The first question to be asked is, why has Duchatelet told us this now? He has shown no interest in communicating with fans over four years. I think it may have a lot more to do with spinning Meire’s sudden departure than a desire to share takeover news.
That suggests to me that there is a possibility that whoever Duchatelet is negotiating with either won’t negotiate with Meire or that they have lost confidence in her.
I know nothing, don't know anyone who is ITK, but reading replies from a few that maybe I would say that Varney is one of those in the bidding & probably the one that RD would least like to sell to. I'm also hoping that the end of the year coinciding with the Belgian's end of tax year will mean a sale being concluded very soon.
If this was announced on 1st December I could take that at face value but instead it's been announced on the 28th, there's only 3 more days until the end of the month. Why not announce this earlier in the month when the term 'end of the month' would be more meaningful instead of 'gone by the weekend' which is what could have also been used.
For me this is saying a takeover is either already agreed or it's to send a public message to another interested party who may have walked away after DD that a previous stumbling block has now been removed in hope of getting them back to the table.
If this was announced on 1st December I could take that at face value but instead it's been announced on the 28th, there's only 3 more days until the end of the month. Why not announce this earlier in the month when the term 'end of the month' would be more meaningful instead of 'gone by the weekend' which is what could have also been used.
For me this is saying a takeover is either already agreed or it's to send a public message to another interested party who may have walked away after DD that a previous stumbling block has now been removed in hope of getting them back to the table.
I know, three days to get 10,000 people to sign a leaving card and as for the collection, who is going to start that fucker?
said many times do NOT apply logic to RD and his reign at CAFC its always been an egotistical experiment for him and could possibly still end with him hanging on to something of CAFC .to smooth his ego rather than ever except his experiment being the horrific failure that is is/was.
i always knew we would one day dance on the graves of Rd and his poodles and im geting the music ready ----can u hear it burger boy ?
ps look up metaphor officer re "dancing on the graves"
The first question to be asked is, why has Duchatelet told us this now? He has shown no interest in communicating with fans over four years. I think it may have a lot more to do with spinning Meire’s sudden departure than a desire to share takeover news.
You don't say "a takeover is now likely to take place" as RD is reported to have said by Jim White if that is not the case and the price has been agreed. Once you say that as a seller your chance of increasing the sales price has gone - and although RD is daft I don't think he is that daft when it comes to his own money.
I’m not in the know, I don’t know anyone who is, but I do part own a company with a turnover the same as CAFC, I wonder if the situation is similar to below.
Roland has accepted an offer from his least preferred purchaser, there are two others parties circulating but there offer are not so good / far advanced, this purchaser won’t deal with the incumbent CEO for some reason but probably past experience. Whilst Roland is happy to take the money he want to maximise his return, so as a last resort he lets it be known that the CEO has left and a firm offer is on the table ie it’s a hurry up for them to up their offer to a more acceptable offer, Then of course he wouldn’t need to accept the first offer. If the accepted offer just happens to be the one the fans would favour then this interview could just be his way of trying to stuff the customers. Just my reading of the situation, most probable a total load of rubbish, but I seen this sort of vengeance play out in the past, oh and the end of the financial year in Belgium shouldn’t be discounted as a very important date, go past this date and a key factor in his selling might just have disappeared.
Some of this depends on how much autonomy Meire actually had. Perhaps Duchatelet has finally realised after another year of failure that KM is not the best person to protect his ever decreasing asset.
Let’s face it if you were willing to invest millions would you really keep on someone else’s man, particularly when the track record of their tenure is so abysmal?
Meire probably knows this too and with the club up for sale (and so I was told face to face by a senior source, it would be sold - whatever that means) she’s not likely to hang about. Rather if it were you, you would want to start looking elsewhere ASAP or take a break and hope things blow over.
From Roleys perspective he’s looking for an exit so will get a pro to help or makedo using RM. Or if he has to hire some proven talent, he doesn’t want a puppet now, he want even less involvement.
Does it mean we’re closer to a sale? Maybe, is it better for CAFC? Who knows.
The first question to be asked is, why has Duchatelet told us this now? He has shown no interest in communicating with fans over four years. I think it may have a lot more to do with spinning Meire’s sudden departure than a desire to share takeover news.
You don't say "a takeover is now likely to take place" as RD is reported to have said by Jim White if that is not the case and the price has been agreed. Once you say that as a seller your chance of increasing the sales price has gone - and although RD is daft I don't think he is that daft when it comes to his own money.
He's been pretty daft with his money over the last four years. But leaving that to one side, it's pretty odd (or just plain amateurish) that the club has produced what will be an agreed statement and RD has then texted a journalist with a version that I would say is significantly different.
