Panicking? No. Resigned to another year of mediocrity? Yes. Any hope that things will improve under Roland and The Liar? No. Expecting another tonking on Wednesday? I think you can all guess the answer to that one.
I'm no panicking but this isn't a strong league yet we're a long way off even making the play-offs.
We had a cautious manager that had us sitting back and relying on our wide players to create. We've now gone for the complete opposite, a manager that wants us to be much more attacking. He talks about aggressive pressing and expansive football. He wants a number 10 playing behind a lone striker. He's talked about the wingers playing narrow - presumably to create space for the full backs to get get forward.
Based on yesterday as a minimum we need a mobile, energetic CM to play alongside Ulvestad. A creative playmaker for that number 10 role - and given Robinson wants us to press teams, they need to be willing to work hard as well. We need another winger so we have that option from the bench. We could also do with at least one attacking full back.
RD on the other hand would rather see those positions filled by the likes of Aribo - yet at the same time he wants us to challenge for promotion. It's asking a lot to aim that high with so many young players in the team and those unrealistic expectations are why we go through so many managers and players.
We had yet another new era and squad rebuild in the summer. It's now December and we already need 3/4 new players, if not more. That's before anyone is sold, which is always likely to happen under RD. Robinson ideally wants two players per position. We'll do well to bring in a proven number 10, never mind two. Those type of players aren't likely to be cheap and readily available, even more so in January.
We spent what must have been big money for this division on Ajose, a player who now doesn't fit the managers system. As said in the opening post we'll probably finish mid table. Why should that just be accepted when it's likely to result in Robinson losing his job and another "new era" in the summer. We're continuing to fall and I fail to see how Duchatelet's methods are ever going to reverse that. He has his beliefs and ideas when it comes to football and they're not going to change.
We look set for another year in this dogpoo league with no hope for the future. Under this regime there is no light at the end of the tunnel. The club has a deep-seeded internal disease that infects whoever walks through the door. We see it on the pitch. We've seen 'decent' managers fail and fail and there's nothing to indicate Robinson is going to be able to get it right other than what he says in press conferences, and I seem to remember Slade was pretty good at those as well.
I think your post summarises how low our expectations as a club have dropped. We're in league one, newly relegated with a supposed top-6 budget and we're looking at mid-table mediocrity or worse, a team full of legless journeymen who moan at each other on the pitch, and we're told not to panic.
I think you're right actually, it's not time to panic, that time is long past. Now is the time for hopeless despair.
So we're supposed to be 'chilled' about mid-table mediocrity in a poor league after being told pre-season that RD was committed to doing whatever it takes to ensure promotion? And some believed it?
Either we were lied to (again), or the regime significantly underestimated the competition (again), or both.
The rot will not stop until they are gone. I'm amazed that some people still can't or won't see it.
Panicking? No. Resigned to another year of mediocrity? Yes. Any hope that things will improve under Roland and The Liar? No. Expecting another tonking on Wednesday? I think you can all guess the answer to that one.
Absolutely this. The saddest thing is that as a boycotter I now have so much detachment from what's going on I just don't give a shit when we lose now. And I hate that. Will do a few awayers in the ny but not expecting the flame to be reignited until rd sells or dies.
270 bloody minutes and no goals. Yesterday not a shot on target. We are mid-table in the third tier of English football with absolutely no chance of getting promoted. Talk of the playoffs is pathetic, to me not even close success. There is still a real chance of relegation, although I think this season we have enough quality to keep us out of the 4th tier of English football. We shouldn't even be in this league and wouldn't be if it weren't for that poor excuse of an owner had taken the opportunities he had whe he bought the club. I'm not panicking , I'm grieving for the loss of my club.
....first bad performance in ages and everyone spits their dummies out their gobs and throws their toys out the pram. For christ sake let's calm down. If we keep the bad performances up then we panic. We didn't win wars by panicing. Best thing is sit the lads calmly down in a room on monday. Watch the video of the game. Well DVD these days. Analyse what went wrong and why it went wrong and put it to practice on the training field.
Before this game we played quite well. But at times what we have shown is the lack of a Dale Stephens type creative midfielder. Even that has shown in those game we were playing well.
We are prone to an indifferent performance like today but we have had good perforamances too. I reckon we will see these up and down performances will happen for the rest of the season. We will finish mid-table.
I think we have an honest bunch who want to try hard. It's managing these set backs.
If you can't accept bad perforamnces don't come.
