Season ticket holder and wont be protesting. Have no objection to those that do and object to those who think I am an apologist for the regime. The team is ok. The manager is good. There is some fight in this team and I want to enjoy a game of football. If that makes me less of a fan then so be it. There are many like me and I am not persuaded that protesting now is appropriate or with real purpose. To want someone to go is different from wanting something positive to occur like a change of philosophy about how to run the club . I would prefer a campaign to promote the latter than a protest to promote the former. I know this is not what people want to read but so be it.
Fair enough and there are a few like yourself but I don't agree with you. This is the problem we face as a fanbase there is now a split. If there are many like you why do you then go on to say ' I know this is not what people want to read ' ?
Arguing the rights / wrongs for the 1,000th time won't really get us anywhere.
All that has to be known is that if its for you, then there is opportunity to come together before the game and collectively and peacefully protest against those that own / run the club. If it's not for you, then stay in the pub or walk straight past.
If you do resonate in any way at all with it, then please do turn up and lend your support if you can
The scale of what people think is acceptable change will vary from individual to individual. For me, it will never feel like Charlton now whilst that women remains running the club, regardless of what players and managers her paymaster decides to give us now or in the future. Too much dislike has been built up over the last 18 months that I'm just not able to flip flop like quite a few seem to be able to do. For others, it might be something different.
Sadly I think it is now obvious that Roland is going nowhere until he gets bored or gets an amazing offer and that the protests have little effect on him.
Season ticket holder and wont be protesting. Have no objection to those that do and object to those who think I am an apologist for the regime. The team is ok. The manager is good. There is some fight in this team and I want to enjoy a game of football. If that makes me less of a fan then so be it. There are many like me and I am not persuaded that protesting now is appropriate or with real purpose. To want someone to go is different from wanting something positive to occur like a change of philosophy about how to run the club . I would prefer a campaign to promote the latter than a protest to promote the former. I know this is not what people want to read but so be it.
Fair enough, no one is forcing anyone to protest, boycott or not have season tickets. For me the protesting is not about results and never was. It's about the destruction and complete disregard for the fabric of the club. These owners need to go. I believe we have the players and managers we have now because of the protests not in spite of them as some try and spin it. I believe we have a squad that is reasonably competitive for League One, nothing more. They could have done a lot more player-wise due to their complete cock-up which put us in this position. Sooner or later their lack of ambition and arrogance will surface again. There is no long term future in RD and KM and I am still none the wiser as to why they own us. No-one is chucking stuff on the pitch and the games and team have been almost entirely left alone, again some would have you believe otherwise. CARD keep within the law and the general mood of the fans and are a focal point, everyone makes their own mind up and you are free to take on board their suggestions or not.
As a lapsed season ticket holder after 25+ years and supporter of 50+ years, I won't be at the game nor will I pay another penny towards whatever aims this particular ownership have. The performances on the pitch are secondary to me although I obviously want the red shirts to win be it the first team, the reserves or the ladies. The whole ethos has changed and what has gone on off the pitch is more important to me. The foundation of our club has always been the supporters and for them to come along and trample all over supporters as well as club employees is unforgivable in my eyes and 3 points week in week out won't change that. I'm not vain enough to think I'll be missed and I'm sure there are plenty of supporters saying "You call yourself a fan" then sobeit. After years of making excuses not miss a game, I've found myself a life outside of the Valley and thoroughly enjoying it too, sadly at my age I don't think I'll ever attend a match at The Valley again. I'll support CARD and the protests in whatever shape or form they take, smarter people than me are making the right decisions in my eyes in whatever shape the protest take. To those that attend the I would ask just one thing "Get behind the boys and make some noise" *copyright @BDL*
The fanbase is now very clearly split between those who want to 'support the team' and those who want the owners out. The first group have seemingly begun praising the board for buying us a few English players and telling us still unhappy to stop moaning and support the lads. I believe we have a team very capable of top two and top six at a minimum, but we wouldn't be here if it wasn't for these cretins running the club. I will not be happy with Duchatalet until we've made progress, no, not getting promoted this year but finishing 9th or above in the Championship. I cannot believe Duchatalet has had a change in heart while Meire is still in charge, he could win back a fair few people by getting rid of her but continues to persist with her which is baffling. The 'support the team' brigade call those who aren't going to The Valley 'so called fans' and the ones who stay away are calling them the same thing. If not giving a penny more to this lot makes me a lesser fan then so it must be. I was at Cheltenham, was at Walsall, will be at Oxford and hopefully Gillingham too. In the end we're all Charlton fans and we all want the same thing, no fan going or not going is any lesser to me. Nothing will make me happier than an Addicks win at 5 o clock but it does seem hollow when Meire can take the credit for it.
Season ticket holder and wont be protesting. Have no objection to those that do and object to those who think I am an apologist for the regime. The team is ok. The manager is good. There is some fight in this team and I want to enjoy a game of football. If that makes me less of a fan then so be it. There are many like me and I am not persuaded that protesting now is appropriate or with real purpose. To want someone to go is different from wanting something positive to occur like a change of philosophy about how to run the club . I would prefer a campaign to promote the latter than a protest to promote the former. I know this is not what people want to read but so be it.
