Lookie's views are the closest to the way I'm currently feeling.
I hate this regime with all my heart - the one I always wear on my sleeve.
I love this club with all my heart but the soul has been ripped out of it leaving a shell not too far off being empty.
I tell myself & others that I DO support the team but as I've posted recently, I fear it's becoming more difficult to do so under the poisonous stewardship of RD & KM.
The number of different players that have passed through the tunnel onto the hallowed turf over the past 30 months has been unprecedented. As someone who is not the biggest fan of change in general, this in itself has been a challenge...Like most fans, managers and indeed teams themselves I would imagine, I long for a settled group of players from which the matchday squad is selected.
Familiarity can, of course, breed contempt but on the whole, at least for me, I need to "know" my players and at the very least, to recognise them ! I want to like & respect them for the effort they give week after week, and to feel they in turn want to perform for me - careful !
Sadly, I feel further adrift from the current squad than ever & it hurts to admit it. These lads will have to earn my respect, my admiration and maybe that's the way it should be. All I can say at present is that I WANT to give them my support; I WANT to be positive but I found it difficult to be upbeat, loud & proud at Bury last Saturday and I didn't enjoy the experience.
This is NOT the Charlton I have followed & loved for the past 50 years through thick & thin. I can take the lows because inevitably they don't last forever.
What I am finding SO hard to swallow is the current low because I fear for the eventual outcome.
And a future without this dear old club doesn't bear thinking about.
I agree with SHG, the IRRATIONAL AND UNFAIR negativity on here is really getting me down.
Let's give praise where it's due (not much around admittedly) and let's criticise where it's due.
I despise RD & Meire as much as anyone on here and have contributed more to the demonstrations than many I would suggest. However, we do ourselves no favours by criticising absolutely everything, if it is not justified.
Slade being called a yes man, when he has quite clearly spoken out against what's gone on, is wrong imo.
Johnson swears at our fans, totally out of order and he should make a statement of apology to the fans & possibly fined. But sack him ? Score him 1/10 on his match performance ? Double standards here I feel. If Jackson or Solly had sworn at the fans (and I know people will say they wouldn't, but anyone can lose their temper), would fans have been calling for their sacking ?
I could give more instances, but it would be pointless.
The point is as protestors against the regime, we will lose support from the non protestors and also from the football world, if we are going to become petty and vindictive, over every little thing, when it is not justified.
Personally, I've been challenged myself by some for not criticising every single little thing.
No doubt I'll get flack for this, but I'm saying it how it is.
We need to protest and complain when it is appropriate and take a deep breath when it isn't.
I don't doubt I'll get stick for this and if I do it will prove to me, that what I'm saying is correct.
I'll be honest I'm jealous and f**ked off with the apologists who seem to float through this pile of shit of a club we have become I know no one loves this club more than me , I've risked life , limb ,marriage etc for this club and the pain and gut wrenching shitness that we are going through now is breaking my heart And yes I feel so negative towards these joke owners and a promotion wouldn't change this at all I really hate the way I feel about it , it hurts beyond a joke I'm beyond gutted with how I feel so bollox to positiveness with these f***tards in charge
Sorry for the blathering but a dozen pints at the Oval today means I can't pretend this situation is not a nightmare
Fuck positivity these cnuts have worn me down. I hate them with a passion and hate what we have become as a club. Like oohahh above charlton have dictated a lot of my life as they have always come first. Now when we lose I don't go be a fuck. Fuck you Katrien you vile bitch. Fuck you Roland you shit faced scum bag.
Fuck positivity these cnuts have worn me down. I hate them with a passion and hate what we have become as a club. Like oohahh above charlton have dictated a lot of my life as they have always come first. Now when we lose I don't go be a fuck. Fuck you Katrien you vile bitch. Fuck you Roland you shit faced scum bag.
Still, on a positive note, only a couple more weeks before you can go back to influencing our lovely Primary School children.
And if you put Charlton before family, as you state in your post, you really need to have a long look at yourself.
This Forum, like any community on the internet or otherwise, is what we make it. Contribute in such a way that steers it in the direction you'd like to see. It's a diverse community and opinions won't always align; it can help to take a step back.
People are angry, not because of individual decisions, but because they've seen hundreds of poor decisions accumulate, such that we are where we are. I think it's impossible to "get behind the boys" when the decision makers who brought those particular boys here continue to make decisions that only erode our situation further.
