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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • IanJRO said:
    Whilst there are a hell of a lot of unknowns at this point one thing has just dawned on me. It likely means we will not be sitting through any more League One football*. That in itself is something to celebrate.  Anything else is a bonus! 

    *subject to EFL approval! 
    The one downside to this though is no more dipping into League One will make it difficult to tick off some grounds needed to complete the 92.

    Going to have to rely on some League Cup and FA Cup draws to get some of these grounds done, teams like Salford City for example.
  • edited December 2019
    ESI hoping that the interviews for the EFL's owners’ and directors’ test can be completed by the end of this week.

    Here's hoping ESI's well experienced in the sports industry, corporate lawyer, Mike Blood, a former semi pro rugby player with recognised professional qualifications in this country (unlike our former CEO), can get it over the line. 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
  • Interviews completed. Doesn't say the whole thing completed.
  • ESI hoping that the interviews for the EFL's owners’ and directors’ test can be completed by the end of this week.

    I heard two weeks ;-)
  • I don’t think we should make fun of the ozzies (difficult for a kiwi to say). They understood the fans and would have connected better with them than RD. Maybe never quite pulled the money together. They lost out,  we all move on. 
    I can't help thinking though that their presence for the last 2 years and seeming willingness to pay what Roland wanted has dragged out the takeover process for far longer than it should have. Without them, would Roland have cut his price a year ago?
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  • ESI hoping that the interviews for the EFL's owners’ and directors’ test can be completed by the end of this week.

    I heard two weeks ;-)
    They sound important...
  • T'was the night before the transfer window opens.

    https://youtu.be/15tks3ovprw
  • So this article states that our group are the same group that tried to buy Newcastle? 
  • It’s hard not to get your Sheikhs mixed up isn’t it.
  • From reading around as much as I can I now conclude that Premier League football is the aim for our new owners. The sooner that’s achieved the more likely they can think about a return on their investment. 

    We must survive this season and then I think next season could be very interesting.
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  • The above raises an important question now Roland’s gone... what is our position on tango man?
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    razil said:
    Ultimatum said:
    Let’s throw 10 mil here, 15 mil there , 2 mil here etc etc... this is real money people 😂. There’s no way these new owners, regardless how rich they are will throw money away. They’re business men who got rich by being clever not throwing it around like it’s nothing. 

    Secondly, how much can we realistically spend with FFP rules? 
    That depends on why you buy a football club. If it’s to make money then you’ve got your work cut out. If it’s to have like a train set or for prestigious reasons so you can invite your rich mates then depending on just how rich you are you might well not mind throwing the cash around.
    It's generally believed that the big Middle East investments (in Citeh and PSG) as well as the desperate Qatar bid to get the World Cup are examples of political 'soft power' building. To put it crudely " we cannot be such bad guys that your press say we are, we are footie fans like you". I'm having a bit of trouble believing that Abu Dhabi reckons the world will look more favourably on it because it invested in Charlton Athletic, though. Unfortunately...

    Just when I'd decided to give CL a break for a bit this happens..

    Given money would be no object why buy a club like ours and not a bigger higher profile club? There must be some value to be had, perhaps Bowyer's clear abilities and thus the touching distance to the Prem. This for me was one of Roland's biggest mistakes contract wise? Then again the jammy wotsit may well have got out of this with no losses other than to his reputation, in what has to be one of the greatest escapes in football ownership - due to the random luck of finding our prodigal son and him accidentally becoming manager. Which makes me think they are in it for the investment at least somewhere down the line, or at the very least that they spend their money wisely. Then there is our location of course. I've tended to think owning an English Prem club is a fashion accessory, or perhaps a competitive hobby like owning a race horse. It will be interesting to tease these things out through hours of CL chatter and any fan engagement assuming they are forthcoming.

    I'm relieved that RD has gone (EFL permitting) and the club and ground are secure (for now at least) and pleased we are on the face of it about to embark on a far more enjoyable roller coaster than the last 13 or so years, or perhaps ever, and perhaps we've earned it? But its also important, to me anyway, that we retain the special things about our club, like the price of tickets, keeping and developing our historic ground, our academy and its products getting to the first team, connection to the community, the fantastic atmosphere we now have (ironically another of Duchatelet's unintended achievements).

    There is something special about achieving success against the odds, and with club men like Bowyer and Curbs before him. I'm aware I may be in a small minority, but I'm not sure with this kind of wealth behind us if thats what happens, we will ever experience that kind of 'earned' specialness and pride again and in football nowadays perhaps that kind of thing is a rarer and rarer commodity. So we are potentially inevitably at the end of an era in many more ways than one might immediately think. 
    Having said that I'm hoping to enjoy it for what it is, while at the same time arguing to prevent us becoming a 'plastic' club.

