What a shame....
That could have been Robinson tonight.
Fucking abysmal the psychology permanently attached to our club.
We aren't the greatest fans in the world but we deserve better than to be habitually, royally embarrassed in this fixture, and the social impacts it has on all of us.
And the worst thing of all is knowing this means absolutely nothing to those who own and run our club. Absolutely nothing. Just anther shit performance and something we can 'learn from our mistakes'.
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Admin, someone tell him to put this on the match thread.
Don't need all these multiple threads clogging up the bandwidth.
Big Rob, can you look into it please?
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100% agree with every word
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I am completely anaesthetised from the whole thing now.
I don't think if the good times returned I'd even have much emotion towards it, such is the enthusiasm Ive had drained from me in the last god knows how many years.6 -
Don't even get angry anymore. Just feel flat. Dejected. Just bored of all things CAFC at the moment.8
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Certainly not Roland and Katrien.AFKABartram said:This club is on its knees and crying out for some form of hero, something good to get behind.
That could have been Robinson tonight.
Fucking abysmal the psychology permanently attached to our club.
We aren't the greatest fans in the world but we deserve better than to be habitually, royally embarrassed in this fixture, and the social impacts it has on all of us.
And the worst thing of all is knowing this means absolutely nothing to those who own and run our club. Absolutely nothing. Just anther shit performance and something we can 'learn from our mistakes'.0 -
I always dread this fixture because it's always always the fucking same. All my wife's family are Millwall fans and because it's my daughters birthday today we had a get together and I've spent the evening with three of them.
Everything but everything is so bloody depressing being a Charlton supporter these days and I am close after 56 years of living and breathing the club to just walking away. It's getting that bad in general and even worse when our shower of gutles wimps roll over to a very average Millwall yet again.
Right now everything Charlton can just do one.4 -
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Too many players interested in tattoos and Instagram posts these days.
I know we didn't beat Millwall under Powell (we never lost either), but I know full well the likes of Morrison/Wilson/Kermorgant etc would have understood 100% the importance of that game tonight.
Do you really think the likes of Texeira give a toss?!5 -
Worst thing is, in a little over 3 weeks we'll have to go through it all again.1
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They should give a toss about every single goddamned game. Its what they are paid for and why they are given the shirt.cafctom said:Too many players interested in tattoos and Instagram posts these days.
I know we didn't beat Millwall under Powell (we never lost either), but I know full well the likes of Morrison/Wilson/Kermorgant etc would have understood 100% the importance of that game tonight.
Do you really think the likes of Texeira give a toss?!0 - Sponsored links:
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Wimpist.ShootersHillGuru said:I always dread this fixture because it's always always the fucking same. All my wife's family are Millwall fans and because it's my daughters birthday today we had a get together and I've spent the evening with three of them.
Everything but everything is so bloody depressing being a Charlton supporter these days and I am close after 56 years of living and breathing the club to just walking away. It's getting that bad in general and even worse when our shower of gutles wimps roll over to a very average Millwall yet again.
Right now everything Charlton can just do one.1 -
I can take the ribbing from my family and mates that do go to Millwall, that's fine, it's the dick that I know giving it that I don't really like, that is really really getting on my tits at the moment. The twat can't even tell me the players names that played tonight , in fact I think I'm gonna go all medieval Millwall on him when I see him and knock his fucking teeth down his throat. I hate you Charlton, I hate you Robinson, I hate you, you fucking belgian arseholes.7
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I bought a ST, but I didn't go to the last 3 home games, I certainly was not going to Millwall, we all knew what would happen. The new manager, is the same as the old manager's, he can do one. I just cant be bothered with it all to be honest.
The only reason I am going to the home game on the 2nd January is because of the remembrance names on the screen of supporters that have passed, my Dads name will be there and quite frankly after supporting our team for over 65 years he deserves better than the lot who now own it.
I despise both the owner and CEO for what they have done to our club and supporters, while appearing to show no remorse or responsibility, I wish them nothing but plague and pestilence for the remainder of their lives, I dont think I have really 'hated' anyone before in my life, but I absolutely despise the pair of them.18 -
Such a narrow mindset. Tell me, how did we do against Millwall with those players in the team? To think that the answer to winning any match is just "show a bit more passion" is right out of the failed English manager's handbook. They may not give a shit about the club or us as fans but do you really think they like losing matches? I know any time I play a game even at 5 a side I have no attachment to the team or any history it might have but I know I don't like losing.cafctom said:Too many players interested in tattoos and Instagram posts these days.