These are the decision makers who made decisions to sell the "boys" that were once here, many of whom should still be here, who decided to hire Slade only after making a balls up of the entire hiring process, who have made a balls up of sponsorship sales, and ticket sales, who have dismissed competent staff to replace them with incompetents, when they've been replaced at all, who have rather comically hired staff who then resigned rather than suffer further humiliation in untenable positions, who have created innovative forms of cruel and unusual punishment to alienate lifelong supporters and have turned the match day experience into a veritable battleground. They are continuing and will continue to make the situation worse.
People are complaining about signings because when it looks like deficiencies are addressed, new ones are created. The same mistake of understaffing, so to speak, is being made yet again!
The Charlton Athletic that is worth supporting is on life support, in a coma. The Belgian "doctors" that put it there are now presiding over it's resuscitation. Someone's just dropped your baby on it's head, picked it up again and said "Stand back... it's okay. I've got this!" before tossing it in the air again. That is madness. The owner has to go so that the healing can begin.
We have to make the club unmanageable under this owner. We have to show support for the Charlton Athletic we want to be again, not the stand in. Focussing on anything else is a distraction. Personally, "Support the team, not the regime" has outlived it's usefulness: our support didn't stave off relegation. We've in a different place and need to recalibrate accordingly.
I support CARD and any supporters organising to hasten Roland's departure and I'd humbly suggest using Charlton Life to do the same. We'll try and set the perimeters for acceptable behaviour, as we've always done, but people need to be the change they want to see. I'm proud that it can be used to organise and effect the end of Roland's experiment.
This Forum, like any community on the internet or otherwise, is what we make it. Contribute in such a way that steers it in the direction you'd like to see. It's a diverse community and opinions won't always align; it can help to take a step back.
People are angry, not because of individual decisions, but because they've seen hundreds of poor decisions accumulate, such that we are where we are. I think it's impossible to "get behind the boys" when the decision makers who brought those particular boys here continue to make decisions that only erode our situation further.
These are the decision makers who made decisions to sell the "boys" that were once here, many of whom should still be here, who decided to hire Slade only after making a balls up of the entire hiring process, who have made a balls up of sponsorship sales, and ticket sales, who have dismissed competent staff to replace them with incompetents, when they've been replaced at all, who have rather comically hired staff who then resigned rather than suffer further humiliation in untenable positions, who have created innovative forms of cruel and unusual punishment to alienate lifelong supporters and have turned the match day experience into a veritable battleground. They are continuing and will continue to make the situation worse.
People are complaining about signings because when it looks like deficiencies are addressed, new ones are created. The same mistake of understaffing, so to speak, is being made yet again!
The Charlton Athletic that is worth supporting is on life support, in a coma. The Belgian "doctors" that put it there are now presiding over it's resuscitation. Someone's just dropped your baby on it's head, picked it up again and said "Stand back... it's okay. I've got this!" before tossing it in the air again. That is madness. The owner has to go so that the healing can begin.
We have to make the club unmanageable under this owner. We have to show support for the Charlton Athletic we want to be again, not the stand in. Focussing on anything else is a distraction. Personally, "Support the team, not the regime" has outlived it's usefulness: our support didn't stave off relegation. We've in a different place and need to recalibrate accordingly.
I support CARD and any supporters organising to hasten Roland's departure and I'd humbly suggest using Charlton Life to do the same. We'll try and set the perimeters for acceptable behaviour, as we've always done, but people need to be the change they want to see. I'm proud that it can be used to organise and effect the end of Roland's experiment.
This Forum, like any community on the internet or otherwise, is what we make it. Contribute in such a way that steers it in the direction you'd like to see. It's a diverse community and opinions won't always align; it can help to take a step back.
People are angry, not because of individual decisions, but because they've seen hundreds of poor decisions accumulate, such that we are where we are. I think it's impossible to "get behind the boys" when the decision makers who brought those particular boys here continue to make decisions that only erode our situation further.
These are the decision makers who made decisions to sell the "boys" that were once here, many of whom should still be here, who decided to hire Slade only after making a balls up of the entire hiring process, who have made a balls up of sponsorship sales, and ticket sales, who have dismissed competent staff to replace them with incompetents, when they've been replaced at all, who have rather comically hired staff who then resigned rather than suffer further humiliation in untenable positions, who have created innovative forms of cruel and unusual punishment to alienate lifelong supporters and have turned the match day experience into a veritable battleground. They are continuing and will continue to make the situation worse.