You might be in the minority on here but if you were to look at the coments elsewhere you would be in the majority.
For me one of the sadest things is that this regime has totally divided the fans
Let's just make sure they do not divide and conquer. This is a fight we must win
Season ticket holder and wont be protesting. Have no objection to those that do and object to those who think I am an apologist for the regime. The team is ok. The manager is good. There is some fight in this team and I want to enjoy a game of football. If that makes me less of a fan then so be it. There are many like me and I am not persuaded that protesting now is appropriate or with real purpose. To want someone to go is different from wanting something positive to occur like a change of philosophy about how to run the club . I would prefer a campaign to promote the latter than a protest to promote the former. I know this is not what people want to read but so be it.
That's your view and you're entitled to it but what do you say to the person who posted this?
"Support the team not the regime. We are the club, they are the custodians and the team are the employees. Sod the custodians but support the employees. We are the club."
The fanbase is now very clearly split between those who want to 'support the team' and those who want the owners out. The first group have seemingly begun praising the board for buying us a few English players and telling us still unhappy to stop moaning and support the lads. I believe we have a team very capable of top two and top six at a minimum, but we wouldn't be here if it wasn't for these cretins running the club. I will not be happy with Duchatalet until we've made progress, no, not getting promoted this year but finishing 9th or above in the Championship. I cannot believe Duchatalet has had a change in heart while Meire is still in charge, he could win back a fair few people by getting rid of her but continues to persist with her which is baffling. The 'support the team' brigade call those who aren't going to The Valley 'so called fans' and the ones who stay away are calling them the same thing. If not giving a penny more to this lot makes me a lesser fan then so it must be. I was at Cheltenham, was at Walsall, will be at Oxford and hopefully Gillingham too. In the end we're all Charlton fans and we all want the same thing, no fan going or not going is any lesser to me. Nothing will make me happier than an Addicks win at 5 o clock but it does seem hollow when Meire can take the credit for it.
There is mixed opinion and the situation is complicated. I don't think it is helpful or correct to say that all those who attend don't want the owners out as well. Neither helpful in lumping people into brigades.
All Charlton supporters support the team and want a victory or we wouldn't be Charlton supporters ?
BTW as it stands I definitely don't think that this is a top 2 team or even a top 6 team due to the midfield and lack of depth. Slade talks a good game and the lessening of the influence of that Drieson idiot is good but the team / squad is still undercooked. It is great having so many decent defenders but if they are not being protected by a decent midfield then the team will concede.
in any case, there's clearly a diversity of opinion on whether to attend or not. Also a wide diversity of opinion in the ground. There are very few Duchatelet / Meire believers and that's mostly in the SMT and a few hangers on. Meire would love to equate as all those attending as supportive of Duchatelet's rubbish. We need to avoid that trap.
The black and white protest (shirts & scarves) is a good one as alongside the empty seats of those boycotting, it evidences to Meire & wider media that support for her & Duchatelet's crap plan and way of running the club is not universal, even from those attending.
No-one's going to be hitting each other. 98% want the Regime gone even if they don't all feel motivated enough to protest and some may resent protestors with a holier-than-though attitude. I will be protesting and avoiding club food outlets etc. However, if you want to buy a pint and a pie, that's your choice. I realise that my action won't break Roland Duchatelet and that yours won't give him the final incentive to stay on. What is certain, is that he will leave and that the protestors will have played their part in his decision to go whenever he chooses to finally shuffle off.
Season ticket holder and wont be protesting. Have no objection to those that do and object to those who think I am an apologist for the regime. The team is ok. The manager is good. There is some fight in this team and I want to enjoy a game of football. If that makes me less of a fan then so be it. There are many like me and I am not persuaded that protesting now is appropriate or with real purpose. To want someone to go is different from wanting something positive to occur like a change of philosophy about how to run the club . I would prefer a campaign to promote the latter than a protest to promote the former. I know this is not what people want to read but so be it.
You are perfectly entitled to your view and I know that it is one shared by many others. However, I feel that the only reason that we now have a manager with some knowledge of this league is that the protests last season rattled Roland's and Katrien's cages. We know, because they have told us, that their ambitions for Charlton are extremely limited, that they don't care about our history, that fans who believe that they should have a voice about the running of the club are weird etc, etc. This hasn't changed.What they have done is to hire a PR company to prevent Katrien sticking her foot in her mouth so often and to organise carefully controlled meetings with compliant supporters groups so that they can claim that they are consulting the fans. If they feel that the protests have gone away they will return to hiring Network managers using players chosen by teenage Belgian nerds.
The fanbase is now very clearly split between those who want to 'support the team' and those who want the owners out.
Let blow another myth out the water.
Those who want the owners out support the team just as much as those that don't really give a s**t. Probably more so in most cases.
No idea how this myth has been allowed to grow into some kind of fact, but you get the bizarre scenario of someone sitting at home on their phone accusing someone of wanting the owner out of not supporting the team, when that individual has just made a 500 mile round trip to 'support the team'!
Arguing the rights / wrongs for the 1,000th time won't really get us anywhere.