I know we didn't beat Millwall under Powell (we never lost either), but I know full well the likes of Morrison/Wilson/Kermorgant etc would have understood 100% the importance of that game tonight.
Do you really think the likes of Texeira give a toss?!1 -
I'm very lucky, because in my 45 years I have never known a Millwall fan.4
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It was Robinsons one chance to put a marker down. We all know and I think even he has tumbled by now, that he is on a loser here. He could of been eulogised for many years to come in Charlton folklore, if he had at least pulled off a bit of a result, a fighting draw, would that of been too much to ask?
As you all know I gave up on this fixture years ago and I have nothing for admiration for those of you still willing to suspend some sort of belief every time it comes around and actually head off to that shit hole for some humiliation.
No surprise here, as I achingly try and extricate myself from behind my sofa, oh look, a Werther's Original! brush the fluff off that and it's good to go!
As for our latest bunch of bottle jobs and our shit new Scouse manager and the deluded Belgian arseholes he has sold his soul to... Go take a long jump off a short fucking pier, cnuts!5 -
With the greatest of respect. That's bollocks.colthe3rd said:
Such a narrow mindset. Tell me, how did we do against Millwall with those players in the team? To think that the answer to winning any match is just "show a bit more passion" is right out of the failed English manager's handbook. They may not give a shit about the club or us as fans but do you really think they like losing matches? I know any time I play a game even at 5 a side I have no attachment to the team or any history it might have but I know I don't like losing.cafctom said:Too many players interested in tattoos and Instagram posts these days.
I know we didn't beat Millwall under Powell (we never lost either), but I know full well the likes of Morrison/Wilson/Kermorgant etc would have understood 100% the importance of that game tonight.
Do you really think the likes of Texeira give a toss?!
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Wow I'm shocked you feel that way about one of my posts. With the greatest of respect.ShootersHillGuru said:
With the greatest of respect. That's bollocks.colthe3rd said:
Such a narrow mindset. Tell me, how did we do against Millwall with those players in the team? To think that the answer to winning any match is just "show a bit more passion" is right out of the failed English manager's handbook. They may not give a shit about the club or us as fans but do you really think they like losing matches? I know any time I play a game even at 5 a side I have no attachment to the team or any history it might have but I know I don't like losing.cafctom said:Too many players interested in tattoos and Instagram posts these days.
I know we didn't beat Millwall under Powell (we never lost either), but I know full well the likes of Morrison/Wilson/Kermorgant etc would have understood 100% the importance of that game tonight.
Do you really think the likes of Texeira give a toss?!1 -
Did you see the game last night, and the lack of effort involved?colthe3rd said:
Such a narrow mindset. Tell me, how did we do against Millwall with those players in the team? To think that the answer to winning any match is just "show a bit more passion" is right out of the failed English manager's handbook. They may not give a shit about the club or us as fans but do you really think they like losing matches? I know any time I play a game even at 5 a side I have no attachment to the team or any history it might have but I know I don't like losing.cafctom said:Too many players interested in tattoos and Instagram posts these days.
I know we didn't beat Millwall under Powell (we never lost either), but I know full well the likes of Morrison/Wilson/Kermorgant etc would have understood 100% the importance of that game tonight.
Do you really think the likes of Texeira give a toss?!
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I don't even think we can blame 'lack of effort' anymore. We are just proper shit.8
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Millwall are just as shit, Gary, as we saw last night. But their fight saw them through that game and we didn't match it.1
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I saw the game. To suggest things would have been different if they had run around a bit more or put in a reducer in the first minute is wrong imo. This run of results is a freak thing, happens plenty of times in football. People will want to read more into it because it's against them. Each match will have different reasons as to why it went wrong, last night I think it's just we aren't very good and I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that the midfield is probably the worst I've seen in all my years of supporting the club. You might call it lack of effort or passion or knowing what the fixture means, I'd prefer to say not good enough and over the hill players.cafctom said:
Did you see the game last night, and the lack of effort involved?colthe3rd said:
Such a narrow mindset. Tell me, how did we do against Millwall with those players in the team? To think that the answer to winning any match is just "show a bit more passion" is right out of the failed English manager's handbook. They may not give a shit about the club or us as fans but do you really think they like losing matches? I know any time I play a game even at 5 a side I have no attachment to the team or any history it might have but I know I don't like losing.cafctom said:Too many players interested in tattoos and Instagram posts these days.