People are complaining about signings because when it looks like deficiencies are addressed, new ones are created. The same mistake of understaffing, so to speak, is being made yet again!
The Charlton Athletic that is worth supporting is on life support, in a coma. The Belgian "doctors" that put it there are now presiding over it's resuscitation. Someone's just dropped your baby on it's head, picked it up again and said "Stand back... it's okay. I've got this!" before tossing it in the air again. That is madness. The owner has to go so that the healing can begin.
We have to make the club unmanageable under this owner. We have to show support for the Charlton Athletic we want to be again, not the stand in. Focussing on anything else is a distraction. Personally, "Support the team, not the regime" has outlived it's usefulness: our support didn't stave off relegation. We've in a different place and need to recalibrate accordingly.
I support CARD and any supporters organising to hasten Roland's departure and I'd humbly suggest using Charlton Life to do the same. We'll try and set the perimeters for acceptable behaviour, as we've always done, but people need to be the change they want to see. I'm proud that it can be used to organise and effect the end of Roland's experiment.
The rhetoric of support the team and not the regime has been a myth for several games, going back well into last season. If I take the Bury game as a recent example, as soon as we go a goal down,do we try and rouse the team to go on and get an equaliser, singing songs about individual players and Charlton in general? Do we shout out at the top of our voices, to show the players we care? Well you've probably guessed the answer.
After the Bury penalty was struck home, the only songs heard from the "Charlton faithful" were, we want Roland out and also the Meire song.
I have no problem with people protesting in any peaceful way, but please stop hiding behind behind the support the team, not the regime mantra. It is clearly not happening. Many posters on CL should adopt the slogan, slag off everything to do with Charlton, at least I would know where they stand.
This Forum, like any community on the internet or otherwise, is what we make it. Contribute in such a way that steers it in the direction you'd like to see. It's a diverse community and opinions won't always align; it can help to take a step back.
People are angry, not because of individual decisions, but because they've seen hundreds of poor decisions accumulate, such that we are where we are. I think it's impossible to "get behind the boys" when the decision makers who brought those particular boys here continue to make decisions that only erode our situation further.
These are the decision makers who made decisions to sell the "boys" that were once here, many of whom should still be here, who decided to hire Slade only after making a balls up of the entire hiring process, who have made a balls up of sponsorship sales, and ticket sales, who have dismissed competent staff to replace them with incompetents, when they've been replaced at all, who have rather comically hired staff who then resigned rather than suffer further humiliation in untenable positions, who have created innovative forms of cruel and unusual punishment to alienate lifelong supporters and have turned the match day experience into a veritable battleground. They are continuing and will continue to make the situation worse.
People are complaining about signings because when it looks like deficiencies are addressed, new ones are created. The same mistake of understaffing, so to speak, is being made yet again!
The Charlton Athletic that is worth supporting is on life support, in a coma. The Belgian "doctors" that put it there are now presiding over it's resuscitation. Someone's just dropped your baby on it's head, picked it up again and said "Stand back... it's okay. I've got this!" before tossing it in the air again. That is madness. The owner has to go so that the healing can begin.
We have to make the club unmanageable under this owner. We have to show support for the Charlton Athletic we want to be again, not the stand in. Focussing on anything else is a distraction. Personally, "Support the team, not the regime" has outlived it's usefulness: our support didn't stave off relegation. We've in a different place and need to recalibrate accordingly.
I support CARD and any supporters organising to hasten Roland's departure and I'd humbly suggest using Charlton Life to do the same. We'll try and set the perimeters for acceptable behaviour, as we've always done, but people need to be the change they want to see. I'm proud that it can be used to organise and effect the end of Roland's experiment.
Fuck positivity these cnuts have worn me down. I hate them with a passion and hate what we have become as a club. Like oohahh above charlton have dictated a lot of my life as they have always come first. Now when we lose I don't go be a fuck. Fuck you Katrien you vile bitch. Fuck you Roland you shit faced scum bag.
This comment really worries me...
No-one should feel this bad about anything.
Seriously? Forget Charlton. Don't look at their scores. Don't go onto any forum. Support another team. Just do something else. Something that makes you HAPPY...
Life's WAY to short to be that miserable about ANYTHING. Find something that lightens your life, not darkens it.
I was recently diagnosed as suffering from depression, and feeling like this about anything will only shorten your life.
Fuck positivity these cnuts have worn me down. I hate them with a passion and hate what we have become as a club. Like oohahh above charlton have dictated a lot of my life as they have always come first. Now when we lose I don't go be a fuck. Fuck you Katrien you vile bitch. Fuck you Roland you shit faced scum bag.
