As Henry says, that's a shocking turnout out of 6,300 for a popular new manager at The Valley if accurate. Did they force the staff to make up the numbers? Welling could probably get that many out at PVR.
No reflection on Slade. Not his fault if they don't know what they are doing.
Someone filmed a good 20 mins of it live on the fb group... it seemed to go pretty well. Slade and 'Nuge' both gave a good insight into things behind the scenes. Slade once again pretty critical of the setup when he arrived. Got a big cheer for sayomg something along the lines of 'when I arrived we weren't starting from zero, things were so bad we were starting from way below zero'. Cracked a few jokes, didn't respond to the suggestion Johnson is a bad influence. The narrative is still very much 'we're making good progress in all areas but we have a way to go yet'.
Someone filmed a good 20 mins of it live on the fb group... it seemed to go pretty well. Slade and 'Nuge' both gave a good insight into things behind the scenes. Slade once again pretty critical of the setup when he arrived. Got a big cheer for sayomg something along the lines of 'when I arrived we weren't starting from zero, things were so bad we were starting from way below zero'. Cracked a few jokes, didn't respond to the suggestion Johnson is a bad influence. The narrative is still very much 'we're making good progress in all areas but we have a way to go yet'.
Ohh and Kashi is in Paris for 'conservative rehab' will take him a while to get back but he is with the best experts.. again he was very critical of the way historical injuries were handled.
Tex is recovering from his mysterious injuries... but has missed so much of preseason will take him a while to get up to fitness will play for the u21s until ready. I interpreted what he said to mean we will see him once or twice before he leaves in Jan.
Ba is recovering from a combination of a couple of small injuries and an illness. He is training with the u21s. He will need to prove the desire is still there and that he wants to play for Charlton. I took this to mean we won't see him again....
Someone filmed a good 20 mins of it live on the fb group... it seemed to go pretty well. Slade and 'Nuge' both gave a good insight into things behind the scenes. Slade once again pretty critical of the setup when he arrived. Got a big cheer for sayomg something along the lines of 'when I arrived we weren't starting from zero, things were so bad we were starting from way below zero'. Cracked a few jokes, didn't respond to the suggestion Johnson is a bad influence. The narrative is still very much 'we're making good progress in all areas but we have a way to go yet'.
Ohh and Kashi is in Paris for 'conservative rehab' will take him a while to get back but he is with the best experts.. again he was very critical of the way historical injuries were handled.
Tex is recovering from his mysterious injuries... but has missed so much of preseason will take him a while to get up to fitness will play for the u21s until ready. I interpreted what he said to mean we will see him once or twice before he leaves in Jan.
Ba is recovering from a combination of a couple of small injuries and an illness. He is training with the u21s. He will need to prove the desire is still there and that he wants to play for Charlton. I took this to mean we won't see him again....
Cheers... Definitely sounds like Kashi and Tex are in the reckoning whilst Ba will train with the U21s before definitely going in January
It was an interesting, in some ways illuminating and generally positive event. Some 'pressing' questions were asked- and reasonable (to my ears) answers given, including a mention of Thomas Driesen (!!) ("I am aware of him, he's got more hair than me!" was the RS reply!). Perhaps more later, unless anyone else contributes in the meantime! The first half-hour was a slide presentation on matchday preparation, stats, etc, which was (a) well done (IMHO) and (b) a comprehensive overview of available data. RS also said that (stating the obvious, but showing he is aware) "some players are better at absorbing and understanding the data than others", and that players are only shown selective data, not flooded with it- and that there is practical/video back-up.
Thanks for the snippets everyone. I received the email (at very short notice) and applied out of respect to Slade. The circular stated that numbers would be "limited" but I heard nothing back. Maybe our names were vetted for any disparaging comments made during the season ticket renewal calls!
The meet the manager event was posted on the official site last week. Too short notice I would say, but none the less it was there.
Normally I post these sort of things on CL, but with the continuing OTT negativity by far too many posters, about every single little thing, I didn’t bother, which is a great shame.
Anyway, on to the evening, which was very enjoyable. I’m not sure how many were there, but somewhere between 100-150 I’d say.
Slade did most of the talking and Nugent a little. It was only those two, introduced by Keith Peacock.
The first half hour was taken up with Slade presenting a slideshow, showing everything that goes on re the squad & Academy squad. Stats for all the opposition and all our players. Stats on literally everything. Brilliant, but perhaps too many stats. Anyway, a thoroughly professional set up. Steve Head is doing the opposition scouting and there was no mention of this changing. He’s assisted by about 8 part timers I think.
