Rudd has been excellent for us, but it's not as if he's making 5 or 6 top class saves a match like Heaton is for Burnley. Pearce and Bauer would be a decent Championship pairing
Its because he's not having to because Solly / Foley | Bauer | Pearce | Fox are doing their job... Dont forget the times he has been called into action though, i.e. the reflexed save to stop Coventry equalising
What we need is a back five that is settled and regular... thats happened and we're seeing the clean sheets come because they all know and trust each other and we're seeing similar signs between the Defence of this year (18-games conceded at this stage) and the Defence that won the League (14-goals were conceded at this stage).
Losing Rudd and getting someone completely new will mean the Defence will have to start from scratch with them.
Obviously I'd rather we didn't lose him, but we didn't fall apart at the back last night without him, and with good coaching it shouldn't take our defence that long to get used to a new keeper
After all in 1998 Ilic came in from nowhere and set new records for clean sheets!
He was probably helped by the fact that his family ran a laundry.
Arsenal have Emiliano Martínez who's experienced in the Championship (Wolves last season) Bournemouth have Ryan Allsop who I wasnt impressed with @ Portsmouth in the Play-Offs Burnley have of course Nick Pope Leicester City have of course Ben Hamer Manchester City have Angus Gunn who's highly rated Manchester United have Sam Johnstone with loads of Football League experience yet is wanted by Aston Villa West Ham have some Swiss kid called Raphael Spiegel who has played in League Two a few times
A few of the more obvious third choice 'keepers from the Premier League sides
Like @Athletico Charlton, I have only seen Rudd three times and, while decent, I've not been overwhelmed. There's at least as good out there and young Phillips was great by all accounts last night. The other aspect of course is that as Rudd has now been in the madhouse for a few months, he's presumably chomping at the bit to get the hell out of Dodge City!
Rudd has been excellent for us, but it's not as if he's making 5 or 6 top class saves a match like Heaton is for Burnley. Pearce and Bauer would be a decent Championship pairing
Its because he's not having to because Solly / Foley | Bauer | Pearce | Fox are doing their job... Dont forget the times he has been called into action though, i.e. the reflexed save to stop Coventry equalising
What we need is a back five that is settled and regular... thats happened and we're seeing the clean sheets come because they all know and trust each other and we're seeing similar signs between the Defence of this year (18-games conceded at this stage) and the Defence that won the League (14-goals were conceded at this stage).
Losing Rudd and getting someone completely new will mean the Defence will have to start from scratch with them.
I'm inclined to worry that Bauer won't still be with us by the end of January (obviously, I expect the regime to do really good business on Tex and Ba as well). So, losing Rudd might not be the biggest worry we have.
Have to get this sorted one way or the other early in the window. Phillips looks like he is ready to me but not sure Mitov is. We need the depth if we are going to make a push for promotion.
Arsenal have Emiliano Martínez who's experienced in the Championship (Wolves last season) Bournemouth have Ryan Allsop who I wasnt impressed with @ Portsmouth in the Play-Offs Burnley have of course Nick Pope Leicester City have of course Ben Hamer Manchester City have Angus Gunn who's highly rated Manchester United have Sam Johnstone with loads of Football League experience yet is wanted by Aston Villa West Ham have some Swiss kid called Raphael Spiegel who has played in League Two a few times
A few of the more obvious third choice 'keepers from the Premier League sides
Think Rob Elliot is fit again and is down the pecking order at Newcastle.
Wasn't that impressed with him when he was here before but he had some good performances last season in a relegated side.
Have to get this sorted one way or the other early in the window. Phillips looks like he is ready to me but not sure Mitov is. We need the depth if we are going to make a push for promotion.
I'm happy with a senior keeper and Dillon as back up, he's at the stage where he needs to be number 2 keeper, not 3rd or 4th choice.
I believe you can still make emergency loans for keepers anyway, so it's not as if we wouldn't be able to bring someone in if necessary
Arsenal have Emiliano Martínez who's experienced in the Championship (Wolves last season) Bournemouth have Ryan Allsop who I wasnt impressed with @ Portsmouth in the Play-Offs Burnley have of course Nick Pope Leicester City have of course Ben Hamer Manchester City have Angus Gunn who's highly rated Manchester United have Sam Johnstone with loads of Football League experience yet is wanted by Aston Villa West Ham have some Swiss kid called Raphael Spiegel who has played in League Two a few times
A few of the more obvious third choice 'keepers from the Premier League sides
Think Rob Elliot is fit again and is down the pecking order at Newcastle.
