Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...
@Davo55 is the CARD meeting with the EFL tomorrow?
Hopefully you will be able to find out if from the EFL's POV there has been any significant progress, e.g. a potential buyer who has actually completed the ODT (as I recall they do their best to not identify such a buyer as "the Aussies" or anyone else. But asa reminder to all, when CAST were there in October, only one buyer had actually got anywhere down the ODT track, and we all believe beyond reasonable doubt that it was "the Aussies".
Good luck with it, I am sure you will find something out, even if it is mainly that no buyer has as yet completed the process, in which case, as I said before, we can forget about a sale going through before 1 Feb.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...
last time i checked he was 72 hours from selling...
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...
last time i checked he was 72 hours from selling...
And had finally admitted that the club was for sale. The protests worked.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...
Someone take the shovel away......!
We are all entitled to our opinion pal. Mine is that it’s disrespectful to criticise the fans that go every week to support the players. I didn’t protest but I care about the future of Charlton hence why I want Roland out. But getting promotion also contributes to the future.
The fact is Roland is our owner, wants out and it will happen. In the meantime I will support the players as Bowyer has integrated some fighting spirit and im enjoying watching us play again.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...
last time i checked he was 72 hours from selling...
And had finally admitted that the club was for sale. The protests worked.
They haven’t been as successful as hoped because he is still our owner.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...
last time i checked he was 72 hours from selling ...Tulsa
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...
last time i checked he was 72 hours from selling...
And had finally admitted that the club was for sale. The protests worked.
They haven’t been as successful as hoped because he is still our owner.
They still worked.
I don't think anyone thought that one protest or one trip to Belguim would make him sell for £1 to the next bidder.
I said many years ago we had no knock out punch and that we had to keep jabbing away to wear him down and that is just what the protests, the publicity, etc etc did hence we are within sight of what we wanted, a sale.
@Davo55 is the CARD meeting with the EFL tomorrow?
Hopefully you will be able to find out if from the EFL's POV there has been any significant progress, e.g. a potential buyer who has actually completed the ODT (as I recall they do their best to not identify such a buyer as "the Aussies" or anyone else. But asa reminder to all, when CAST were there in October, only one buyer had actually got anywhere down the ODT track, and we all believe beyond reasonable doubt that it was "the Aussies".
Good luck with it, I am sure you will find something out, even if it is mainly that no buyer has as yet completed the process, in which case, as I said before, we can forget about a sale going through before 1 Feb.
The Championship is one of the most competitive leagues in the world. Make no mistake..... if we get promoted but RD stays, we will come straight back down whilst setting any number of unwanted records!!! It’d be an embarrassment
I am uncomfy with the growing but worrying trend of 'at least Roland is better than the ghost of Col Gaddafi, be careful what you wish for, he hasnt put a foot wrong COYA!' type posts now we are winning a few games.
On field progress is down solely to the playing and coaching staff.
On terrace progress (bigger gates/away followings)is down solely to the supporters who are buying into the above and coming to terms with their own emotions.
The club under Roland still lacks a SMT, any obvious plan for progression, any signs of true ambition or any attempt to heal rifts with the majority of the supporter base.
Real progress for our club is in limbo until he leaves, whoever the new owners may or may not be to my mind.
And it will be a big wake up call if any of the following happen:
- Jackson to Luton - Taylor to Millwall - Grant to Rangers
We are on a knife edge and Roland has the sharpener.
February 1st will be D day for Charlton's hopes this season and the new owners need to be in situ by end of February.
Jackson, Taylor and Grant must still be here or the decline of Cafc under Duchatelet continues ad nauseam.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...
Someone take the shovel away......!
We are all entitled to our opinion pal. Mine is that it’s disrespectful to criticise the fans that go every week to support the players. I didn’t protest but I care about the future of Charlton hence why I want Roland out. But getting promotion also contributes to the future.
The fact is Roland is our owner, wants out and it will happen. In the meantime I will support the players as Bowyer has integrated some fighting spirit and im enjoying watching us play again.
I don’t wholly agree with you but it’s better to have a few opposing views rather than everyone nodding to same lines day in day out.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...
last time i checked he was 72 hours from selling...
And had finally admitted that the club was for sale. The protests worked.
They haven’t been as successful as hoped because he is still our owner.
They still worked.
I don't think anyone thought that one protest or one trip to Belguim would make him sell for £1 to the next bidder.