All that has to be known is that if its for you, then there is opportunity to come together before the game and collectively and peacefully protest against those that own / run the club. If it's not for you, then stay in the pub or walk straight past.
If you do resonate in any way at all with it, then please do turn up and lend your support if you can
The scale of what people think is acceptable change will vary from individual to individual. For me, it will never feel like Charlton now whilst that women remains running the club, regardless of what players and managers her paymaster decides to give us now or in the future. Too much dislike has been built up over the last 18 months that I'm just not able to flip flop like quite a few seem to be able to do. For others, it might be something different.
This.
I had a ticket for today but I woke with a stomach upset and having had related surgery recently I really couldn't chance going. Instead of feeling gutted at missing out I find myself not bothered at all which is sad considering I've missed about ten home games in twenty seasons and haven't gone yet this season. That is what they have done to me. I will go soon but until they have sold up and gone my heart isn't in it.
its "valley gold day" saturday so obviously the protestors dont support valley gold either - funny how whenever a protest is planned the witch arranges some sort of day.
Other than the skin colour, the similarities are incredible!
I must admit to be slightly confused. Surely the aim for all fans is to have "our charlton" back - ie a good club, run well, in the premier league, community enjoying it etc etc. If that is he case then there is no divide, only a divide in how to get there. It does frustrate me that many say they will only return if RD leaves. If he realises the error of his ways then him or another owner makes no difference. I understand those who say he will ever change, but that's not necessarily true - look at Mike Ashley. Or am I wrong - if RD did change to exactly what we want - will you still stay away (cut off nose...) the protests do appear to have got progress - English manager, English players. We still have a way to go but I think we are less divided than people think. We want our charlton back no matter who owns it.
Cambridge - although we might agree with your sentiment, most of us do not believe he will ever change. Basically we don't and never will trust him or his sidekicks. He continues to show no ambition with coninued disinvestment in the team. An ambition of being competitive in League 1 with an outside chance of promotion. Surely we can aim for better than this. The main point is that continue to be dimissive, insulting and antaganistic to the majority of our fanbase.
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All that has to be known is that if its for you, then there is opportunity to come together before the game and collectively and peacefully protest against those that own / run the club. If it's not for you, then stay in the pub or walk straight past.
If you do resonate in any way at all with it, then please do turn up and lend your support if you can
The scale of what people think is acceptable change will vary from individual to individual. For me, it will never feel like Charlton now whilst that women remains running the club, regardless of what players and managers her paymaster decides to give us now or in the future. Too much dislike has been built up over the last 18 months that I'm just not able to flip flop like quite a few seem to be able to do. For others, it might be something different.
Just don't know what the answer is
For me one of the sadest things is that this regime has totally divided the fans
Let's just make sure they do not divide and conquer. This is a fight we must win
"Support the team not the regime. We are the club, they are the custodians and the team are the employees. Sod the custodians but support the employees. We are the club."
All Charlton supporters support the team and want a victory or we wouldn't be Charlton supporters ?
BTW as it stands I definitely don't think that this is a top 2 team or even a top 6 team due to the midfield and lack of depth. Slade talks a good game and the lessening of the influence of that Drieson idiot is good but the team / squad is still undercooked. It is great having so many decent defenders but if they are not being protected by a decent midfield then the team will concede.
in any case, there's clearly a diversity of opinion on whether to attend or not. Also a wide diversity of opinion in the ground. There are very few Duchatelet / Meire believers and that's mostly in the SMT and a few hangers on. Meire would love to equate as all those attending as supportive of Duchatelet's rubbish. We need to avoid that trap.
The black and white protest (shirts & scarves) is a good one as alongside the empty seats of those boycotting, it evidences to Meire & wider media that support for her & Duchatelet's crap plan and way of running the club is not universal, even from those attending.
No-one's going to be hitting each other. 98% want the Regime gone even if they don't all feel motivated enough to protest and some may resent protestors with a holier-than-though attitude. I will be protesting and avoiding club food outlets etc. However, if you want to buy a pint and a pie, that's your choice. I realise that my action won't break Roland Duchatelet and that yours won't give him the final incentive to stay on. What is certain, is that he will leave and that the protestors will have played their part in his decision to go whenever he chooses to finally shuffle off.
Those who want the owners out support the team just as much as those that don't really give a s**t. Probably more so in most cases.
No idea how this myth has been allowed to grow into some kind of fact, but you get the bizarre scenario of someone sitting at home on their phone accusing someone of wanting the owner out of not supporting the team, when that individual has just made a 500 mile round trip to 'support the team'!
#notapennymore
I had a ticket for today but I woke with a stomach upset and having had related surgery recently I really couldn't chance going. Instead of feeling gutted at missing out I find myself not bothered at all which is sad considering I've missed about ten home games in twenty seasons and haven't gone yet this season. That is what they have done to me. I will go soon but until they have sold up and gone my heart isn't in it.
An ambition of being competitive in League 1 with an outside chance of promotion. Surely we can aim for better than this.
The main point is that continue to be dimissive, insulting and antaganistic to the majority of our fanbase.