Well that's some grim news to wake up, thanks for sharing what you can Prague, I just hope RD isn't hoping to complete a deal that's totally unrealistic and that's why he's pissing off other buyers
What a nightmare
I think what you hope RD isn't doing is pretty much the situation sadly.
The thing is, when it is out there that the club is for sale, a reasonable person may think that a fair price can ultimately be agreed on through negotiation. It is when you want to buy from somebody who doesn't want to sell that you might have to pay silly money. Roland wants them to pay silly money because he has convinced himself the club is worth it. He has convinced himself because he is not right in the head.
He convinced himself that his network idea would work, that Meire was good at her job, That Driesen knows more about players than people much more experienced and qualified. You have to see the simplicity of his stupidity. Driesen was the fat bloke from Moneyball to Duchatelet. We all make mistakes, but his ones, he walks into like walking into a brick wall. And he has a character fault that means he can never accept his mistake. It is probably why if you want to work for him in a support capacity, the most important thing is a brown tongue.
He can afford to sell the club and people are willing to pay £30m, which I think is on the high side but we know they are willing to pay it, so he should sell for £30m and forget about his mistakes. By not doing so, he is only going to lose more money and we have had some glimpses of protests by one or two people which can really hurt his interests. He hasn't felt the full force of that yet, but he could do. if he was sane, he would get out now.
If he took £30m he can claim he left us in the same division as he found us and he got more money for us than he paid! Ok, that is forgetting money lost along the way, but he can walk away with a face saving position.
i think we may get an insight into the Ego`s thinking if Prague is allowed to tell us next week. I fear the worst.
My feeling it will related to one (or more) of the below:
* RD has increased the amount he wants since promotion. * RD wants all HIS "historical debt" paid now. * RD wants to hold onto either The Valley or the training ground (may be both) * RD wants sell on clauses re all existing players or a % of all transfer fees. * RD wants a further payment (all his debt paid) if we get to the Prem.
If i was a prospective buyer it would stop the deal dead in the water if his debt was suddenly thrown into the negotiations,the same if he wanted to keep The Valley etc or if the price was increased after negotiations had begun.
I feel the horrific merry go round that RD and his arse lickers are puting us /our club through goes on and i just don't see how REAL prospective owners can deal with this deluded twonks ego.
What do we do ? no idea. Please lets put the bollox "he is a business man after all" to bed --------- NO not it anyway is he with reguard to CAFC. He has put off REAL bidders and im sure we are now almost untouchable.
Sad times when we should be looking forward to a new season
Had a further message, which I had better leave until Monday to get further verified, because it is meltdown material. I will leave you with this thought though. This is the first time we have a bidder where one of the key players is a proper Charlton fan who thinks and talks like one of us. RD may have dicked off the wrong person this time.
We have to wait until Monday to find out this snippet? Is it broadly along the lines of RD acting in a duplicitous, or at least, inconsistent way towards a buyer and the asking price becoming a moving target, @PragueAddick ?
Er, yes. But I would rather hear it from the horse's mouth before giving any more detail ( assuming, also, that I am allowed to)
Sounds like it could be useful information. Maybe better to not have said anything about it until Monday, when you would have known whether the information could be shared ? 🤔
Well if we lose a few let’s protest (as it stands we are gonna lose a lot and be guaranteed bottom 3 unless there are a few miracle signings) but if we do ok let’s not bother . Sadly the life has been sucked out of most and add that to the lameness of many and the accepting of this Helmet of all Helmets will end up with our club back in league one and weaker than ever . bowyer , Jacko and gallen and us fans are having the piss taken out of us but they’re getting paid for it and we are paying for the piss to be taken.
Shameful times wtf do we do , head in the sand can’t be right but seems to be the way we are all heading
Head in the sand is what STVV fans did. They were worn down by him.
Dropped Mr Tatters off at Ebbsfleet this morning for the Somme trip. Reminded me of visits to Belgium. The same old feelings were stirred up. We need to get back out there and annoy the fuck out of him.
Had a further message, which I had better leave until Monday to get further verified, because it is meltdown material. I will leave you with this thought though. This is the first time we have a bidder where one of the key players is a proper Charlton fan who thinks and talks like one of us. RD may have dicked off the wrong person this time.
We have to wait until Monday to find out this snippet? Is it broadly along the lines of RD acting in a duplicitous, or at least, inconsistent way towards a buyer and the asking price becoming a moving target, @PragueAddick ?
Er, yes. But I would rather hear it from the horse's mouth before giving any more detail ( assuming, also, that I am allowed to)
Sounds like it could be useful information. Maybe better to not have said anything about it until Monday, when you would have known whether the information could be shared ? 🤔
These most recent updates come via the intermediary's buddy, who is a CL lurker, and on the basis that I will share. It was actually my call to hold back on some of what he has told me, because just to repeat it would set up a hailstorm of questions as well as fury, and i'd rather be in a better position to field the questions than I am now (because I also have those questions!).
