Meire's missing salary - a matter of lawfulness
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For me the fact the club doesn't want it out there is sufficient reason to want to know what "it" is. Meire says it's no one's business. If the law says it must be disclosed then clearly she is mistaken. If the club is acting unlawfully to spare her blushes then the purpose is to embarrass her - and it would speak to the way the whole of the last three years have been a vanity project for her, in my view, while the club has crumbled.16
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So you embarrass her. What does that actually achieve ?
It's pretty clear he'll sell if and when he wants & I see little merit in this.
It's possibly even counter productive, because some fans will view it as being vindictive.2 -
A bit like her behaviour over the player of the year, then? Damn right she should be called to account because she has personally done more damage to the club than any chief exec we have ever had.Covered End said:So you embarrass her. What does that actually achieve ?
It's pretty clear he'll sell if and when he wants & I see little merit in this.
It's possibly even counter productive, because some fans will view it as being vindictive.25 -
Carry on then. But as I say, you may just be building support for Meire.Airman Brown said:
A bit like her behaviour over the player of the year, then? Damn right she should be called to account because she has personally done more damage to the club than any chief exec we have ever had.Covered End said:So you embarrass her. What does that actually achieve ?
It's pretty clear he'll sell if and when he wants & I see little merit in this.
It's possibly even counter productive, because some fans will view it as being vindictive.2 -
If people think the law doesn't matter that's their problem.Covered End said:
Carry on then. But as I say, you may just be building support for Meire.Airman Brown said:
A bit like her behaviour over the player of the year, then? Damn right she should be called to account because she has personally done more damage to the club than any chief exec we have ever had.Covered End said:So you embarrass her. What does that actually achieve ?
It's pretty clear he'll sell if and when he wants & I see little merit in this.
It's possibly even counter productive, because some fans will view it as being vindictive.2 -
You'll be campaigning for her to be canonised next, CE.Covered End said:
Carry on then. But as I say, you may just be building support for Meire.Airman Brown said:
A bit like her behaviour over the player of the year, then? Damn right she should be called to account because she has personally done more damage to the club than any chief exec we have ever had.Covered End said:So you embarrass her. What does that actually achieve ?
It's pretty clear he'll sell if and when he wants & I see little merit in this.
It's possibly even counter productive, because some fans will view it as being vindictive.
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I don't support Meire in any way. I just feel if AB is coming across as vindictive, it may prove counter productive to his cause.Fanny Fanackapan said:
You'll be campaigning for her to be canonised next, CE.Covered End said:
Carry on then. But as I say, you may just be building support for Meire.Airman Brown said:
A bit like her behaviour over the player of the year, then? Damn right she should be called to account because she has personally done more damage to the club than any chief exec we have ever had.Covered End said:So you embarrass her. What does that actually achieve ?
It's pretty clear he'll sell if and when he wants & I see little merit in this.
It's possibly even counter productive, because some fans will view it as being vindictive.
In the same way that the visit to Meire's parents strongly divided opinion. (obviously nothing to do with AB).0 -
FRS 102 is somewhat ambiguous....
https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/business/financial-reporting/frs-102-creates-element-of-confusion-around-related-party-disclosures
In summary it seems to be down to professional judgement although nobody is absolutely sure
EDIT: This explains it better. The first link doesn't seem to be available in its entirety.
http://www.aatcomment.org.uk/frs-102-directors-transactions-for-small-companies/0 -
Can't see all of that to read, but Charlton don't qualify as a "small company", which the visible bit seems to be about. They don't meet the relevant criteria.LenGlover said:FRS 102 is somewhat ambiguous....
https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/business/financial-reporting/frs-102-creates-element-of-confusion-around-related-party-disclosures
In summary it seems to be down to professional judgement although nobody is absolutely sure0 -
Is Charlton's turnover more than £10.2 m and its balance sheet total more than £5.1m in league 1?Airman Brown said:
Can't see all of that to read, but Charlton don't qualify as a "small company", which the visible bit seems to be about. They don't meet the relevant criteria.LenGlover said:FRS 102 is somewhat ambiguous....
https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/business/financial-reporting/frs-102-creates-element-of-confusion-around-related-party-disclosures
In summary it seems to be down to professional judgement although nobody is absolutely sure
https://www.hwfisher.co.uk/frs-102-and-small-companies/0 -
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The issue may be her being embarrassed by what she gets paid.Henry Irving said:
I would agree but as it is something they want to hide maybe there is something to hide.Covered End said:
This ?Redskin said:Let's say her is salary is made public.