I asked about Tex, Ba & Kashi and as said above, Kashi has a long term achilles injury, which hopefully won’t need an operation, but can take so long to heal. One of ours had gone out to see him in Paris the day before, where he is recuperating.
Tex is apparently still struggling with an injury carry over from last season and although has now started training, he is way way behind. I get the distinct impression that Slade was saying in the most subtle way possible, he won’t be figuring much. Personally, I think he may figure in say November so he’s match fit to move on in January & Konsa would need a rest by then in any case.
I asked whether Ba had been ill or injured and Slade said a bit of both. He said he’s got to want to play for the club, so I believe it’s unlikely we will see him again.
Slade loves Pearce, so I’d say he will be 1st choice CH & either Konsa or Bauer would be alongside.
Slade’s content with the midfield, did want to bring in another wide player and Louis Thompson.
Although he agreed Foley passes backwards too much & Crofts perhaps a touch, he still feels Ajose has had more than enough chances and it’s more a case of Ajose not being at his best, than lack of supply.
I feel Ajose, Magennis and Novak will be rotated and I can see Novak starting soon.
Slade did have a Championship club after him as well as us, but he chose us. He didn’t name the other club, but I’d guess it was Rotherham or another club oop north.
As said above, Slade said he started from lower than zero and we’re “getting there”.
The players had no start date to return after the summer break and weren’t given any proper regime to follow in the summer, with no proper medical staff for those that required it, such as Diarra, Lennon, Tex, Ba. Although the first two were mentioned first, which is another reason why I think the second two aren’t in Slade’s plans.
Slade would like our fans to give the opposition a hard time and would like them “snarling” at the oppo as they come out of the tunnel.
We’re basically aiming for 2 points per game on average & this is looked at on a monthly basis. So we got 8 from 5 games in August, which Slade put down to us being under prepared for the 1st game & lost as a consequence.
The aim is for a top 6 finish minimum and preferably top 2.
He said if we don’t achieve promotion this season, then we should be in a position, to be much more certain next season.
He feels the top 3 if not us could be Bolton, Scunthorpe and Sheff U. The likes of Bolton & Scunthorpe have an advantage over us, because the squads have been together, for much longer than ours and we are still gelling.
Anyway, on the strength of last night I’d rate Slade 10/10. Thoroughly professional, honest, caring, a sense of humour etc. He seems a perfect fit for Charlton & I hope he brings us success.
Damn as someone who likes to use stats a lot myself I'd have loved to have been there to see how the preparation goes into matches (that sort of this really intrigues me)... Seems bat crap crazy that the players didnt have a regime to follow over the summer and hats off to Morgan Fox (only one who's remained) for ensuring he did something over the summer
Interesting remarks in regards to Nicky Ajose as well... Makes me wonder if we'll see him against Wimbledon with Lee Novak making an appearance from the bench for minutes and then against Scunthorpe I wonder if we'll play Novak and Magennis (Unless of course Ajose has a worldy)
Do the club have a strategy for fans not on twitter or Facebook?
Wasn't the club. Was some guy who was there.. was filing Russell between two guys heads with a very shakes hand... sound quality was good though.
Fair enough. Mind you my understanding is the invites were on twitter, might have that wrong though.
You have this wrong as the club sent out emails on the 13th September. So if you are not a season ticket holder and have removed yourself from club communications you wouldn't have got it.
'The aim is for a top 6 finish minimum and preferably top 2.
He said if we don’t achieve promotion this season, then we should be in a position, to be much more certain next season.'
anything less than promotion is failure. Thanks for the write up though.
Sort the defence out. Looks wobbly and poor.
Doesn't really though does it?
Name a team in league one with a better defensive selection than us, with Solly, Foley, Konsa, Pearce, Bauer, Lennon, Teixeira, Johnson, Fox, Chicksen all in our ranks. Of the goals we have conceded so far they have either been from set pieces (IMO a training and tactical thing more than individual players) or mistakes from midfield.
If you said the midfield looks poor, then I'd agree, but our defence is the least of our concerns
Normally I post these sort of things on CL, but with the continuing OTT negativity by far too many posters, about every single little thing, I didn’t bother, which is a great shame.
That should say: " from far too many posters on here"
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No reflection on Slade. Not his fault if they don't know what they are doing.
Tex is recovering from his mysterious injuries... but has missed so much of preseason will take him a while to get up to fitness will play for the u21s until ready. I interpreted what he said to mean we will see him once or twice before he leaves in Jan.
Ba is recovering from a combination of a couple of small injuries and an illness. He is training with the u21s. He will need to prove the desire is still there and that he wants to play for Charlton. I took this to mean we won't see him again....
Mind you my understanding is the invites were on twitter, might have that wrong though.