I know we didn't beat Millwall under Powell (we never lost either), but I know full well the likes of Morrison/Wilson/Kermorgant etc would have understood 100% the importance of that game tonight.
Do you really think the likes of Texeira give a toss?!0 -
All valid points but wanting it more than the oppo has its merits too. Skill doesn't cut it on its own. The fact we don't have much of that either is important but application and desire to battle is very important too.colthe3rd said:
I saw the game. To suggest things would have been different if they had run around a bit more or put in a reducer in the first minute is wrong imo. This run of results is a freak thing, happens plenty of times in football. People will want to read more into it because it's against them. Each match will have different reasons as to why it went wrong, last night I think it's just we aren't very good and I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that the midfield is probably the worst I've seen in all my years of supporting the club. You might call it lack of effort or passion or knowing what the fixture means, I'd prefer to say not good enough and over the hill players.cafctom said:
Did you see the game last night, and the lack of effort involved?colthe3rd said:
Such a narrow mindset. Tell me, how did we do against Millwall with those players in the team? To think that the answer to winning any match is just "show a bit more passion" is right out of the failed English manager's handbook. They may not give a shit about the club or us as fans but do you really think they like losing matches? I know any time I play a game even at 5 a side I have no attachment to the team or any history it might have but I know I don't like losing.cafctom said:Too many players interested in tattoos and Instagram posts these days.
I know we didn't beat Millwall under Powell (we never lost either), but I know full well the likes of Morrison/Wilson/Kermorgant etc would have understood 100% the importance of that game tonight.
Do you really think the likes of Texeira give a toss?!
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So which is it? Valid points or bollocks? I'm so confused.ShootersHillGuru said:
All valid points but wanting it more than the oppo has its merits too. Skill doesn't cut it on its own. The fact we don't have much of that either is important but application and desire to battle is very important too.colthe3rd said:
I saw the game. To suggest things would have been different if they had run around a bit more or put in a reducer in the first minute is wrong imo. This run of results is a freak thing, happens plenty of times in football. People will want to read more into it because it's against them. Each match will have different reasons as to why it went wrong, last night I think it's just we aren't very good and I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that the midfield is probably the worst I've seen in all my years of supporting the club. You might call it lack of effort or passion or knowing what the fixture means, I'd prefer to say not good enough and over the hill players.cafctom said:
Did you see the game last night, and the lack of effort involved?colthe3rd said:
Such a narrow mindset. Tell me, how did we do against Millwall with those players in the team? To think that the answer to winning any match is just "show a bit more passion" is right out of the failed English manager's handbook. They may not give a shit about the club or us as fans but do you really think they like losing matches? I know any time I play a game even at 5 a side I have no attachment to the team or any history it might have but I know I don't like losing.cafctom said:Too many players interested in tattoos and Instagram posts these days.
I know we didn't beat Millwall under Powell (we never lost either), but I know full well the likes of Morrison/Wilson/Kermorgant etc would have understood 100% the importance of that game tonight.
Do you really think the likes of Texeira give a toss?!0 -
For the first 40 minutes they were even worse than us. Then one decent ball into the box and we are one nil down, then some truely comical defending by 'the best centre back pairing in the league' and its 2-0 in 2 minutes. Some more shit defending by them let us back in it, then our two ancient centre midfielders are blowing out their arse and the fat prick on the sidelines doesn't do anything about it. It's a catalogue of errors that happen time and time again because the players and staff aren't good enough. Do I think Millwall put in more effort that Charlton in the first half? No, and we were still 2-0 down.cafctom said:Millwall are just as shit, Gary, as we saw last night. But their fight saw them through that game and we didn't match it.
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Maybe I'm naive but 'not trying' or 'lacking effort' doesn't enter someone's head when playing football. When the game starts, your instinct is to win. It comes down to confidence, which has a direct effect on performance. Those players last night are severely lacking in confidence and belief, so it has a knock on effect on their decision making. Add that to the fact 6 or 7 are simply not good enough and you get games like last night.ShootersHillGuru said:
All valid points but wanting it more than the oppo has its merits too. Skill doesn't cut it on its own. The fact we don't have much of that either is important but application and desire to battle is very important too.colthe3rd said:
I saw the game. To suggest things would have been different if they had run around a bit more or put in a reducer in the first minute is wrong imo. This run of results is a freak thing, happens plenty of times in football. People will want to read more into it because it's against them. Each match will have different reasons as to why it went wrong, last night I think it's just we aren't very good and I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that the midfield is probably the worst I've seen in all my years of supporting the club. You might call it lack of effort or passion or knowing what the fixture means, I'd prefer to say not good enough and over the hill players.cafctom said:
Did you see the game last night, and the lack of effort involved?colthe3rd said:
Such a narrow mindset. Tell me, how did we do against Millwall with those players in the team? To think that the answer to winning any match is just "show a bit more passion" is right out of the failed English manager's handbook. They may not give a shit about the club or us as fans but do you really think they like losing matches? I know any time I play a game even at 5 a side I have no attachment to the team or any history it might have but I know I don't like losing.cafctom said:Too many players interested in tattoos and Instagram posts these days.
