The Jimmy Seed Stand - Roland's Legacy?

Sheepie1985

So I kinda feel this is a subject that just can't be ignored anymore. KM's came out in saying the stand's unsafe, there's talk of asbestos in the roof. It's a known fact Tony Keohane has been speaking to architects involved with a stand design involving flats and Roland's already done this before. Thoughts? Don't get me wrong I think we can all agree the stand needs work but at the risk of Roland having a firm grip around the Valley with property too?

Addickted

The Jimmy Seed condominiums.

newyorkaddick

It's hardly prime real estate sandwiched between a football stadium and council tower block.

Addickted

The Jimmy Seed stand is not unsafe.

The roof of the stand is corrugated asbestos cement sheeting. The asbestos content is approximately 5% and contains chrysotile. In an undamaged state (i.e. It's left alone), it is perfectly safe and offers no health risk - unlike the asbestos type and content in the main stand at Selhurst Park.

Keohane went to Orient with an Architect some time ago. I believe he was looking at options, but in itself doesn't mean a lot. To develop any form of housing/flats there would not deliver sufficient returns to make it worthwhile.

Planning permission would also offer significant hurdles for them not to bother.

What work does the stand require? It provides ideal operating accommodation for up to 3,200 or so away fans for an hour every fortnight with easy access and controllable egress.

C_A_F_C

Will they count the residents in the attendance?

charltonkeston

newyorkaddick said:

It's hardly prime real estate sandwiched between a football stadium and council tower block.

Maybe not prime but the yellow toothed git would do it for a fiver profit.

Chizz

Addickted said:

The Jimmy Seed condominiums.

Those flats would never sell at the Valley. Some of the windows face the pitch.

Fiiish

Would you live in a block if flats run by the same regime as our stadium?

- building manager changes every month
- residents referred to as customers
- boiler system present but not connected to boiler
- crap sofa in the communal area
- CEO of holding company actually a failed lawyer with no experience of running a residential complex
- advertising for flats involves couple dogging in car park
- complainants referred to as vinegar pissers
- Facebook group set up by friends of CEO to slander residents and to come over for weekly sausage rolls paid for by resident in exclusive Sycophants lounge.

newyorkaddick

Any word on the Tenant of the Year dinner?

Off_it

Its not prime real estate by any means. But if you already own the land then anything you can sell or develop on it is just extra cash in the bank.

cafc999

If you was going to buy an apartment in the Charlton area, would you choose a place attached to a football ground or a place by the O2?

mogodon

Chizz said:

Addickted said:

The Jimmy Seed condominiums.

Those flats would never sell at the Valley. Some of the windows face the pitch.

Katrien might buy one as it would allow her an extra few minutes in bed before her ludicrously early 12.30pm start to the working day.

kentred2

If he sells the club for say £25m leaving a £25m loss as a loan to the new owners he possibly covers that by savings on corporation tax somewhere within his group. That way he ends up with the Valley to develop as flats, hotel etc with a rented football pitch, for nothing if loans after lookman etc £50m

Probably that's full of holes but who knows!

killerandflash

Addickted said:

The Jimmy Seed condominiums.

Would our flats come with their own fan sofa facing the pitch...

kentred2

cafc999 said:

If you was going to buy an apartment in the Charlton area, would you choose a place attached to a football ground or a place by the O2?

£700000 at o2 or £350000 at Valley better question?

soapy_jones

Tourettes induced comment sorry...

Cnuts!

Hovi's Biscuit

Fiiish said:

Would you live in a block if flats run by the same regime as our stadium?

- building manager changes every month
- residents referred to as customers
- boiler system present but not connected to boiler
- crap sofa in the communal area
- CEO of holding company actually a failed lawyer with no experience of running a residential complex
- advertising for flats involves couple dogging in car park
- complainants referred to as vinegar pissers
- Facebook group set up by friends of CEO to slander residents and to come over for weekly sausage rolls paid for by resident in exclusive Sycophants lounge.

£7.50 meal deal though

Sage

Fiiish said:

Would you live in a block if flats run by the same regime as our stadium?

- building manager changes every month
- residents referred to as customers
- boiler system present but not connected to boiler
- crap sofa in the communal area
- CEO of holding company actually a failed lawyer with no experience of running a residential complex
- advertising for flats involves couple dogging in car park
- complainants referred to as vinegar pissers
- Facebook group set up by friends of CEO to slander residents and to come over for weekly sausage rolls paid for by resident in exclusive Sycophants lounge.

Brilliant!

se9addick

Hovi's Biscuit said:

Fiiish said:

Would you live in a block if flats run by the same regime as our stadium?