Just chill!
Finishing mid-table in League 1, the third league of professional football in England is acceptable in what way?
I am not panicking, I am distraught.
I will still come and support the club when me and the boy are available for home games.
It's not the quality of the football, dire though it can be, that's stops me arranging my weekends around the games or having a season ticket.
It is the total incompetence and lack of any quality of the executives at the club.
Honestly Katrien Meire, Tony keohane, the CFO whatever his name is (Jarvis is it?) are all terrible
Duchatelet is an abomination of an owner, has openly criticised top quality people at the club and really has no place in football.
None of this seems controversial to me, it's just right isn't it?
Everyone has seen out lack of depth of squad for the last 3 seasons. And we are still paying out a load for players we can't move on and are on loan.
....first bad performance in ages and everyone spits their dummies out their gobs and throws their toys out the pram. For christ sake let's calm down. If we keep the bad performances up then we panic. We didn't win wars by panicing. Best thing is sit the lads calmly down in a room on monday. Watch the video of the game. Well DVD these days. Analyse what went wrong and why it went wrong and put it to practice on the training field.
Before this game we played quite well. But at times what we have shown is the lack of a Dale Stephens type creative midfielder. Even that has shown in those game we were playing well.
We are prone to an indifferent performance like today but we have had good perforamances too. I reckon we will see these up and down performances will happen for the rest of the season. We will finish mid-table.
I think we have an honest bunch who want to try hard. It's managing these set backs.
If you can't accept bad perforamnces don't come.
Just chill!
It is the total incompetence and lack of any quality of the executives at the club.
Honestly Katrien Meire, Tony keohane, the CFO whatever his name is (Jarvis is it?) are all terrible
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We had a cautious manager that had us sitting back and relying on our wide players to create. We've now gone for the complete opposite, a manager that wants us to be much more attacking. He talks about aggressive pressing and expansive football. He wants a number 10 playing behind a lone striker. He's talked about the wingers playing narrow - presumably to create space for the full backs to get get forward.
Based on yesterday as a minimum we need a mobile, energetic CM to play alongside Ulvestad. A creative playmaker for that number 10 role - and given Robinson wants us to press teams, they need to be willing to work hard as well. We need another winger so we have that option from the bench. We could also do with at least one attacking full back.
RD on the other hand would rather see those positions filled by the likes of Aribo - yet at the same time he wants us to challenge for promotion. It's asking a lot to aim that high with so many young players in the team and those unrealistic expectations are why we go through so many managers and players.
We had yet another new era and squad rebuild in the summer. It's now December and we already need 3/4 new players, if not more. That's before anyone is sold, which is always likely to happen under RD. Robinson ideally wants two players per position. We'll do well to bring in a proven number 10, never mind two. Those type of players aren't likely to be cheap and readily available, even more so in January.
We spent what must have been big money for this division on Ajose, a player who now doesn't fit the managers system. As said in the opening post we'll probably finish mid table. Why should that just be accepted when it's likely to result in Robinson losing his job and another "new era" in the summer. We're continuing to fall and I fail to see how Duchatelet's methods are ever going to reverse that. He has his beliefs and ideas when it comes to football and they're not going to change.
I think your post summarises how low our expectations as a club have dropped. We're in league one, newly relegated with a supposed top-6 budget and we're looking at mid-table mediocrity or worse, a team full of legless journeymen who moan at each other on the pitch, and we're told not to panic.
I think you're right actually, it's not time to panic, that time is long past. Now is the time for hopeless despair.
Either we were lied to (again), or the regime significantly underestimated the competition (again), or both.
The rot will not stop until they are gone. I'm amazed that some people still can't or won't see it.
Midfield's a mess but our forwards are also a concern , surely ?
I'm not panicking , I'm grieving for the loss of my club.
I am not panicking, I am distraught.
I will still come and support the club when me and the boy are available for home games.
It's not the quality of the football, dire though it can be, that's stops me arranging my weekends around the games or having a season ticket.
It is the total incompetence and lack of any quality of the executives at the club.
Honestly Katrien Meire, Tony keohane, the CFO whatever his name is (Jarvis is it?) are all terrible
Duchatelet is an abomination of an owner, has openly criticised top quality people at the club and really has no place in football.
None of this seems controversial to me, it's just right isn't it?
Everyone has seen out lack of depth of squad for the last 3 seasons. And we are still paying out a load for players we can't move on and are on loan.
It makes me and the lad cry it really does.