Then what?
I don't care what she gets paid but it's clearly an issue for her.2 -
We're talking about the 15/16 accounts though.LenGlover said:
Is Charlton's turnover more than £10.2 m and its balance sheet total more than £5.1m in league 1?Airman Brown said:
Can't see all of that to read, but Charlton don't qualify as a "small company", which the visible bit seems to be about. They don't meet the relevant criteria.LenGlover said:FRS 102 is somewhat ambiguous....
https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/business/financial-reporting/frs-102-creates-element-of-confusion-around-related-party-disclosures
In summary it seems to be down to professional judgement although nobody is absolutely sure
https://www.hwfisher.co.uk/frs-102-and-small-companies/
Also - they are not relying on an exemption. They are actually disclosing directors' remuneration as zero and specifying that they don't have to disclose pay as chief executve.0 -
£6.5m and £3.26m. You will know better than me of course but still sounds high for league 1.Airman Brown said:
We're talking about the 15/16 accounts though.LenGlover said:
Is Charlton's turnover more than £10.2 m and its balance sheet total more than £5.1m in league 1?Airman Brown said:
Can't see all of that to read, but Charlton don't qualify as a "small company", which the visible bit seems to be about. They don't meet the relevant criteria.LenGlover said:FRS 102 is somewhat ambiguous....
https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/business/financial-reporting/frs-102-creates-element-of-confusion-around-related-party-disclosures
In summary it seems to be down to professional judgement although nobody is absolutely sure
https://www.hwfisher.co.uk/frs-102-and-small-companies/0 -
I don't give a fuck about her , I want all stress and shit poured on her
She has fucked up mine and my kids Charlton Life so I shit all her problems on her and may they continue till she fucks off outta my life
Disclaimer : 2 days all day drinking at Lords may have led to my foul language but the underlying feeling is I don't give a shit about that back and front cos she doesn't give a toss about us no matter what her fake platitudes are .18 -
Turnover was £12.1m in the accounting period we're discussing.LenGlover said:
£6.5m and £3.26m. You will know better than me of course but still sounds high for league 1.Airman Brown said:
We're talking about the 15/16 accounts though.LenGlover said:
Is Charlton's turnover more than £10.2 m and its balance sheet total more than £5.1m in league 1?Airman Brown said:
Can't see all of that to read, but Charlton don't qualify as a "small company", which the visible bit seems to be about. They don't meet the relevant criteria.LenGlover said:FRS 102 is somewhat ambiguous....
https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/business/financial-reporting/frs-102-creates-element-of-confusion-around-related-party-disclosures
In summary it seems to be down to professional judgement although nobody is absolutely sure
https://www.hwfisher.co.uk/frs-102-and-small-companies/
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THINK I understand where you're coming from, oohaah.....oohaahmortimer said:I don't give a fuck about her , I want all stress and shit poured on her
She has fucked up mine and my kids Charlton Life so I shit all her problems on her and may they continue till she fucks off outta my life
Disclaimer : 2 days all day drinking at Lords may have led to my foul language but the underlying feeling is I don't give a shit about that back and front cos she doesn't give a toss about us no matter what her fake platitudes are .3 -
I agree, I don't care about her either. But the middle ground support, might start drifting toward her.oohaahmortimer said:I don't give a fuck about her , I want all stress and shit poured on her
She has fucked up mine and my kids Charlton Life so I shit all her problems on her and may they continue till she fucks off outta my life
Disclaimer : 2 days all day drinking at Lords may have led to my foul language but the underlying feeling is I don't give a shit about that back and front cos she doesn't give a toss about us no matter what her fake platitudes are .
(A bit like the recent election).1 -
Could she be paid as a consultant?0
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Sober 0%, slightly pissed 0%, pissed 25%, lagging 75%oohaahmortimer said:I don't give a fuck about her , I want all stress and shit poured on her
She has fucked up mine and my kids Charlton Life so I shit all her problems on her and may they continue till she fucks off outta my life
Disclaimer : 2 days all day drinking at Lords may have led to my foul language but the underlying feeling is I don't give a shit about that back and front cos she doesn't give a toss about us no matter what her fake platitudes are .27 -
Very good @eaststandmikeeaststandmike said:
Sober 0%, slightly pissed 0%, pissed 25%, lagging 75%oohaahmortimer said:I don't give a fuck about her , I want all stress and shit poured on her
She has fucked up mine and my kids Charlton Life so I shit all her problems on her and may they continue till she fucks off outta my life
Disclaimer : 2 days all day drinking at Lords may have led to my foul language but the underlying feeling is I don't give a shit about that back and front cos she doesn't give a toss about us no matter what her fake platitudes are .0 -
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It doesn't make any difference. If she is paid to be chief executive by Charlton Athletic Football Co, as both she and Joyes have confirmed, all the evidence and professional advice I've been given says her salary has to be declared as directors' remuneration, just like her predecessors'.The Red Robin said:Could she be paid as a consultant?
