When clubs sack a coach for this behaviour but not warn other clubs what is happening, will mean it could go on at any club. Why do senior management consider that sacking the person or as in the church, move them to another area, means they have done all they need to do. From the church, BBC and now football, to name the most famous cases, senior people know it happens but hope to sweep it under the carpet, this makes them just as guilty as the perpetrator, and if found to be the case should be prosecuted for aiding and abetting, after all, that is what it is.
Understandable that the club should make a statement, but it's very hard to see what an "internal" investigation could look at, given that the club itself has no records from that time and nobody who was involved then is part of the club now. indeed, it was a different company.
Understandable that the club should make a statement, but it's very hard to see what an "internal" investigation could look at, given that the club itself has no records from that time and nobody who was involved then is part of the club now. indeed, it was a different company.
Was going to ask the same thing. How exactly do they investigate it?
What i don't get is, this guy was sacked by Chelsea when Geoff Hurst was manager and suspected he was up to no good. One of their ex players has said "everyone knew he was a nonce". Now people obviously talk within football, so how was Heath then able to get a job at other clubs and with us?
It will be interesting to see what this internal investigation achieves. The alleged perpetrator has been dead longer than most CAFC staff have been alive, very few if any staff will remember him and the club have changed ownership many times since.
Is the internal investigation over resignation-gate still on going?
Understandable that the club should make a statement, but it's very hard to see what an "internal" investigation could look at, given that the club itself has no records from that time and nobody who was involved then is part of the club now. indeed, it was a different company.
I think you're nitpicking unnecessarily over the term internal. It is the same club.
I just hope it's as thorough and open as victim(s) deserve. Considering there's nothing on the os/twitter it's not a great start.
On that note, I was impressed the Chelsea statement was addressed on motd last night.
Understandable that the club should make a statement, but it's very hard to see what an "internal" investigation could look at, given that the club itself has no records from that time and nobody who was involved then is part of the club now. indeed, it was a different company.
I think you're nitpicking unnecessarily over the term internal. It is the same club.
I just hope it's as thorough and open as victim(s) deserve. Considering there's nothing on the os/twitter it's not a great start.
On that note, I was impressed the Chelsea statement was addressed on motd last night.
To be honest it might as well not be, given the records available, the turnover of staff and officials since 1983, and the people who have since died. It may be that the museum has something via Colin Cameron, but AFAIK the club wouldn't have anything at all. It wouldn't even know who worked there in 1983. The only way the club could investigate this is by interviewing third parties outside the organisation, which is presumably the job of the police or a wider inquiry. I'm not criticising the statement, I just don't think the person responsible will appreciate that there simply isn't anyone or anything under the club's control to look at. Maybe that's what it will determine.
Understandable that the club should make a statement, but it's very hard to see what an "internal" investigation could look at, given that the club itself has no records from that time and nobody who was involved then is part of the club now. indeed, it was a different company.
I think you're nitpicking unnecessarily over the term internal. It is the same club.
I just hope it's as thorough and open as victim(s) deserve. Considering there's nothing on the os/twitter it's not a great start.
On that note, I was impressed the Chelsea statement was addressed on motd last night.
To be honest it might as well not be, given the records available, the turnover of staff and officials since 1983, and the people who have since died. It may be that the museum has something via Colin Cameron, but AFAIK the club wouldn't have anything at all. It wouldn't even know who worked there in 1983. The only way the club could investigate this is by interviewing third parties outside the organisation, which is presumably the job of the police or a wider inquiry. I'm not criticising the statement, I just don't think the person responsible will appreciate that there simply isn't anyone or anything under the club's control to look at. Maybe that's what it will determine.
But it is the same club, the same club where alleged sexual abuse took place and if it did, there needs to be an investigation. The fact that there has been staff turnover since then is immaterial; they can't all be dead and those people who worked with Heath need to be interviewed for Russel Harvey's sake if nothing else. To not do so would be inexcusable.
Am I right in thinking he worked under Lennie Lawrence and Eddie May at Charlton?
Yes to Lennie, although if he'd been there three years, he can't have been recruited by LL, who arrived in 1982. At the time, the youth set-up reported to the manager. These days it reports to the chief exec, and has since 1998 under academy rules.
So it looks as if Heath was appointed by either Mike Bailey or Alan Mullery, who took over in 1981. He also appears he worked at Millwall after leaving Chelsea, which must have been quite brief. So one question is why he left Millwall.
You may well be more aware of what is/isn't available then those writing the statement, but I could hardly imagine them not saying anything or looking to pass off any responsibility to the police/authorities immediately.
You may well be more aware of what is/isn't available then those writing the statement, but I could hardly imagine them not saying anything or looking to pass off any responsibility to the police/authorities immediately.
I think we should close this blog...so we/the club don't jeopardisy evidence against the alledge..let the authorities now investigate and get the xxxx (sorry to swear)
Understandable that the club should make a statement, but it's very hard to see what an "internal" investigation could look at, given that the club itself has no records from that time and nobody who was involved then is part of the club now. indeed, it was a different company.
Was going to ask the same thing. How exactly do they investigate it?
What i don't get is, this guy was sacked by Chelsea when Geoff Hurst was manager and suspected he was up to no good. One of their ex players has said "everyone knew he was a nonce". Now people obviously talk within football, so how was Heath then able to get a job at other clubs and with us?
Was thinking exactly the same....something very wrong.
Lead story on BBC local news in the SE - Tory MP for Folkestone, who is chair of the DCMS select committee, says Charlton can't investigate themselves. In fairness to him, looked like the BBC SE had been struggling to find someone to comment.
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What i don't get is, this guy was sacked by Chelsea when Geoff Hurst was manager and suspected he was up to no good. One of their ex players has said "everyone knew he was a nonce". Now people obviously talk within football, so how was Heath then able to get a job at other clubs and with us?
Is the internal investigation over resignation-gate still on going?
I just hope it's as thorough and open as victim(s) deserve. Considering there's nothing on the os/twitter it's not a great start.
On that note, I was impressed the Chelsea statement was addressed on motd last night.
The fact that there has been staff turnover since then is immaterial; they can't all be dead and those people who worked with Heath need to be interviewed for Russel Harvey's sake if nothing else.
To not do so would be inexcusable.
So it looks as if Heath was appointed by either Mike Bailey or Alan Mullery, who took over in 1981. He also appears he worked at Millwall after leaving Chelsea, which must have been quite brief. So one question is why he left Millwall.
You may well be more aware of what is/isn't available then those writing the statement, but I could hardly imagine them not saying anything or looking to pass off any responsibility to the police/authorities immediately.
Has this been on the OS yet?