I know we didn't beat Millwall under Powell (we never lost either), but I know full well the likes of Morrison/Wilson/Kermorgant etc would have understood 100% the importance of that game tonight.
Do you really think the likes of Texeira give a toss?!10 -
Valid bollocks.colthe3rd said:
So which is it? Valid points or bollocks? I'm so confused.ShootersHillGuru said:
All valid points but wanting it more than the oppo has its merits too. Skill doesn't cut it on its own. The fact we don't have much of that either is important but application and desire to battle is very important too.colthe3rd said:
I saw the game. To suggest things would have been different if they had run around a bit more or put in a reducer in the first minute is wrong imo. This run of results is a freak thing, happens plenty of times in football. People will want to read more into it because it's against them. Each match will have different reasons as to why it went wrong, last night I think it's just we aren't very good and I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that the midfield is probably the worst I've seen in all my years of supporting the club. You might call it lack of effort or passion or knowing what the fixture means, I'd prefer to say not good enough and over the hill players.cafctom said:
Did you see the game last night, and the lack of effort involved?colthe3rd said:
Such a narrow mindset. Tell me, how did we do against Millwall with those players in the team? To think that the answer to winning any match is just "show a bit more passion" is right out of the failed English manager's handbook. They may not give a shit about the club or us as fans but do you really think they like losing matches? I know any time I play a game even at 5 a side I have no attachment to the team or any history it might have but I know I don't like losing.cafctom said:Too many players interested in tattoos and Instagram posts these days.
I know we didn't beat Millwall under Powell (we never lost either), but I know full well the likes of Morrison/Wilson/Kermorgant etc would have understood 100% the importance of that game tonight.
Do you really think the likes of Texeira give a toss?!3 -
We will continue to lose games under KR. I didn't go last night but reading between the lines, a similar attacking formation was used and clearly it didn't work.
We don't have the players to do that, so KR has got to radically change things and new players aren't going to come quick enough.0 -
One of the younger lads at the fire station is a knuckle dragger, he text me after their first two goals and my reply of "It shows how crap you are that it took you so long to score against us." Quietened him down a tad.0
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Mostly bollocks. If you think that all players go out and give 100% then you've obviously not watched very closely. As a manager you want players that have character and perform consistently whatever the circumstances. The cliched being able to perform on a cold Tuesday night in Carlisle. Not letting your heads to drop. I could go on.colthe3rd said:
So which is it? Valid points or bollocks? I'm so confused.ShootersHillGuru said:
All valid points but wanting it more than the oppo has its merits too. Skill doesn't cut it on its own. The fact we don't have much of that either is important but application and desire to battle is very important too.colthe3rd said:
I saw the game. To suggest things would have been different if they had run around a bit more or put in a reducer in the first minute is wrong imo. This run of results is a freak thing, happens plenty of times in football. People will want to read more into it because it's against them. Each match will have different reasons as to why it went wrong, last night I think it's just we aren't very good and I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that the midfield is probably the worst I've seen in all my years of supporting the club. You might call it lack of effort or passion or knowing what the fixture means, I'd prefer to say not good enough and over the hill players.cafctom said:
Did you see the game last night, and the lack of effort involved?colthe3rd said:
Such a narrow mindset. Tell me, how did we do against Millwall with those players in the team? To think that the answer to winning any match is just "show a bit more passion" is right out of the failed English manager's handbook. They may not give a shit about the club or us as fans but do you really think they like losing matches? I know any time I play a game even at 5 a side I have no attachment to the team or any history it might have but I know I don't like losing.cafctom said:Too many players interested in tattoos and Instagram posts these days.
I know we didn't beat Millwall under Powell (we never lost either), but I know full well the likes of Morrison/Wilson/Kermorgant etc would have understood 100% the importance of that game tonight.
Do you really think the likes of Texeira give a toss?!
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