Still, on a positive note, only a couple more weeks before you can go back to influencing our lovely Primary School children.
And if you put Charlton before family, as you state in your post, you really need to have a long look at yourself.
Don't be stupid of course it's not before family. They have been a massive part of my life, now more then ever I switch off and don't care anymore but when I come on here and read about the next fuck up they do it winds me up. There is nothing I would like more then to bring my boy to a game but I just can't do it with these lot in charge.
Fuck positivity these cnuts have worn me down. I hate them with a passion and hate what we have become as a club. Like oohahh above charlton have dictated a lot of my life as they have always come first. Now when we lose I don't go be a fuck. Fuck you Katrien you vile bitch. Fuck you Roland you shit faced scum bag.
This comment really worries me...
No-one should feel this bad about anything.
Seriously? Forget Charlton. Don't look at their scores. Don't go onto any forum. Support another team. Just do something else. Something that makes you HAPPY...
Life's WAY to short to be that miserable about ANYTHING. Find something that lightens your life, not darkens it.
I was recently diagnosed as suffering from depression, and feeling like this about anything will only shorten your life.
Nobody needs that...
I've got kids now they are my life now sod charlton. But it still annoys me that these lot can come in and ruin the club that has been a huge part of my life or something that is barely unrecognisable.
I'm Sorry that you suffer with depression and my post came across a bit ott. Hope you get better soon mate.
This Forum, like any community on the internet or otherwise, is what we make it. Contribute in such a way that steers it in the direction you'd like to see. It's a diverse community and opinions won't always align; it can help to take a step back.
People are angry, not because of individual decisions, but because they've seen hundreds of poor decisions accumulate, such that we are where we are. I think it's impossible to "get behind the boys" when the decision makers who brought those particular boys here continue to make decisions that only erode our situation further.
These are the decision makers who made decisions to sell the "boys" that were once here, many of whom should still be here, who decided to hire Slade only after making a balls up of the entire hiring process, who have made a balls up of sponsorship sales, and ticket sales, who have dismissed competent staff to replace them with incompetents, when they've been replaced at all, who have rather comically hired staff who then resigned rather than suffer further humiliation in untenable positions, who have created innovative forms of cruel and unusual punishment to alienate lifelong supporters and have turned the match day experience into a veritable battleground. They are continuing and will continue to make the situation worse.
People are complaining about signings because when it looks like deficiencies are addressed, new ones are created. The same mistake of understaffing, so to speak, is being made yet again!
The Charlton Athletic that is worth supporting is on life support, in a coma. The Belgian "doctors" that put it there are now presiding over it's resuscitation. Someone's just dropped your baby on it's head, picked it up again and said "Stand back... it's okay. I've got this!" before tossing it in the air again. That is madness. The owner has to go so that the healing can begin.
We have to make the club unmanageable under this owner. We have to show support for the Charlton Athletic we want to be again, not the stand in. Focussing on anything else is a distraction. Personally, "Support the team, not the regime" has outlived it's usefulness: our support didn't stave off relegation. We've in a different place and need to recalibrate accordingly.
I support CARD and any supporters organising to hasten Roland's departure and I'd humbly suggest using Charlton Life to do the same. We'll try and set the perimeters for acceptable behaviour, as we've always done, but people need to be the change they want to see. I'm proud that it can be used to organise and effect the end of Roland's experiment.
The rhetoric of support the team and not the regime has been a myth for several games, going back well into last season. If I take the Bury game as a recent example, as soon as we go a goal down,do we try and rouse the team to go on and get an equaliser, singing songs about individual players and Charlton in general? Do we shout out at the top of our voices, to show the players we care? Well you've probably guessed the answer.
After the Bury penalty was struck home, the only songs heard from the "Charlton faithful" were, we want Roland out and also the Meire song.
I have no problem with people protesting in any peaceful way, but please stop hiding behind behind the support the team, not the regime mantra. It is clearly not happening. Many posters on CL should adopt the slogan, slag off everything to do with Charlton, at least I would know where they stand.
The supporters on the terrace cannot turn a sows ear of a midfield into a silk purse. It is a tiresome old chestnut to suggest somehow it is the supporters fault for a poor performance on the pitch or a poor result.
The supporters are not responsible for club disorganisation, a half formed squad with lots of gaps and the team not up to scratch.
Supporting the team should not result in a shutting down of critical facilities or the reality of what is going on infront of your eyes.