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but she won't be embarrassed by it.ElfsborgAddick said:
The issue may be her being embarrassed by what she gets paid.Henry Irving said:
I would agree but as it is something they want to hide maybe there is something to hide.Covered End said:
This ?Redskin said:Let's say her is salary is made public.
Then what?
I don't care what she gets paid but it's clearly an issue for her.
She has been placed in a job by a family friend who will probably never sack or replace her.
Everyone in football who has taken an interest knows she is not up to the job.
Embarrassed. No chance.4 -
Disagree there, too much water under the bridge.Covered End said:
I agree, I don't care about her either. But the middle ground support, might start drifting toward her.oohaahmortimer said:I don't give a fuck about her , I want all stress and shit poured on her
She has fucked up mine and my kids Charlton Life so I shit all her problems on her and may they continue till she fucks off outta my life
Disclaimer : 2 days all day drinking at Lords may have led to my foul language but the underlying feeling is I don't give a shit about that back and front cos she doesn't give a toss about us no matter what her fake platitudes are .
(A bit like the recent election).3 -
Fair comment.Baldybonce said:
but she won't be embarrassed by it.ElfsborgAddick said:
The issue may be her being embarrassed by what she gets paid.Henry Irving said:
I would agree but as it is something they want to hide maybe there is something to hide.Covered End said:
This ?Redskin said:Let's say her is salary is made public.
Then what?
I don't care what she gets paid but it's clearly an issue for her.
She has been placed in a job by a family friend who will probably never sack or replace her.
Everyone in football who has taken an interest knows she is not up to the job.
Embarrassed. No chance.0 -
I would think the reason the club wish to conceal her salary is because it is a lot more than the going rate for the job.6
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The whole place stinks.Baldybonce said:I would think the reason the club wish to conceal her salary is because it is a lot more than the going rate for the job.
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well for me I'd be happy that she'd be well pissed off. They have gone to great lengths to not disclose it so if it was then disclosed she would not be happy. It may seem petty but I'd see it as a minor victory in the war against the regime. Anything that annoys them is great in my opinion.Covered End said:
This ?Redskin said:Let's say her is salary is made public.
Then what?20 -
Which way should the cannon be pointing when we put her in it?Fanny Fanackapan said:
You'll be campaigning for her to be canonised next, CE.Covered End said:
Carry on then. But as I say, you may just be building support for Meire.Airman Brown said:
A bit like her behaviour over the player of the year, then? Damn right she should be called to account because she has personally done more damage to the club than any chief exec we have ever had.Covered End said:So you embarrass her. What does that actually achieve ?
It's pretty clear he'll sell if and when he wants & I see little merit in this.
It's possibly even counter productive, because some fans will view it as being vindictive.9 -
The suspicion is that on top of her stunning incompetence, she is being vastly overpaid in relation to the market and previous incumbents to do it. None of the long line of former CEO's would have survived half the calamities she has. The reason it's being withheld is to avoid embarrassment and is yet another example of their sheer arrogance. This is the woman who when asked how she was still in post managed to burble that the mere fact she was still in post showed she hadn't deserved the sack. The fact that she is so vastly overpaid is another reason why she clings so desperately to her position in the face of overwhelming evidence that she should stand down or be removed from post.8
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Towards Belgium?guinnessaddick said:
Which way should the cannon be pointing when we put her in it?Fanny Fanackapan said:
You'll be campaigning for her to be canonised next, CE.Covered End said:
Carry on then. But as I say, you may just be building support for Meire.Airman Brown said:
A bit like her behaviour over the player of the year, then? Damn right she should be called to account because she has personally done more damage to the club than any chief exec we have ever had.Covered End said:So you embarrass her. What does that actually achieve ?
It's pretty clear he'll sell if and when he wants & I see little merit in this.
It's possibly even counter productive, because some fans will view it as being vindictive.6