Wasn't that impressed with him when he was here before but he had some good performances last season in a relegated side.
was gutted for him when he got injured as he was going to the euro's with ireland.
anyway, if Rudd goes back then i would take Robbie back all day long but, despite being 3rd/4th choice, he is quite highly thought of up there and just signed a new 4 year deal in September so not sure if they would let him go out on loan
Arsenal have Emiliano Martínez who's experienced in the Championship (Wolves last season) Bournemouth have Ryan Allsop who I wasnt impressed with @ Portsmouth in the Play-Offs Burnley have of course Nick Pope Leicester City have of course Ben Hamer Manchester City have Angus Gunn who's highly rated Manchester United have Sam Johnstone with loads of Football League experience yet is wanted by Aston Villa West Ham have some Swiss kid called Raphael Spiegel who has played in League Two a few times
A few of the more obvious third choice 'keepers from the Premier League sides
Think Rob Elliot is fit again and is down the pecking order at Newcastle.
Wasn't that impressed with him when he was here before but he had some good performances last season in a relegated side.
was gutted for him when he got injured as he was going to the euro's with ireland.
anyway, if Rudd goes back then i would take Robbie back all day long but, despite being 3rd/4th choice, he is quite highly thought of up there and just signed a new 4 year deal in September so not sure if they would let him go out on loan
If he's 3rd choice, then he'd probably need game time so a loan out might make sense.
Arsenal have Emiliano Martínez who's experienced in the Championship (Wolves last season) Bournemouth have Ryan Allsop who I wasnt impressed with @ Portsmouth in the Play-Offs Burnley have of course Nick Pope Leicester City have of course Ben Hamer Manchester City have Angus Gunn who's highly rated Manchester United have Sam Johnstone with loads of Football League experience yet is wanted by Aston Villa West Ham have some Swiss kid called Raphael Spiegel who has played in League Two a few times
A few of the more obvious third choice 'keepers from the Premier League sides
Think Rob Elliot is fit again and is down the pecking order at Newcastle.
Wasn't that impressed with him when he was here before but he had some good performances last season in a relegated side.
was gutted for him when he got injured as he was going to the euro's with ireland.
anyway, if Rudd goes back then i would take Robbie back all day long but, despite being 3rd/4th choice, he is quite highly thought of up there and just signed a new 4 year deal in September so not sure if they would let him go out on loan
If he's 3rd choice, then he'd probably need game time so a loan out might make sense.
you would think so but he is 30, 3rd/4th choice and been handed a new 4 year deal just two months ago. I wonder if they want him around the place for more that just 3rd choice back up??
Not too worried about this if it does happen. As Forever addicted says, plenty of capable premier league 3rd choice keepers out there and Phillips is a good backup.
I'm more concerned with us getting in the couple of central midfielders we desperately need.
At Bromley Rudd was very positive about Charlton, and Slade, and it seemed he knew he would have to make a choice in the summer.
Hr said at 25 hr wasn't happy to be second choice anymore.
He's a Norwich boy and a Norwich fan and would go back there if he was first pick.
If not we have a chance but I think we'd need to get promotion to sign him permanently.
He does the job when needed, doesn't flap and doesnt lose his head when he makes a mistake.
But we also have Philips and Mitov and there's the rub.
A long term manager would have to make a long term decision over who to keep and who to upset, what us the pipeline like for keepers so do we spend money on fees and wages if we have good ones coming through.
But we don't have a long term manager or director of football so decisions are all short term and every new managers wants their own players.
I've really warmed to him. Cheltenham away in the Carling Cup he turned around after and apologised to some pretty angry fans. He knows he is far too good for this league and it shows; he commands well and can make a top save if called upon. He looks like he really cares too. Would be a shame if he goes.
Rudd wants to play, I think all reserve keepers have to decide at some point whether they want to play regularly, or spend their career as a permanent No 2 (Steve Harper, Richard Wright etc)
He may not get a choice in the matter, but I suspect Rudd is happy here and would happily see out the season. A good season with us will help his next move. Indeed, if we go up he'd probably want to make the deal permanent
Arsenal have Emiliano Martínez who's experienced in the Championship (Wolves last season) Bournemouth have Ryan Allsop who I wasnt impressed with @ Portsmouth in the Play-Offs Burnley have of course Nick Pope Leicester City have of course Ben Hamer Manchester City have Angus Gunn who's highly rated Manchester United have Sam Johnstone with loads of Football League experience yet is wanted by Aston Villa West Ham have some Swiss kid called Raphael Spiegel who has played in League Two a few times
A few of the more obvious third choice 'keepers from the Premier League sides
Think Rob Elliot is fit again and is down the pecking order at Newcastle.
