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England Cricket 2017

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    Pathetic dismissal for Bairstow, what the hell is being said in the England dressing room
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280

    Root out, all over today I fear

    No idea why Morris didn't play in the first test, I thought he looked promising in the CT

    Was it a racial issue?
    They played a batsman at no 6, so seemed a bowler short
    They have to play a certain number of black players (I think its at least 2, maybe even 3)
    New quota system dictates 4 non white players, in this case, Amla,Bavuma,Philander,Maharaj, then there is Duminy and Rabada in the wings
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    edited July 2017
    This whole test match sounds like a pretty woeful capitulation by England to me.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    edited July 2017
    I know I shouldn't be saying this after 2 tests, but I do have my thoughts that Root has been thrown into captaincy too early

    I hope I'm wrong but I think this test will finish tomorrow.

    yep, can see them ripping through and getting 4 down in first session.
    Well, I was right with that one.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    7 down now.

    Pathetic!
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811

    I know I shouldn't be saying this after 2 tests, but I do have my thoughts that Root has been thrown into captaincy too early

    I hope I'm wrong but I think this test will finish tomorrow.

    yep, can see them ripping through and getting 4 down in first session.
    Well, I was right with that one.
    yeah it's only 2 tests, he needs a chance to prove himself, although use of reviews particularly has been poor.

    I think it would work if we had some experience around him, but Cook doesn't seem as though he has been particularly helpful, nor Anderson or Broad.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    brains? were Broad's Where - please rearrange.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    9 down, and it's not even 3pm
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    All out. We lose by a mere 340 runs.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767

    9 down, All out and it's not even 3pm

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  • CHG
    CHG Posts: 4,529
    Out twice in under 100 overs, horrible.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,995
    It honestly looked like we were giving catching practice for the last 3. If Pakistan had done that .....

    Jennings, Ballance & Dawson need to be dropped without doubt, they are not good enough.

    Hamed, Rashid plus another batsman.
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,285
    Terrible! Not really sure where we go from here. Some change is obviously needed but with no 4 day cricket now for a few weeks there is little chance for those outside the current squad to keep in the groove.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    It's the way we lost that's got everyone fuming. 2 days to survive, and we barely lasted half a day

  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811

    It honestly looked like we were giving catching practice for the last 3. If Pakistan had done that .....

    Jennings, Ballance & Dawson need to be dropped without doubt, they are not good enough.

    Hamed, Rashid plus another batsman.

    cannot disagree more, why do we need 4 seamers and 2 spinners.
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    It has got nothing to do with Root being installed as Captain. We have lost, I think, seven tests out of the last ten. We throw our wickets away too easily. We need more grit and stick ability. That was a pathetic capitulation. Let us not try to dress it up. It is all very well to say that we are playing a more positive brand of cricket but it is not working in Tests. Perhaps the Management need to be changed.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,670

    I hope I'm wrong but I think this test will finish tomorrow.

    Just as i predicted.
    For once I wish I had been wrong.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    edited July 2017

    It's the way we lost that's got everyone fuming. 2 days to survive, and we barely lasted half a day

    Exactly.

    The pundits all said batting conditions today were good. We should have been capable of batting the day out at least even if we were to lose eventually tomorrow.
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,342
    edited July 2017
    Woakes is badly missed and seven left handed batsmen did not help .
  • GreenWithEnvy
    GreenWithEnvy Posts: 1,841
    LenGlover said:

    It's the way we lost that's got everyone fuming. 2 days to survive, and we barely lasted half a day

    Exactly.

    The pundits all said batting conditions today were good. We should have been capable of batting the day out at least even if we were to lose eventually tomorrow.
    Absolutely dream conditions for batting today! Terrible collapse.
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  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,164
    edited July 2017
    Complete shambles.

    We don't seem to have any batsmen who show any level of consistency,,other than to constantly collapse.Root.being the exception.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,912
    I fall asleep on the sofa after an early start to catch a flight, at the time we were 4 down. I wake up and I'm getting g post match analysis! What happened?
  • StigThundercock
    StigThundercock Posts: 3,722
    edited July 2017
    gutless, feckless, witless, utterly shameful dereliction of duty by just about all of them with bat in hand. Two or three across 2 innings got wicket taking balls, the rest of it was absent technique (Jennings, Ballance) and selfish fuckwittery. Bar Jimmy, they all ought to be made to publicly explain their transgressions, any insulting crap about "it's the way I play, I went out to play my natural game" to be dealt with by a week in the pillory wearing signs over their groins marked "Kick Me" and refunds payable to all who attended this calumny out of the players' fees. wasters
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Oh great you're a cricket fan now
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    We need a few that sell their wickets dearly.
  • Missed It
    Missed It Posts: 2,733
    England don't really have the obdurate, bloody-minded type of players who can bat for two days to save a test. They get all itchy and nervous if they're not scoring. It's like T20 has turned them into ADHD patients.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,652

    gutless, feckless, witless, utterly shameful dereliction of duty by just about all of them with bat in hand. Two or three across 2 innings got wicket taking balls, the rest of it was absent technique (Jennings, Ballance) and selfish fuckwittery. Bar Jimmy, they all ought to be made to publicly explain their transgressions, any insulting crap about "it's the way I play, I went out to play my natural game" to be dealt with by a week in the pillory wearing signs over their groins marked "Kick Me" and refunds payable to all who attended this calumny out of the players' fees. wasters

    You're being far too soft on these pitiful embarrassments to their country. I'd force each of them to cough up a first born child to act as a guarantor of future performances. Perhaps we can also organise a GOT style shame march between Trent Bridge and Lords.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    edited July 2017
    dickplumb said:

    We need a few that sell their wickets dearly.

    Stoneman fits that bill. I think you'll find that one of Jennings or Ballance will remain in the team - more likely Ballance because of the Yorkie connection, and that Stoneman will come in to open with Cook. The next Test is at The Oval (i think) , so it will be Stonemans home ground. Out will go Dawson too.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844

    Gary Ballance is having an x-ray on his left index finger later this evening.
    That might make the decision a bit easier...
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    Hopefully they get their act together for the Oval... I'm going on the Friday