Support is good. Charlton supporters do back the team especially when something good is happening on the pitch. Even if something even relatively minor happens on the pitch, the crowd will encourage.
It also requires the players to not behave like asses on the pitch, Johnson being a prime example, and the head coach being understanding of the frustration of supporters of a team not doing well.
Fuck positivity these cnuts have worn me down. I hate them with a passion and hate what we have become as a club. Like oohahh above charlton have dictated a lot of my life as they have always come first. Now when we lose I don't go be a fuck. Fuck you Katrien you vile bitch. Fuck you Roland you shit faced scum bag.
In my OP I wasn't suggesting everything needs to be spun in a positive way. It's pretty damned obvious that the club is in the grip of a madman and I want him out. The regime do ridiculous things. The very latest the ticketing policy and surcharges that actually discourage attendance. You couldn't make it up.
What I am saying is that we have now reached the point where nearly 25% of posts (?) it seems to me are unjustifiabley negative.
We get a transfer rumour that about eg. Magennis and straight away the posts. start with "oh god" or "useless lump" when in fact nobody apart from a very few on here will have even heard of him. Another example is with the signing of Botaka. We get the comment "started career in Belgium - Tick box"
It's tiresome, wearing and frankly spoiling this unbelievably good forum.
I'll be there on Saturday making my protest but I will cheer on those players wearing the clubs shirt just as I always have.
If you can't do that then I feel sorry for you. I really do.
Fuck positivity these cnuts have worn me down. I hate them with a passion and hate what we have become as a club. Like oohahh above charlton have dictated a lot of my life as they have always come first. Now when we lose I don't go be a fuck. Fuck you Katrien you vile bitch. Fuck you Roland you shit faced scum bag.
In my OP I wasn't suggesting everything needs to be spun in a positive way. It's pretty damned obvious that the club is in the grip of a madman and I want him out. The regime do ridiculous things. The very latest the ticketing policy and surcharges that actually discourage attendance. You couldn't make it up.
What I am saying is that we have now reached the point where nearly 25% of posts (?) it seems to me are unjustifiabley negative.
We get a transfer rumour that about eg. Magennis and straight away the posts. start with "oh god" or "useless lump" when in fact nobody apart from a very few on here will have even heard of him. Another example is with the signing of Botaka. We get the comment "started career in Belgium - Tick box"
It's tiresome, wearing and frankly spoiling this unbelievably good forum.
I'll be there on Saturday making my protest but I will cheer on those players wearing the clubs shirt just as I always have.
If you can't do that then I feel sorry for you. I really do.
Roland out.
Why is everyone feeling sorry for me at the minute lol.
I agree with the majority of your post however the negative posts are purely because of the awful owners, they have turned everyone against each other and its only natrual after signing so many crap players past and present any new player that no one has heard of is going to get called crap before they have even started. I'm not saying its right but that's a lot of people's mind set at the minute and its not their fault, the whole club is one big negative and doesn't look like changing to a positive any time soon and if you can't see that then I feel sorry for you I really do.
A fellow Charlton fan told me he re reads Orwell's 1984 at least every 10 years. In essence the state not only wants to have absolute control, no dissent, but that if the state says 2+2=5 then that is the new reality. However the ultimate demand is not only that you let the state exercise absolute power at whatever whim it wishes but you love the state for doing so. You love Big Brother.
The regime has pumped out unremitting negativity. I mean when was the last time things were any good? Peterborough away last year was the closest moment I can think of, and prior to thst we had already had the Woolwich meeting.
Positivity is all well and good, but it is almost like however much negative stuff thrown at us (I was at Bury) we are supposed to react in a way that shows we love Big Brother.
This forum is amazingly positive in the context. Match previews, threads and reports and player marks still continue. There is humour to be found everywhere, there are informed posts, erudite posts, supportive posts for individuals, helpful posts, all kinds of good interaction...given the misery of supporting Charlton Athletic it is pretty amazing what a positive place Charlton Life is.
The club want to control what is said, we needn't. We can try to discuss some matters with a degree of depth and respect each other which we largely do.
The current challenge is the level of expectation created by both the CEO and to a lesser degree by the Manager.
The assertion was made we would build a squad able to compete for a top six spot as a minimum.
Judged against such expectation we are, as admitted by Slade just 2 weeks ago, miles away from we need to be.
Pre season was a failure - it was wasted.
The opening to the season has been less than stellar with two "lack lustre" performances made worse by two unprofessional communication "faux pas".