- building manager changes every month
- residents referred to as customers
- boiler system present but not connected to boiler
- crap sofa in the communal area
- CEO of holding company actually a failed lawyer with no experience of running a residential complex
- advertising for flats involves couple dogging in car park
- complainants referred to as vinegar pissers
- Facebook group set up by friends of CEO to slander residents and to come over for weekly sausage rolls paid for by resident in exclusive Sycophants lounge.

£7.50 meal deal though

You'd starve to death on the portions though !

Athletico Charlton

After the Q&A with KM yesterday I am now firmly of the opinion that the chances of RD developing flats at The Valley are far higher than him not.

To take OhhAhhs stance I would say 65% flats built, 25% not built, 10% they dig a trench but never get round to doing anything more.

ElfsborgAddick

Chizz said:

Addickted said:

The Jimmy Seed condominiums.

Those flats would never sell at the Valley. Some of the windows face the pitch.

I'd buy one of the flats and offer out the room as a corporate package on a matchday.

newyorkaddick

I am indifferent about this potential development but there is a case for reducing The Valley's capacity to improve the atmosphere and (eventually) create excess demand for tickets.

At 27k our capacity is larger than seven current top flight clubs, and moreover if we got back there someday the TV money completely overwhelms the opportunity cost of selling a few thousand more tickets. In the meantime say 20k is perfectly adequate.

Leeds_Addick

Athletico Charlton said:

After the Q&A with KM yesterday I am now firmly of the opinion that the chances of RD developing flats at The Valley are far higher than him not.

To take OhhAhhs stance I would say 65% flats built, 25% not built, 10% they dig a trench but never get round to doing anything more.

They'll move a bit of soil and make a video about it every 2 days until they move the next bit of soil.

seth plum

A good way to improve the atmosphere is something I have suggested before, make the North Lower a standing area.

newyorkaddick

seth plum said:

A good way to improve the atmosphere is something I have suggested before, make the North Lower a standing area.

Agreed - it is not suited for seating as the rake is too shallow and legroom almost nonexistent.

North Lower Neil

C_A_F_C said:

Will they count the residents in the attendance?

If you were a resident but boycotting, would you close the curtains?

redman

newyorkaddick said:

I am indifferent about this potential development but there is a case for reducing The Valley's capacity to improve the atmosphere and (eventually) create excess demand for tickets.

At 27k our capacity is larger than seven current top flight clubs, and moreover if we got back there someday the TV money completely overwhelms the opportunity cost of selling a few thousand more tickets. In the meantime say 20k is perfectly adequate.

This is the exact opposite of current top flight clubs who are looking at ways of increasing capacity. Short term opportunistic view

T_C_E

ElfsborgAddick said:

Chizz said:

Addickted said:

The Jimmy Seed condominiums.

Those flats would never sell at the Valley. Some of the windows face the pitch.

I'd buy one of the flats and offer out the room as a corporate package on a matchday.

Can I book it v Dartford 19/20 season please.

newyorkaddick

redman said:

newyorkaddick said:

I am indifferent about this potential development but there is a case for reducing The Valley's capacity to improve the atmosphere and (eventually) create excess demand for tickets.

At 27k our capacity is larger than seven current top flight clubs, and moreover if we got back there someday the TV money completely overwhelms the opportunity cost of selling a few thousand more tickets. In the meantime say 20k is perfectly adequate.

This is the exact opposite of current top flight clubs who are looking at ways of increasing capacity. Short term opportunistic view

Something to worry about when we get there which at this rate might not be in our lifetimes.

SoundAsa£

newyorkaddick said:

I am indifferent about this potential development but there is a case for reducing The Valley's capacity to improve the atmosphere and (eventually) create excess demand for tickets.

At 27k our capacity is larger than seven current top flight clubs, and moreover if we got back there someday the TV money completely overwhelms the opportunity cost of selling a few thousand more tickets. In the meantime say 20k is perfectly adequate.

Possibly the worst idea since on a balmy August evening in 1888 in the village of Braunauam am Inn Austria, school teacher Alois Hitler turned to his wife Klara and said......"Fancy an early night luv?"

newyorkaddick

SoundAsa£ said:

newyorkaddick said:

I am indifferent about this potential development but there is a case for reducing The Valley's capacity to improve the atmosphere and (eventually) create excess demand for tickets.

At 27k our capacity is larger than seven current top flight clubs, and moreover if we got back there someday the TV money completely overwhelms the opportunity cost of selling a few thousand more tickets. In the meantime say 20k is perfectly adequate.

Possibly the worst idea since on a balmy August evening in 1888 in the village of Braunauam am Inn Austria, school teacher Alois Hitler turned to his wife Klara and said......"Fancy an early night luv?"

Why?

If we built a new stadium from scratch it wouldn't be 27k capacity.