There's no claim made in either the club statement or RD's text that that Meire has quit because of a takeover, simply that she's been allowed to go [without serving her notice] and is not being replaced because of the likelihood of one.
I’ll be glad if/when this is all over so the digging out of fellow fans for one up manship is over and we can concentrate on what matters the 11 on the pitch
Good luck with that, it was happening long before Roland took over.
Correct me if I am wrong, @Airman Brown (or anyone else who has looked at this), but did we not conclude that she is paid by Staprix (since we don't find her salary n the CAFC accounts)?
If that's true, then she would only stay on after a sale if the buyer thought she was so brilliant that they were ready to "transfer" her from Staprix. Can anyone imagine a buyer thinking she would be worth that?
But of course in Roland's parallel universe, ordinary mortals cannot see the genius he identifies, so we might see this as him being "loyal" to her by spinning it so that she doesn't lose career face in Belgium, which we have learnt is part of the culture there. I reckon she will in fact smoothly transition to another RD business, but he would not want to make that obviousto us vinegar -pissers. He wouldn't want to admit that she was always an employee of Staprix, would he?
Continued involvement of Duchatelet in ownership, I can see killing the club & preventing future success. Duchatelet needs to go & many Charlton supporters will seriously consider not returning if he retains interest in any form. Any potential owners, who are considering terms need to know that goodwill will be in short supply, if Duchatelet is still involved.
I know some might say it depends on the terms. I can’t see that noxious skinflint has any interest in the club’s well being that would result in anything but preventing success at best & killing the club at worst.
Duchatelet should know that Charlton supporters won’t rest until he has gone completely & that it really is not worth the adverse impact on image at home.
I really hope the Belgium 20 feeling that the best option bidder will prevail happens for future well being & success.
The initial elation of KM leaving has just subsided as I realise all those hard fought transfer negotiations she has been working on for months in readiness for the Jan transfer window will fall by the way side now.
Correct me if I am wrong, @Airman Brown (or anyone else who has looked at this), but did we not conclude that she is paid by Staprix (since we don't find her salary n the CAFC accounts)?
If that's true, then she would only stay on after a sale if the buyer thought she was so brilliant that they were ready to "transfer" her from Staprix. Can anyone imagine a buyer thinking she would be worth that?
But of course in Roland's parallel universe, ordinary mortals cannot see the genius he identifies, so we might see this as him being "loyal" to her by spinning it so that she doesn't lose career face in Belgium, which we have learnt is part of the culture there. I reckon she will in fact smoothly transition to another RD business, but he would not want to make that obviousto us vinegar -pissers. He wouldn't want to admit that she was always an employee of Staprix, would he?
No, she said - and Joyes confirmed in writing - that she is employed and paid by CAFC Limited. We (including multiple accountants) simply believe that his explanation of why her salary paid by CAFC does not have to be declared in the accounts is nonsense.
In fact he says her salary is included in the total for key staff in the Baton accounts but claims it is exempt from disclosure as directors’ pay because she is paid as chief executive not as a director - even though the relevant statutory instrument explicitly sets out that payment to a director for any position of control must be declared as directors’ remuneration.
The way I read things I’d guess a sale is as near as dammit done and dusted hence KM departs. There is no logic to her walking away now when she could probably have got a pay off once the transfer of ownership goes through.
The comments about there being a preferred bidder and a not so preferred bidder why does everyone assume this is that Roland does not want to sell to them. If Richard Murray had a say in it and if Peter Varney is involved that would explain why they are not a preferred bidder
All things considered I would suspect that things will move very quickly from here. The injuries and slip in the form may have forced a new purchaserd hand to want to get things done quicker so as to avoid a completely wasted season
The way I read things I’d guess a sale is as near as dammit done and dusted hence KM departs. There is no logic to her walking away now when she could probably have got a pay off once the transfer of ownership goes through.
The comments about there being a preferred bidder and a not so preferred bidder why does everyone assume this is that Roland does not want to sell to them. If Richard Murray had a say in it and if Peter Varney is involved that would explain why they are not a preferred bidder
All things considered I would suspect that things will move very quickly from here. The injuries and slip in the form may have forced a new purchaserd hand to want to get things done quicker so as to avoid a completely wasted season
Haha like that, let’s play shite to quicken a takeover. Cunning
The way I read things I’d guess a sale is as near as dammit done and dusted hence KM departs. There is no logic to her walking away now when she could probably have got a pay off once the transfer of ownership goes through.