I could argue there has been a 3rd today with the indication there will be no further major departures. It does not really stack up when you have Bauer, Pearce, Texeira, Johnson, Lennon with Konsa added to the mix.
On the face of it none of this is earth shattering but it is unprofessional and creates more uncertainty. Someone with 23yrs in the game should know better.
In terms of squad building since Slades' comments we have replaced one promising young keeper with another very good keeper.
In defense we have seen Konsa emerge, Pearce arrive, while Johnson has apparently been offerred a career reclamation opportunity.
The front six has looked alarmingly short in quality, balance and options.
Magennis and Botoka will provide senior competition and options. That is to be welcomed and most are not going to prejudge these additions until they have had a chance to settle and perform.
It is however the nature of the on line football supporter to climb all over any players profile. At the level we are now operating such profiles are never likely to be reveal unparalleled levels of success.
In competitive terms such additions are at least a month too late.
I will argue we are still two short in the front 6 - waiting for Diarra and Kashi is simply not acceptable.
So based on the assertions made we are still well behind where we need to be and are likely to remain so for a few weeks yet.
Underlying it all is the fundamental question of whether we are seeing a basic shift in the regimes thinking and in the level of empowerment of, and support for, the manager and the playing staff.
The coming weeks will give us a clearer picture. Much will depend on Slades ability to work with the talents now assembled and any further additions to deliver to the original assertions made.
This in itself will greatly depend on the quality & balance of the rebuilding programme already undertaken and the ability to forge a committed, competitive and successful squad going forward.
Like it or not, we now live in a world where public media will mean, especially in light of the past 31 months, every word and action will be scrutinised.
The negativity, as with the protests, as with the pessimism alluded to by Slade are not the cause of our challenges but a response to the evidence of our own ears and eyes.
The remedy for that rests in entirely another place.
Fuck positivity these cnuts have worn me down. I hate them with a passion and hate what we have become as a club. Like oohahh above charlton have dictated a lot of my life as they have always come first. Now when we lose I don't go be a fuck. Fuck you Katrien you vile bitch. Fuck you Roland you shit faced scum bag.
Agreed.
For me Charlton do not come first though. Family etc does, but this club means so much to me it has for almost 25 years.
What fucks me right off, is that this regime has killed my emotion for wins or losses...
Out of habit I still want us to win.
In my head if losing will get rid of these mugs, then fuck it. Lets lose some more.
I don't think RD will sell until we at least get promoted to the Championship or he is in financial difficulty... So we're fucked because they're tight fisted SHUNTS.
If anyone is in any doubt as to why, just take a slice of the won/drawn/lost/goals for/goals against stats since the Belgians strode into town. Butter that with all a huge dollop of general club fuckwittery and garnish with 14 chips. Fold in two and you have a Charlton Club sandwich. The well-known cure-all for optimism, fun and laugther.
Fuck positivity these cnuts have worn me down. I hate them with a passion and hate what we have become as a club. Like oohahh above charlton have dictated a lot of my life as they have always come first. Now when we lose I don't go be a fuck. Fuck you Katrien you vile bitch. Fuck you Roland you shit faced scum bag.
Still, on a positive note, only a couple more weeks before you can go back to influencing our lovely Primary School children.
And if you put Charlton before family, as you state in your post, you really need to have a long look at yourself.
Don't be stupid of course it's not before family. They have been a massive part of my life
You wrote ''Like oohahh above charlton have dictated a lot of my life as they have always come first.''
Fuck positivity these cnuts have worn me down. I hate them with a passion and hate what we have become as a club. Like oohahh above charlton have dictated a lot of my life as they have always come first. Now when we lose I don't go be a fuck. Fuck you Katrien you vile bitch. Fuck you Roland you shit faced scum bag.
Still, on a positive note, only a couple more weeks before you can go back to influencing our lovely Primary School children.
And if you put Charlton before family, as you state in your post, you really need to have a long look at yourself.
Don't be stupid of course it's not before family. They have been a massive part of my life
You wrote ''Like oohahh above charlton have dictated a lot of my life as they have always come first.''
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I hate this regime with all my heart - the one I always wear on my sleeve.
I love this club with all my heart but the soul has been ripped out of it leaving a shell not too far off being empty.
I tell myself & others that I DO support the team but as I've posted recently, I fear it's becoming more difficult to do so under the poisonous stewardship of RD & KM.
