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  • edited September 2016

    Swisdom said:

    Tex doesn't want to be here. Doubt he'll ply for us again. Costs us a fortune in wages and more if he plays

    All the player's fault as usual. Do you agree that his contract was an almighty balls up by Katrien Meire?
    It's easy to say with hindsight Airman but 4 years for a 29 year old certainly raised my eyebrows at the time. What I don't know is whether he and or his agent insisted on that deal to make it worth his while which is quite probable and she of course would have been looking at him playing a major role in keeping us up before possibly selling him on at a profit............ahem. I also don't know what promises or assurances he was spun if we were relegated. In summary a massive gamble more akin to finger in the air stuff really.
  • If Tex didn't want to be here he would want to be playing and impressing.
  • If Tex didn't want to be here he would want to be playing and impressing.

    Au contraire Mutts Parker didn't want to be here at the finish.
  • edited September 2016
    Konsa have started his 1st team career well.
    Pearce is steady and reliable.
    Despite this, i would rather see Lennon and Bauer as Centre backs in this division because there are stronger and may be able to cope with the giant strikers in this division.( Dons last Saturday ?)
    Tex have a good long contract, so it will be the normal game of bluff by owners and player/agent who panics first. Happens everywhere, look at QPR when they got relegated from Prem.
  • Parker had a bid in there for him.
  • Swisdom said:

    Tex doesn't want to be here. Doubt he'll ply for us again. Costs us a fortune in wages and more if he plays

    All the player's fault as usual. Do you agree that his contract was an almighty balls up by Katrien Meire?
    It's a strange one really. We complained we had many many players whose contracts were about to expire and all lauded the club when JGB and Cousins were snapped up on long term deals. Same applied to Tex to an extent - it was a signal of intent. The (avoidable) relegation means he is now an expensive white elephant that we can't/won't play and who costs us a fortune. You could say the same for Vetokele (though there are many other reasons his existence is a joke - not least by the way we have effectively crippled him)

    Same with Sarr - if he'd been half decent we'd have been delighted to have him tied to a 5 year contract. Sadly he's not good enough and so is just a financial burden to us.

    So in answer to your question - not an almighty balls up just a gamble that didn't work. One of many though!

  • RedChaser said:

    If Tex didn't want to be here he would want to be playing and impressing.

    Au contraire Mutts Parker didn't want to be here at the finish.
    We hardly tested Parker though, if we had refused to sell him, would he have played in February? My impression is that he would have, then without the same intensity that he would have given before the Chelsea bid. A 90% Parker would have been better than most of out other midfield options anyway!
  • RedChaser said:

    If Tex didn't want to be here he would want to be playing and impressing.

    Au contraire Mutts Parker didn't want to be here at the finish.
    We hardly tested Parker though, if we had refused to sell him, would he have played in February? My impression is that he would have, then without the same intensity that he would have given before the Chelsea bid. A 90% Parker would have been better than most of out other midfield options anyway!
    But would we have had Jerome Thomas?
  • edited September 2016
    Swisdom said:

    RedChaser said:

    If Tex didn't want to be here he would want to be playing and impressing.

    Au contraire Mutts Parker didn't want to be here at the finish.
    We hardly tested Parker though, if we had refused to sell him, would he have played in February? My impression is that he would have, then without the same intensity that he would have given before the Chelsea bid. A 90% Parker would have been better than most of out other midfield options anyway!
    The gutting thing about Parker is he was, IMO, genuinely World Class towards the end with us. He was a machine. Whilst he's made a fabulous living from the game he should have won so much more and should have got lots more England recognition.
    Going to Chelsea and Newcastle saw him step back almost to the player who went to Norwich on loan.

    Its Charlton / West Ham / Spurs who should take the overall credit for his career

    Just looked Parker up on Wiki and its actually amazing that its at Charlton where he made the most appearances!!
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  • Swisdom said:

    Swisdom said:

    Tex doesn't want to be here. Doubt he'll ply for us again. Costs us a fortune in wages and more if he plays

    All the player's fault as usual. Do you agree that his contract was an almighty balls up by Katrien Meire?
    It's a strange one really. We complained we had many many players whose contracts were about to expire and all lauded the club when JGB and Cousins were snapped up on long term deals. Same applied to Tex to an extent - it was a signal of intent. The (avoidable) relegation means he is now an expensive white elephant that we can't/won't play and who costs us a fortune. You could say the same for Vetokele (though there are many other reasons his existence is a joke - not least by the way we have effectively crippled him)

    Same with Sarr - if he'd been half decent we'd have been delighted to have him tied to a 5 year contract. Sadly he's not good enough and so is just a financial burden to us.

    So in answer to your question - not an almighty balls up just a gamble that didn't work. One of many though!

    Every player purchase is a gamble, that's for sure.

    The successful clubs are those that get it right more often than not.