The comments about there being a preferred bidder and a not so preferred bidder why does everyone assume this is that Roland does not want to sell to them. If Richard Murray had a say in it and if Peter Varney is involved that would explain why they are not a preferred bidder
All things considered I would suspect that things will move very quickly from here. The injuries and slip in the form may have forced a new purchaserd hand to want to get things done quicker so as to avoid a completely wasted season
To be fair, with how we played first half against Southend, whos to say Karl didn't know about this already and pretty much told them to take it easy first half with the intent to "try" and save it second half
The whole 7am training could be a smart cover up
Maybe Karl knows what he is doing in time for January, eg takeover and funds
Reckon the deal is all but done and we will receive confirmation within the next 48 hours. Would be a brilliant start to the New Year but only if RD is completely out of the picture.
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He already told us that in his news paper interview
The only new info is that she is going at the end of the month
If this was announced on 1st December I could take that at face value but instead it's been announced on the 28th, there's only 3 more days until the end of the month. Why not announce this earlier in the month when the term 'end of the month' would be more meaningful instead of 'gone by the weekend' which is what could have also been used.
For me this is saying a takeover is either already agreed or it's to send a public message to another interested party who may have walked away after DD that a previous stumbling block has now been removed in hope of getting them back to the table.
i always knew we would one day dance on the graves of Rd and his poodles and im geting the music ready ----can u hear it burger boy ?
ps look up metaphor officer re "dancing on the graves"
Roland has accepted an offer from his least preferred purchaser, there are two others parties circulating but there offer are not so good / far advanced, this purchaser won’t deal with the incumbent CEO for some reason but probably past experience. Whilst Roland is happy to take the money he want to maximise his return, so as a last resort he lets it be known that the CEO has left and a firm offer is on the table ie it’s a hurry up for them to up their offer to a more acceptable offer, Then of course he wouldn’t need to accept the first offer. If the accepted offer just happens to be the one the fans would favour then this interview could just be his way of trying to stuff the customers. Just my reading of the situation, most probable a total load of rubbish, but I seen this sort of vengeance play out in the past, oh and the end of the financial year in Belgium shouldn’t be discounted as a very important date, go past this date and a key factor in his selling might just have disappeared.
Meire probably knows this too and with the club up for sale (and so I was told face to face by a senior source, it would be sold - whatever that means) she’s not likely to hang about. Rather if it were you, you would want to start looking elsewhere ASAP or take a break and hope things blow over.
From Roleys perspective he’s looking for an exit so will get a pro to help or makedo using RM. Or if he has to hire some proven talent, he doesn’t want a puppet now, he want even less involvement.
Does it mean we’re closer to a sale? Maybe, is it better for CAFC? Who knows.
There's no claim made in either the club statement or RD's text that that Meire has quit because of a takeover, simply that she's been allowed to go [without serving her notice] and is not being replaced because of the likelihood of one.
If that's true, then she would only stay on after a sale if the buyer thought she was so brilliant that they were ready to "transfer" her from Staprix. Can anyone imagine a buyer thinking she would be worth that?
But of course in Roland's parallel universe, ordinary mortals cannot see the genius he identifies, so we might see this as him being "loyal" to her by spinning it so that she doesn't lose career face in Belgium, which we have learnt is part of the culture there. I reckon she will in fact smoothly transition to another RD business, but he would not want to make that obviousto us vinegar -pissers. He wouldn't want to admit that she was always an employee of Staprix, would he?
I know some might say it depends on the terms. I can’t see that noxious skinflint has any interest in the club’s well being that would result in anything but preventing success at best & killing the club at worst.
Duchatelet should know that Charlton supporters won’t rest until he has gone completely & that it really is not worth the adverse impact on image at home.
I really hope the Belgium 20 feeling that the best option bidder will prevail happens for future well being & success.
Davo told me this afternoon and I came over a bit unnecessary.
If I wasn't going to work tomorrow I'd have drunk a lot of vinegar tonight.
In fact he says her salary is included in the total for key staff in the Baton accounts but claims it is exempt from disclosure as directors’ pay because she is paid as chief executive not as a director - even though the relevant statutory instrument explicitly sets out that payment to a director for any position of control must be declared as directors’ remuneration.
The comments about there being a preferred bidder and a not so preferred bidder why does everyone assume this is that Roland does not want to sell to them. If Richard Murray had a say in it and if Peter Varney is involved that would explain why they are not a preferred bidder
All things considered I would suspect that things will move very quickly from here. The injuries and slip in the form may have forced a new purchaserd hand to want to get things done quicker so as to avoid a completely wasted season
Haha like that, let’s play shite to quicken a takeover. Cunning