Under his ownership we have become the proverbial leper of world football.......in a word.........we are ‘untouchable’. Even Mother ‘fucking’ Theresa wouldn’t take us on!
I’m still hearing the old nutter want to sell before the season starts. God knows how he’ll do that. Historic debts still an issue. It’s not happening. Is it?
Have to agree but I have believed this to be the case for some time.
Oh, I see we're back to playing the "I know something but can't tell you" games again.
Crack on.
Really? It could hardly have been more widely reported that all this started with a Charlton supporter trying to arrange the purchase of the club from Duchatelet.
I was referring to what has since been named “Meltdown Monday”.
If people have info they want to share then share it. If they don’t want to, or can’t, then why mention it in the first place?
Where do we go from here? Back to League 1 I guess, with LB, despite trying his upmost best to keep us in the Championship, relieved of his duties. There will be no mention of a shit budget and no ambition from the twat of an owner......I fear the worse now....sadly.
My thoughts exactly, crap budget, league one squad, defeat after defeat, LB sacked, relegated. I dread to think what the future holds.
His decision not to push to boat out and get Aribo signed up when he could has cost him millions. Note, him and not us! He is thick and mad - there can be no doubt about that and we need to do more to expose the fact. It really doesn't matter to us because he would have kept whatever we got for Aribo. I am sad because it is a poor football move for the lad, but I am not sad Duchatelet has cost himself loads of money. He is a figure of ridicule and fun. It is like listening to the village idiot when he speaks and it may never be repeated anywhere in the world that St Truiden's Village Idiot is probably its richest citizen!
I wonder if a prospective new owner who had spent a sizable amount of dosh on their DD only to find RD has moved the goal post could actually take legal action against RD to recoup their costs ?
I guess it wouldnt help us even if they can as the Rat will only put that cost into "our" debt
Keith Harris and Jon Woods have left Everton's board of directors. I thought I read on here once that Keith Harris was involved with arranging a buyer for the club
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The thing is, when it is out there that the club is for sale, a reasonable person may think that a fair price can ultimately be agreed on through negotiation. It is when you want to buy from somebody who doesn't want to sell that you might have to pay silly money. Roland wants them to pay silly money because he has convinced himself the club is worth it. He has convinced himself because he is not right in the head.
He convinced himself that his network idea would work, that Meire was good at her job, That Driesen knows more about players than people much more experienced and qualified. You have to see the simplicity of his stupidity. Driesen was the fat bloke from Moneyball to Duchatelet. We all make mistakes, but his ones, he walks into like walking into a brick wall. And he has a character fault that means he can never accept his mistake. It is probably why if you want to work for him in a support capacity, the most important thing is a brown tongue.
He can afford to sell the club and people are willing to pay £30m, which I think is on the high side but we know they are willing to pay it, so he should sell for £30m and forget about his mistakes. By not doing so, he is only going to lose more money and we have had some glimpses of protests by one or two people which can really hurt his interests. He hasn't felt the full force of that yet, but he could do. if he was sane, he would get out now.
If he took £30m he can claim he left us in the same division as he found us and he got more money for us than he paid! Ok, that is forgetting money lost along the way, but he can walk away with a face saving position.
My feeling it will related to one (or more) of the below:
* RD has increased the amount he wants since promotion.
* RD wants all HIS "historical debt" paid now.
* RD wants to hold onto either The Valley or the training ground (may be both)
* RD wants sell on clauses re all existing players or a % of all transfer fees.
* RD wants a further payment (all his debt paid) if we get to the Prem.
If i was a prospective buyer it would stop the deal dead in the water if his debt was suddenly thrown into the negotiations,the same if he wanted to keep The Valley etc or if the price was increased after negotiations had begun.
I feel the horrific merry go round that RD and his arse lickers are puting us /our club through goes on and i just don't see how REAL prospective owners can deal with this deluded twonks ego.
What do we do ? no idea. Please lets put the bollox "he is a business man after all" to bed --------- NO not it anyway is he with reguard to CAFC. He has put off REAL bidders and im sure we are now almost untouchable.
Sad times when we should be looking forward to a new season
Dropped Mr Tatters off at Ebbsfleet this morning for the Somme trip. Reminded me of visits to Belgium. The same old feelings were stirred up. We need to get back out there and annoy the fuck out of him.
Even Mother ‘fucking’ Theresa wouldn’t take us on!
And, had the cat been facing the opposite direction, he'd have invented the pencil sharpener instead.
Thanks for the info Prague. 👍
If people have info they want to share then share it. If they don’t want to, or can’t, then why mention it in the first place?
https://www.ibroxnoise.co.uk/2019/07/fury-over-rangers-deal-continues-theyre.html?m=1
What riles me with Duchatelet is his complete lack of accountability for his rubbish short sighted penny pinching that leads to greater losses.
Laid bare in the Rangers blog above with the loss of Joe Aribo for peanuts.
Just hope the Belgian dies soon
Didn't he originally pay a fortune for some London firm to handle the takeover?
I guess it wouldnt help us even if they can as the Rat will only put that cost into "our" debt
Jeff Bezos!!!