I said many years ago we had no knock out punch and that we had to keep jabbing away to wear him down and that is just what the protests, the publicity, etc etc did hence we are within sight of what we wanted, a sale.
The protests worked.
Possibly, I don't think we will ever know exactly how much of an effect they had. They obviously contributed but I doubt Roland will ever reveal exactly what impact they had.
As for being within sight, we were told this over 12 months ago. As I said, he is still here.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...
Someone take the shovel away......!
We are all entitled to our opinion pal. Mine is that it’s disrespectful to criticise the fans that go every week to support the players. I didn’t protest but I care about the future of Charlton hence why I want Roland out. But getting promotion also contributes to the future.
The fact is Roland is our owner, wants out and it will happen. In the meantime I will support the players as Bowyer has integrated some fighting spirit and im enjoying watching us play again.
I’m quite sure everyone supports the players whether attending or not.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...
Someone take the shovel away......!
We are all entitled to our opinion pal. Mine is that it’s disrespectful to criticise the fans that go every week to support the players. I didn’t protest but I care about the future of Charlton hence why I want Roland out. But getting promotion also contributes to the future.
The fact is Roland is our owner, wants out and it will happen. In the meantime I will support the players as Bowyer has integrated some fighting spirit and im enjoying watching us play again.
I’m quite sure everyone supports the players whether attending or not.
But staying away takes some of that support away. And I am not criticising one person who is boycotting, I completely understand their reasons for it.
I think some of what I said has been taken out of context, but I stand by the fact that I don't agree with oohahh's comments. I think there is a big difference between saying "it's all ok now" as we're winning a few games and those who are putting the ownership issues to one side to support the side.
We all know Roland wants to sell and it will happen, so what's the point in continually slagging him off when we could instead be looking forward to Saturday afternoons again.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...
Someone take the shovel away......!
We are all entitled to our opinion pal. Mine is that it’s disrespectful to criticise the fans that go every week to support the players. I didn’t protest but I care about the future of Charlton hence why I want Roland out. But getting promotion also contributes to the future.
The fact is Roland is our owner, wants out and it will happen. In the meantime I will support the players as Bowyer has integrated some fighting spirit and im enjoying watching us play again.
I’m quite sure everyone supports the players whether attending or not.
But staying away takes some of that support away. And I am not criticising one person who is boycotting, I completely understand their reasons for it.
I think some of what I said has been taken out of context, but I stand by the fact that I don't agree with oohahh's comments. I think there is a big difference between saying "it's all ok now" as we're winning a few games and those who are putting the ownership issues to one side to support the side.
We all know Roland wants to sell and it will happen, so what's the point in continually slagging him off when we could instead be looking forward to Saturday afternoons again.
Because Roland is a cnut of the highest order and we can never be a United and successfully club until he fucks off
Whoever owns us at the end of the season, if all the good players out of contract are given new contracts and none of our better players sold, the club will be in a good place. If we are promoted as well, that will be the cherry on the top. I am not advocating I want RD to stay, as long as he does not do what he did to Standard Liège
Whoever owns us at the end of the season, if all the good players out of contract are given new contracts and none of our better players sold, the club will be in a good place. If we are promoted as well, that will be the cherry on the top. I am not advocating I want RD to stay, as long as he does not do what he did to Standard Liège
Problem is, not even the Rat himself knows what he might do at any given moment !
" Red pants, or white pants today, Ro ?" asks Madame D as she lays out his clothes for the day.
" Huh. Err, red. No white . Err, red, huh "
Later, Madame D finds both pairs still in situ on the bed.....
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
I disagree, of course it does, if you dont care about the clubs fortunes and only the teams fortune, then, at some point you wont have a club left to support.
Sorry I don't agree. I accept people need to care about the long term future of the club. But do you believe Roland will allow us to go into administration? I don't, so although he isn't backing the club nor is he good for the club, I would still prefer us to get promotion under him then stay in League 1 under new owners.
So for me supporting the team and getting good results in the priority at this moment in time. If that makes me a 'lame' fan then so be it.
Too many here would watch their mrs get shagged by the boss for 4 years and then when the boss has stopped shagging her and is just being a normal boss they would say oh it’s all ok now hes not doing anything wrong now . We have some proper lame fans, all deferential to Roly cos we’ve won a few games
That’s unfair. You cannot call fans lame for wanting to forgot the off field problems and concentrate on what could be a good season on the pitch.