    But if you see someone who keeps betting the house on the rank outsider and losing don't you at some point say "Maybe you shouldn't be in charge of the kitty anymore"
  • Swisdom said:

    Swisdom said:

    Tex doesn't want to be here. Doubt he'll ply for us again. Costs us a fortune in wages and more if he plays

    All the player's fault as usual. Do you agree that his contract was an almighty balls up by Katrien Meire?
    It's a strange one really. We complained we had many many players whose contracts were about to expire and all lauded the club when JGB and Cousins were snapped up on long term deals. Same applied to Tex to an extent - it was a signal of intent. The (avoidable) relegation means he is now an expensive white elephant that we can't/won't play and who costs us a fortune. You could say the same for Vetokele (though there are many other reasons his existence is a joke - not least by the way we have effectively crippled him)

    Same with Sarr - if he'd been half decent we'd have been delighted to have him tied to a 5 year contract. Sadly he's not good enough and so is just a financial burden to us.

    So in answer to your question - not an almighty balls up just a gamble that didn't work. One of many though!

    Every player purchase is a gamble, that's for sure.

    The successful clubs are those that get it right more often than not.

    But if you see someone who keeps betting the house on the rank outsider and losing don't you at some point say "Maybe you shouldn't be in charge of the kitty anymore"
    It has been noted that she hasn't cocked it up much since the mighty Roger Johnson debacle. A genuine WTF moment from me

  • It's not really not the same with Sarr, he had done nothing in his career to justify spending a rumoured £1.5-2m on him (a five year contract does suggest a fairly big fee). An easily avoidable mistake rather than something that just didn't work out.

    Tex was at least proven at a decent level with plenty of experience.

    Sarr had made just 9 league starts in his career despite being 21 when he joined (22 in mid August).

    http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=68405

    It's a shame his loan the January before that never went through. We would have seen he wasn't good enough and never signed him permanently.

    It's often said these players were signed based on stats but what stats would there have been? So inexperienced that he couldn't have been watched in any more than a handful of live matches. Probably mainly based on video footage. Same with Ceballos.
  • Sarr scored a Champions League goal for a biggish European team!
  • Perhaps that's the sort of stat that gets Mowgli excited.
  • Sarr is playing regularly now. If he comes back next season, and we haven't moved on Tex and Bauer we'll be seriously loaded with centre backs!
  • I'll have to put my hands up to being really excited when we signed Sarr. From the outside it looked like we were nicking a promising youngster from a top European club who had played and scored in the Champions League for a sizeable fee
  • edited September 2016

    Parker had a bid in there for him.

    There must have been enquiries for Tex I would have thought but his price, personal terms or both probably to high.
  • edited September 2016

    RedChaser said:

    If Tex didn't want to be here he would want to be playing and impressing.

    Au contraire Mutts Parker didn't want to be here at the finish.
    We hardly tested Parker though, if we had refused to sell him, would he have played in February? My impression is that he would have, then without the same intensity that he would have given before the Chelsea bid. A 90% Parker would have been better than most of out other midfield options anyway!
    Not denying any of this my point was that players can and do refuse to play if they can't get a move that ticks all the boxes as opposed to trying their hardest to impress a would be new club. Just look at Rojo at Wolves of someone just happy to sit tight as a classic example, not saying Tex is of his ilk, far from it.
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  • Scoham said:

    Think we're less likely to see Pearce and Lennon together given they're both left footed.

    This is true. Shame coz I really rate Harry after watching him a fair bit at the Gills last season. I've posted before about how he held the defence together and they really struggled once he left.

    I was hoping he would get a full season with us in league one and really come into his own and show what he can do. Pearce arriving and his injury having unfortunate timing, has stopped that from happening. But it seems to me Russell rates him so I'm sure we will see him at some point.
  • Swisdom said:

    Swisdom said:

    Tex doesn't want to be here. Doubt he'll ply for us again. Costs us a fortune in wages and more if he plays

    All the player's fault as usual. Do you agree that his contract was an almighty balls up by Katrien Meire?
    It's a strange one really. We complained we had many many players whose contracts were about to expire and all lauded the club when JGB and Cousins were snapped up on long term deals. Same applied to Tex to an extent - it was a signal of intent. The (avoidable) relegation means he is now an expensive white elephant that we can't/won't play and who costs us a fortune. You could say the same for Vetokele (though there are many other reasons his existence is a joke - not least by the way we have effectively crippled him)

    Same with Sarr - if he'd been half decent we'd have been delighted to have him tied to a 5 year contract. Sadly he's not good enough and so is just a financial burden to us.

    So in answer to your question - not an almighty balls up just a gamble that didn't work. One of many though!

    Teixeira must have thought all his Christmas's had come at once when he signed the contract.

    We were virtually relegated when we signed him and he is on a contract that suggests he'll happily sit on his bum for another four years as we're struggling to shift him.

    This signing was bad as the Polish fella.
  • He did a good job for us though I thought. Was clearly a high end Championship centre half. Not great for Roland's pockets but what do we care about that. Having him in the squad at this level should be fantastic for Russell Slade and us. The problem is, Bauer and Tex are our best centre backs by a long way. Not saying the others aren't decent but that is a fact.
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