The number of different players that have passed through the tunnel onto the hallowed turf over the past 30 months has been unprecedented. As someone who is not the biggest fan of change in general, this in itself has been a challenge...Like most fans, managers and indeed teams themselves I would imagine, I long for a settled group of players from which the matchday squad is selected.
Familiarity can, of course, breed contempt but on the whole, at least for me, I need to "know" my players and at the very least, to recognise them ! I want to like & respect them for the effort they give week after week, and to feel they in turn want to perform for me - careful !
Sadly, I feel further adrift from the current squad than ever & it hurts to admit it. These lads will have to earn my respect, my admiration and maybe that's the way it should be. All I can say at present is that I WANT to give them my support; I WANT to be positive but I found it difficult to be upbeat, loud & proud at Bury last Saturday and I didn't enjoy the experience.
This is NOT the Charlton I have followed & loved for the past 50 years through thick & thin. I can take the lows because inevitably they don't last forever.
What I am finding SO hard to swallow is the current low because I fear for the eventual outcome.
And a future without this dear old club doesn't bear thinking about.
Let's give praise where it's due (not much around admittedly) and let's criticise where it's due.
I despise RD & Meire as much as anyone on here and have contributed more to the demonstrations than many I would suggest. However, we do ourselves no favours by criticising absolutely everything, if it is not justified.
Slade being called a yes man, when he has quite clearly spoken out against what's gone on, is wrong imo.
Johnson swears at our fans, totally out of order and he should make a statement of apology to the fans & possibly fined. But sack him ? Score him 1/10 on his match performance ? Double standards here I feel. If Jackson or Solly had sworn at the fans (and I know people will say they wouldn't, but anyone can lose their temper), would fans have been calling for their sacking ?
I could give more instances, but it would be pointless.
The point is as protestors against the regime, we will lose support from the non protestors and also from the football world, if we are going to become petty and vindictive, over every little thing, when it is not justified.
Personally, I've been challenged myself by some for not criticising every single little thing.
No doubt I'll get flack for this, but I'm saying it how it is.
We need to protest and complain when it is appropriate and take a deep breath when it isn't.
I don't doubt I'll get stick for this and if I do it will prove to me, that what I'm saying is correct.
I know no one loves this club more than me , I've risked life , limb ,marriage etc for this club and the pain and gut wrenching shitness that we are going through now is breaking my heart
And yes I feel so negative towards these joke owners and a promotion wouldn't change this at all
I really hate the way I feel about it , it hurts beyond a joke
I'm beyond gutted with how I feel so bollox to positiveness with these f***tards in charge
Sorry for the blathering but a dozen pints at the Oval today means I can't pretend this situation is not a nightmare
And if you put Charlton before family, as you state in your post, you really need to have a long look at yourself.
After the Bury penalty was struck home, the only songs heard from the "Charlton faithful" were, we want Roland out and also the Meire song.
I have no problem with people protesting in any peaceful way, but please stop hiding behind behind the support the team, not the regime mantra. It is clearly not happening. Many posters on CL should adopt the slogan, slag off everything to do with Charlton, at least I would know where they stand.
No-one should feel this bad about anything.
Seriously? Forget Charlton. Don't look at their scores. Don't go onto any forum. Support another team. Just do something else. Something that makes you HAPPY...
Life's WAY to short to be that miserable about ANYTHING. Find something that lightens your life, not darkens it.
I was recently diagnosed as suffering from depression, and feeling like this about anything will only shorten your life.
Nobody needs that...
I'm Sorry that you suffer with depression and my post came across a bit ott. Hope you get better soon mate.
The supporters are not responsible for club disorganisation, a half formed squad with lots of gaps and the team not up to scratch.
Support is good. Charlton supporters do back the team especially when something good is happening on the pitch. Even if something even relatively minor happens on the pitch, the crowd will encourage.
It also requires the players to not behave like asses on the pitch, Johnson being a prime example, and the head coach being understanding of the frustration of supporters of a team not doing well.
What I am saying is that we have now reached the point where nearly 25% of posts (?) it seems to me are unjustifiabley negative.
We get a transfer rumour that about eg. Magennis and straight away the posts. start with "oh god" or "useless lump" when in fact nobody apart from a very few on here will have even heard of him. Another example is with the signing of Botaka. We get the comment "started career in Belgium - Tick box"
It's tiresome, wearing and frankly spoiling this unbelievably good forum.
I'll be there on Saturday making my protest but I will cheer on those players wearing the clubs shirt just as I always have.