Normally I post these sort of things on CL, but with the continuing OTT negativity by far too many posters, about every single little thing, I didn’t bother, which is a great shame.
Anyway, on to the evening, which was very enjoyable. I’m not sure how many were there, but somewhere between 100-150 I’d say.
Slade did most of the talking and Nugent a little. It was only those two, introduced by Keith Peacock.
The first half hour was taken up with Slade presenting a slideshow, showing everything that goes on re the squad & Academy squad. Stats for all the opposition and all our players. Stats on literally everything. Brilliant, but perhaps too many stats.
Anyway, a thoroughly professional set up. Steve Head is doing the opposition scouting and there was no mention of this changing. He’s assisted by about 8 part timers I think.
I asked about Tex, Ba & Kashi and as said above, Kashi has a long term achilles injury, which hopefully won’t need an operation, but can take so long to heal. One of ours had gone out to see him in Paris the day before, where he is recuperating.
Tex is apparently still struggling with an injury carry over from last season and although has now started training, he is way way behind. I get the distinct impression that Slade was saying in the most subtle way possible, he won’t be figuring much.
Personally, I think he may figure in say November so he’s match fit to move on in January & Konsa would need a rest by then in any case.
I asked whether Ba had been ill or injured and Slade said a bit of both. He said he’s got to want to play for the club, so I believe it’s unlikely we will see him again.
Slade loves Pearce, so I’d say he will be 1st choice CH & either Konsa or Bauer would be alongside.
Slade’s content with the midfield, did want to bring in another wide player and Louis Thompson.
Although he agreed Foley passes backwards too much & Crofts perhaps a touch, he still feels Ajose has had more than enough chances and it’s more a case of Ajose not being at his best, than lack of supply.
I feel Ajose, Magennis and Novak will be rotated and I can see Novak starting soon.
Slade did have a Championship club after him as well as us, but he chose us. He didn’t name the other club, but I’d guess it was Rotherham or another club oop north.
As said above, Slade said he started from lower than zero and we’re “getting there”.
The players had no start date to return after the summer break and weren’t given any proper regime to follow in the summer, with no proper medical staff for those that required it, such as Diarra, Lennon, Tex, Ba. Although the first two were mentioned first, which is another reason why I think the second two aren’t in Slade’s plans.
Slade would like our fans to give the opposition a hard time and would like them “snarling” at the oppo as they come out of the tunnel.
We’re basically aiming for 2 points per game on average & this is looked at on a monthly basis. So we got 8 from 5 games in August, which Slade put down to us being under prepared for the 1st game & lost as a consequence.
The aim is for a top 6 finish minimum and preferably top 2.
He said if we don’t achieve promotion this season, then we should be in a position, to be much more certain next season.
He feels the top 3 if not us could be Bolton, Scunthorpe and Sheff U. The likes of Bolton & Scunthorpe have an advantage over us, because the squads have been together, for much longer than ours and we are still gelling.
Anyway, on the strength of last night I’d rate Slade 10/10. Thoroughly professional, honest, caring, a sense of humour etc. He seems a perfect fit for Charlton & I hope he brings us success.
Maybe that was just the pressure of the transfer window and dealing with KM during that time.
Hopefully we can kick on under his guidance.
Interesting remarks in regards to Nicky Ajose as well... Makes me wonder if we'll see him against Wimbledon with Lee Novak making an appearance from the bench for minutes and then against Scunthorpe I wonder if we'll play Novak and Magennis (Unless of course Ajose has a worldy)
Views on the squad (watch out Cawley and Mendez)
He said if we don’t achieve promotion this season, then we should be in a position, to be much more certain next season.'
anything less than promotion is failure. Thanks for the write up though.
From a man that's never achieved promotion before as a manager of, 23 years? Is that right?
Now I've got my sarcy negative side out the way.
Good luck Russ. We have started rather averagely, but have only lost once.
1st things 1st. If we are serious about promotion.
Sort the defence out. Looks wobbly and poor.
Name a team in league one with a better defensive selection than us, with Solly, Foley, Konsa, Pearce, Bauer, Lennon, Teixeira, Johnson, Fox, Chicksen all in our ranks. Of the goals we have conceded so far they have either been from set pieces (IMO a training and tactical thing more than individual players) or mistakes from midfield.
If you said the midfield looks poor, then I'd agree, but our defence is the least of our concerns
Not a dig at you Covered End, by the way. I like Slade, based on what I hear privately as well as what's in the public domain.
When asked if he really had any say on transfers, he said "If I don't want them, we don't sign them..."
That should say: " from far too many posters on here"
Just kidding - thanks for the update.
However he will always be working with his hands tied behind his back while this regime remains IMO.