    This is a promote worthy post.  We haven't got "our Charlton back".  Although I never really knew what the ment.  We have a very diffrent club to the one we went to bed with on Thursday night, that's for sure. 

    The new owners have already invested more than all our previous owners combined.  Although they could, in theory have left the debt on the books. 

    How easy the whole thing sits with individuals is a very personal thing.  Although throwing money around like it's going out of fashion would be quite a novelty, it wouldn't really be our Charlton, would it? 



    Cafc43v3r said:
    razil said:
    Ultimatum said:
    Let’s throw 10 mil here, 15 mil there , 2 mil here etc etc... this is real money people 😂. There’s no way these new owners, regardless how rich they are will throw money away. They’re business men who got rich by being clever not throwing it around like it’s nothing. 

    Secondly, how much can we realistically spend with FFP rules? 
    That depends on why you buy a football club. If it’s to make money then you’ve got your work cut out. If it’s to have like a train set or for prestigious reasons so you can invite your rich mates then depending on just how rich you are you might well not mind throwing the cash around.
    It's generally believed that the big Middle East investments (in Citeh and PSG) as well as the desperate Qatar bid to get the World Cup are examples of political 'soft power' building. To put it crudely " we cannot be such bad guys that your press say we are, we are footie fans like you". I'm having a bit of trouble believing that Abu Dhabi reckons the world will look more favourably on it because it invested in Charlton Athletic, though. Unfortunately...

    Just when I'd decided to give CL a break for a bit this happens..

    Given money would be no object why buy a club like ours and not a bigger higher profile club? There must be some value to be had, perhaps Bowyer's clear abilities and thus the touching distance to the Prem. This for me was one of Roland's biggest mistakes contract wise? Then again the jammy wotsit may well have got out of this with no losses other than to his reputation, in what has to be one of the greatest escapes in football ownership - due to the random luck of finding our prodigal son and him accidentally becoming manager. Which makes me think they are in it for the investment at least somewhere down the line, or at the very least that they spend their money wisely. Then there is our location of course. I've tended to think owning an English Prem club is a fashion accessory, or perhaps a competitive hobby like owning a race horse. It will be interesting to tease these things out through hours of CL chatter and any fan engagement assuming they are forthcoming.

    I'm relieved that RD has gone (EFL permitting) and the club and ground are secure (for now at least) and pleased we are on the face of it about to embark on a far more enjoyable roller coaster than the last 13 or so years, or perhaps ever, and perhaps we've earned it? But its also important, to me anyway, that we retain the special things about our club, like the price of tickets, keeping and developing our historic ground, our academy and its products getting to the first team, connection to the community, the fantastic atmosphere we now have (ironically another of Duchatelet's unintended achievements).

    There is something special about achieving success against the odds, and with club men like Bowyer and Curbs before him. I'm aware I may be in a small minority, but I'm not sure with this kind of wealth behind us if thats what happens, we will ever experience that kind of 'earned' specialness and pride again and in football nowadays perhaps that kind of thing is a rarer and rarer commodity. So we are potentially inevitably at the end of an era in many more ways than one might immediately think. 
    Having said that I'm hoping to enjoy it for what it is, while at the same time arguing to prevent us becoming a 'plastic' club.

    This is a promote worthy post.  We haven't got "our Charlton back".  Although I never really knew what the ment.  We have a very diffrent club to the one we went to bed with on Thursday night, that's for sure. 

    The new owners have already invested more than all our previous owners combined.  Although they could, in theory have left the debt on the books. 

    How easy the whole thing sits with individuals is a very personal thing.  Although throwing money around like it's going out of fashion would be quite a novelty, it wouldn't really be our Charlton, would it? 



    Maybe not but suppose they spend wisely & we get promoted to the Premier, to make sure (as much as you can) that we stay there I would hope they spend like its going out of fashion on proven Premiership players. What is the point of reaching the prem just to get relegated because we still hanker over the "old Charlton" ?
  • bobmunro said:
    The above raises an important question now Roland’s gone... what is our position on tango man?
    The same as it always has been. On occasion he says something that I agree with, in the same way that a stopped watch is right twice a day.

    That aside he is, and always will be, a stripey, two watch, tango tosser.
    Bob for PM
  • You're not that keen on him then Bob, I mean don't bottle it up say what you really think of him 😉
  • I personally would like to thank Roland for keeping the tin-pot Aussies at bay, until such time as seriously minted buyers were available.
    I wouldn't thank him for anything. I WILL thank the Aussies for being so incompetent  unable to get the deal over the line that enabled ESI to step in with a few extra quid :smiley:
  • RedChaser said:
    You're not that keen on him then Bob, I mean don't bottle it up say what you really think of him 😉
    If I said what I really think of him, AFKA would quite rightly ban me.
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