If you can't do that then I feel sorry for you. I really do.
Roland out.
I agree with the majority of your post however the negative posts are purely because of the awful owners, they have turned everyone against each other and its only natrual after signing so many crap players past and present any new player that no one has heard of is going to get called crap before they have even started. I'm not saying its right but that's a lot of people's mind set at the minute and its not their fault, the whole club is one big negative and doesn't look like changing to a positive any time soon and if you can't see that then I feel sorry for you I really do.
However the ultimate demand is not only that you let the state exercise absolute power at whatever whim it wishes but you love the state for doing so. You love Big Brother.
The regime has pumped out unremitting negativity. I mean when was the last time things were any good? Peterborough away last year was the closest moment I can think of, and prior to thst we had already had the Woolwich meeting.
Positivity is all well and good, but it is almost like however much negative stuff thrown at us (I was at Bury) we are supposed to react in a way that shows we love Big Brother.
This forum is amazingly positive in the context. Match previews, threads and reports and player marks still continue. There is humour to be found everywhere, there are informed posts, erudite posts, supportive posts for individuals, helpful posts, all kinds of good interaction...given the misery of supporting Charlton Athletic it is pretty amazing what a positive place Charlton Life is.
The club want to control what is said, we needn't. We can try to discuss some matters with a degree of depth and respect each other which we largely do.
The assertion was made we would build a squad able to compete for a top six spot as a minimum.
Judged against such expectation we are, as admitted by Slade just 2 weeks ago, miles away from we need to be.
Pre season was a failure - it was wasted.
The opening to the season has been less than stellar with two "lack lustre" performances made worse by two unprofessional communication "faux pas".
I could argue there has been a 3rd today with the indication there will be no further major departures. It does not really stack up when you have Bauer, Pearce, Texeira, Johnson, Lennon with Konsa added to the mix.
On the face of it none of this is earth shattering but it is unprofessional and creates more uncertainty. Someone with 23yrs in the game should know better.
In terms of squad building since Slades' comments we have replaced one promising young keeper with another very good keeper.
In defense we have seen Konsa emerge, Pearce arrive, while Johnson has apparently been offerred a career reclamation opportunity.
The front six has looked alarmingly short in quality, balance and options.
Magennis and Botoka will provide senior competition and options. That is to be welcomed and most are not going to prejudge these additions until they have had a chance to settle and perform.
It is however the nature of the on line football supporter to climb all over any players profile. At the level we are now operating such profiles are never likely to be reveal unparalleled levels of success.
In competitive terms such additions are at least a month too late.
I will argue we are still two short in the front 6 - waiting for Diarra and Kashi is simply not acceptable.
So based on the assertions made we are still well behind where we need to be and are likely to remain so for a few weeks yet.
Catastrophic failure? Obviously not. Disappointing? Yes. Worthy of critical comment? Absolutely!
Underlying it all is the fundamental question of whether we are seeing a basic shift in the regimes thinking and in the level of empowerment of, and support for, the manager and the playing staff.
The coming weeks will give us a clearer picture. Much will depend on Slades ability to work with the talents now assembled and any further additions to deliver to the original assertions made.
This in itself will greatly depend on the quality & balance of the rebuilding programme already undertaken and the ability to forge a committed, competitive and successful squad going forward.
Like it or not, we now live in a world where public media will mean, especially in light of the past 31 months, every word and action will be scrutinised.
The negativity, as with the protests, as with the pessimism alluded to by Slade are not the cause of our challenges but a response to the evidence of our own ears and eyes.
The remedy for that rests in entirely another place.
For me Charlton do not come first though. Family etc does, but this club means so much to me it has for almost 25 years.
What fucks me right off, is that this regime has killed my emotion for wins or losses...
Out of habit I still want us to win.
In my head if losing will get rid of these mugs, then fuck it. Lets lose some more.
I don't think RD will sell until we at least get promoted to the Championship or he is in financial difficulty... So we're fucked because they're tight fisted SHUNTS.
Here's another one:
But, surely the reasons for that are obvious?
If anyone is in any doubt as to why, just take a slice of the won/drawn/lost/goals for/goals against stats since the Belgians strode into town. Butter that with all a huge dollop of general club fuckwittery and garnish with 14 chips. Fold in two and you have a Charlton Club sandwich. The well-known cure-all for optimism, fun and laugther.
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
''Like oohahh above charlton have dictated a lot of my life as they have always come first.''
And you tell me not to be stupid.
Wierd.