Those defending him I don’t agree with, but some fans want to watch us win games and care little about the ownership issues, that doesn’t make them any less a fan.
Agreed, but it doesn't make them any less short-sighted. What will their reaction be when all our best players leave because they are out of contract? This situation will arise even if we are promoted. This embarrassing takeover business must be sorted ASAP.
Totally agree, but they are two different issues. Some fans prefer not to worry about things they have no control over. I don't think it is fair to say they are any less fans then those who spend their lives depressing over the fact that Roland is our owner.
It's just as well that some fans do worry about things they have no control over otherwise we might still be playing at shithurst.
@bobmunro nails it......not to mention the Belgium protesters, those that produced all the 'protest' items and all the protesters that gave up their time behind the main stand...but hey as long as you can just come and support the team thats all right.
The protests were designed to get Roland out of the club. Last time I checked he was still the owner...
last time i checked he was 72 hours from selling...
And had finally admitted that the club was for sale. The protests worked.
They haven’t been as successful as hoped because he is still our owner.
They still worked.
I don't think anyone thought that one protest or one trip to Belguim would make him sell for £1 to the next bidder.
I said many years ago we had no knock out punch and that we had to keep jabbing away to wear him down and that is just what the protests, the publicity, etc etc did hence we are within sight of what we wanted, a sale.
The protests worked.
Possibly, I don't think we will ever know exactly how much of an effect they had. They obviously contributed but I doubt Roland will ever reveal exactly what impact they had.
As for being within sight, we were told this over 12 months ago. As I said, he is still here.
Of course he won't. He won't reveal it to himself, His ego will ensure that. However here is a cold hard fact for you. Although RD has said he is finished with football, there are no signs whatever of him actually selling his stake in either Alcorcon or Ujpest, or his part share of Jena. It means that Charlton join Standard as the only two clubs he is actually getting out of, or has already done so. Some people may say he also sold STVV, but this isn't true in practice. He owns the stadium and infrastructure, and his baleful physical presence can regularly be observed there. What Charlton have in common with Standard is that both sets of fans, in their distinctively different ways, made it abundantly clear to him that his ownership was unappreciated. This lack of appreciation extended to the football world, where he is widely held in contempt by the ownerships of the other clubs. It seems to me beyond doubt that the protests are what has brought him to his decision to sell these two clubs. If you study RD's personal history, especially his failed attempt to get into politics you can discern a need to be loved and appreciated by the "masses". The Standard and Charlton fans have made it abundantly clear to him that he is not appreciated, but held in universal contempt. Without the protests this would not be clear to him at all.
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Hopefully you will be able to find out if from the EFL's POV there has been any significant progress, e.g. a potential buyer who has actually completed the ODT (as I recall they do their best to not identify such a buyer as "the Aussies" or anyone else. But asa reminder to all, when CAST were there in October, only one buyer had actually got anywhere down the ODT track, and we all believe beyond reasonable doubt that it was "the Aussies".
Good luck with it, I am sure you will find something out, even if it is mainly that no buyer has as yet completed the process, in which case, as I said before, we can forget about a sale going through before 1 Feb.
The fact is Roland is our owner, wants out and it will happen. In the meantime I will support the players as Bowyer has integrated some fighting spirit and im enjoying watching us play again.
I don't think anyone thought that one protest or one trip to Belguim would make him sell for £1 to the next bidder.
I said many years ago we had no knock out punch and that we had to keep jabbing away to wear him down and that is just what the protests, the publicity, etc etc did hence we are within sight of what we wanted, a sale.
The protests worked.
Number of chips in a portion is top of the agenda. We might get around to the sale nonsense sometime later.
It’d be an embarrassment
As for being within sight, we were told this over 12 months ago. As I said, he is still here.
I think some of what I said has been taken out of context, but I stand by the fact that I don't agree with oohahh's comments. I think there is a big difference between saying "it's all ok now" as we're winning a few games and those who are putting the ownership issues to one side to support the side.
We all know Roland wants to sell and it will happen, so what's the point in continually slagging him off when we could instead be looking forward to Saturday afternoons again.
" Red pants, or white pants today, Ro ?" asks Madame D as she lays out his clothes for the day.
" Huh. Err, red. No white . Err, red, huh "
Later, Madame D finds both pairs still in situ on the bed.....
Ro has gone commando.
But is wearing the blue pair on his head.
Weird !