Wasn't that impressed with him when he was here before but he had some good performances last season in a relegated side.
was gutted for him when he got injured as he was going to the euro's with ireland.
anyway, if Rudd goes back then i would take Robbie back all day long but, despite being 3rd/4th choice, he is quite highly thought of up there and just signed a new 4 year deal in September so not sure if they would let him go out on loan
He's recovering from injury. I expect him to be first choice there when he's fully fit
Unquestionably we'd probably all take Elliot back but no way will he drop to league one.
And I find that quite sad really. And I am not talking about coming back to us specifically. More the ".......well I spent the next six years of my career picking up a shed load of money for training with Newcastle reserves."
Equally, not knocking the money. More that a player can spend 20 years of your life learning a skill only to end up watching others do it. He's not exactly honing his skills either playing in meaningless games in the "stiffs".
Arsenal have Emiliano Martínez who's experienced in the Championship (Wolves last season) Bournemouth have Ryan Allsop who I wasnt impressed with @ Portsmouth in the Play-Offs Burnley have of course Nick Pope Leicester City have of course Ben Hamer Manchester City have Angus Gunn who's highly rated Manchester United have Sam Johnstone with loads of Football League experience yet is wanted by Aston Villa West Ham have some Swiss kid called Raphael Spiegel who has played in League Two a few times
A few of the more obvious third choice 'keepers from the Premier League sides
Think Rob Elliot is fit again and is down the pecking order at Newcastle.
Wasn't that impressed with him when he was here before but he had some good performances last season in a relegated side.
was gutted for him when he got injured as he was going to the euro's with ireland.
anyway, if Rudd goes back then i would take Robbie back all day long but, despite being 3rd/4th choice, he is quite highly thought of up there and just signed a new 4 year deal in September so not sure if they would let him go out on loan
He's recovering from injury. I expect him to be first choice there when he's fully fit
Is that the same injury that he suffered in March? If so I thought that was six months not nine!
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Bournemouth have Ryan Allsop who I wasnt impressed with @ Portsmouth in the Play-Offs
Burnley have of course Nick Pope
Leicester City have of course Ben Hamer
Manchester City have Angus Gunn who's highly rated
Manchester United have Sam Johnstone with loads of Football League experience yet is wanted by Aston Villa
West Ham have some Swiss kid called Raphael Spiegel who has played in League Two a few times
A few of the more obvious third choice 'keepers from the Premier League sides
Yes, Katrien negotiated if he plays again we'll owe Norwich £22m.
Wasn't that impressed with him when he was here before but he had some good performances last season in a relegated side.
I believe you can still make emergency loans for keepers anyway, so it's not as if we wouldn't be able to bring someone in if necessary
anyway, if Rudd goes back then i would take Robbie back all day long but, despite being 3rd/4th choice, he is quite highly thought of up there and just signed a new 4 year deal in September so not sure if they would let him go out on loan
I'm more concerned with us getting in the couple of central midfielders we desperately need.
Hr said at 25 hr wasn't happy to be second choice anymore.
He's a Norwich boy and a Norwich fan and would go back there if he was first pick.
If not we have a chance but I think we'd need to get promotion to sign him permanently.
He does the job when needed, doesn't flap and doesnt lose his head when he makes a mistake.
But we also have Philips and Mitov and there's the rub.
A long term manager would have to make a long term decision over who to keep and who to upset, what us the pipeline like for keepers so do we spend money on fees and wages if we have good ones coming through.
But we don't have a long term manager or director of football so decisions are all short term and every new managers wants their own players.
He may not get a choice in the matter, but I suspect Rudd is happy here and would happily see out the season. A good season with us will help his next move. Indeed, if we go up he'd probably want to make the deal permanent
That would have been a 'lean technicality', surely?
Equally, not knocking the money. More that a player can spend 20 years of your life learning a skill only to end up watching others do it. He's not exactly honing his skills either playing in meaningless games in the "stiffs".
http://www.cafcpicks.com/cgi-bin/drkish/display.pl?month=201611&date=20161127&time=2038.