Club Juventus 1 Coppa Italia: 1989–90 1 UEFA Cup: 1989–90
He also took Italy to the final of Euro 2000.
But yes I agree, certainly not a stellar managerial career - ticks the great player box though that's for sure.
Thanks for that BM. I took the question for what it was, "a successful manager", it didn't say "the most successful manager" as I am guessing ole smarty pants Col read it...
Clough only played a few top flight games, I don't think you can include him in the same sentence as Beckenbauer and Cryuff.
Can't think of many British ones, Dalglish and Mark Hughes? !
Beckenbauer and Cruyff managed top European clubs full of big name players, English international Clough built his teams from journeymen pros at a mid table / bottom half Division One side (Premiership), so surely that evens things out .
I was referring to his playing career. I think some people have misread the question!
They may well have done, all depends what your definition of a best player is, England Intenational was good enough for me and it was of course a two part question .
Played twice and never scored for England. I think that puts him below Francis Jeffers.
Club Juventus 1 Coppa Italia: 1989–90 1 UEFA Cup: 1989–90
He also took Italy to the final of Euro 2000.
But yes I agree, certainly not a stellar managerial career - ticks the great player box though that's for sure.
Thanks for that BM. I took the question for what it was, "a successful manager", it didn't say "the most successful manager" as I am guessing ole smarty pants Col read it...
Well not really. I mean he had an ok career as a manager but not exactly doing as good as he should have been with those teams. Hardly successful.
Clough only played a few top flight games, I don't think you can include him in the same sentence as Beckenbauer and Cryuff.
Can't think of many British ones, Dalglish and Mark Hughes? !
Beckenbauer and Cruyff managed top European clubs full of big name players, English international Clough built his teams from journeymen pros at a mid table / bottom half Division One side (Premiership), so surely that evens things out .
I was referring to his playing career. I think some people have misread the question!
They may well have done, all depends what your definition of a best player is, England Intenational was good enough for me and it was of course a two part question .
Played twice and never scored for England. I think that puts him below Francis Jeffers.
It puts him higher than your Mark Hughes and Kenny Dalglish .
Cruyff was not only successful as a manager, but also introduced the Dutch total football philosophy to Barcelona, making them what they are today. No Cruyff at Barcelona, no Guardiola.
He is possibly the third greatest player of all time, behind Pele & Maradona.
Club Juventus 1 Coppa Italia: 1989–90 1 UEFA Cup: 1989–90
He also took Italy to the final of Euro 2000.
But yes I agree, certainly not a stellar managerial career - ticks the great player box though that's for sure.
Thanks for that BM. I took the question for what it was, "a successful manager", it didn't say "the most successful manager" as I am guessing ole smarty pants Col read it...
Well not really. I mean he had an ok career as a manager but not exactly doing as good as he should have been with those teams. Hardly successful.
Cruyff was not only successful as a manager, but also introduced the Dutch total football philosophy to Barcelona, making them what they are today. No Cruyff at Barcelona, no Guardiola.
He is possibly the third greatest player of all time, behind Pele & Maradona.
That's an altogether different debate - and you're wrong ;-)
Cruyff was not only successful as a manager, but also introduced the Dutch total football philosophy to Barcelona, making them what they are today. No Cruyff at Barcelona, no Guardiola.
He is possibly the third greatest player of all time, behind Pele & Maradona.
That's an altogether different debate - and you're wrong ;-)
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1 Coppa Italia: 1989–90
1 UEFA Cup: 1989–90
But yes I agree, certainly not a stellar managerial career - ticks the great player box though that's for sure.
He is possibly the third greatest player of all time, behind Pele & Maradona.
League winner and England international
Best dancer as well.