Hope he's disclosed the hospitality to his bosses. Someone might like to ask him on twitter? Here's an extract from the Beeb's guidelines:
Receiving hospitality or gifts from organisations or individuals 39. Whilst modest hospitality is an accepted courtesy of a business relationship, the recipient should not allow a position to be reached whereby its acceptance might be deemed by others to have influenced a decision or lead to potential allegations of conflict of interest. Invitations to modest corporate entertainment events may be accepted if there is clear benefit to the BBC e.g. to build supplier relationships or to network with other customers / contacts. Invitations should not be accepted if the event is overseas or includes an overnight stay. Invitations which include partners may be accepted, with line manager approval, and provided they meet the above criteria, if there is no cost to the BBC.
40. Gifts (for you or your immediate family) from organisations or individuals with whom you Have, or might have, business dealings on behalf of the BBC should not be accepted. This can include goods and services in kind, at preferential rates or cash. Gifts should be returned to the sender or donated to charity. Modest gifts e.g. flowers or a bottle of wine, of less than £50 in value, may be occasionally accepted.
Always feel sorry for cafc fans asked by TV/radio presenters to sum up the club's problems in a few seconds (as Steve was).
Trouble is, there is such a catalogue of crap decisions, farcical events and blunders both on and off the pitch that it's impossible to get it across as a succinct sound bite. Most people usually start by describing the string of ridiculous managerial appointments, or the fact that player recruitment has been abysmal - but that doesn't cover the depth of incompetence, and can often just make us sound like your average ungrateful football fan.
Regarding Clem's comment about the two fans that went nuts at Katrien when KAG missed 2 penalties: I'm not sure exactly what was said, but I do know that even listening at home I had a strong reaction to it. I would put this down to two things -
1. A double penalty miss just sums up the utter hopelessness of our team for the last year
2. KAG is a player that I consider to be ruined by the recruitment policy of this regime. Highly rated, but forced into far too much action too early by a thin squad and poor quality buys. His confidence looks shot, and that is directly attributable to KM and RD.
Always feel sorry for cafc fans asked by TV/radio presenters to sum up the club's problems in a few seconds (as Steve was).
Trouble is, there is such a catalogue of crap decisions, farcical events and blunders both on and off the pitch that it's impossible to get it across as a succinct sound bite. Most people usually start by describing the string of ridiculous managerial appointments, or the fact that player recruitment has been abysmal - but that doesn't cover the depth of incompetence, and can often just make us sound like your average ungrateful football fan.
This is a big problem. The whole thing is so weird/unique/awful that it's infuriating trying to articulate it succinctly.
Hope he's disclosed the hospitality to his bosses. Someone might like to ask him on twitter
He's a freelancer invited on to give an opinion (rather than report neutrally) so none of that really applies. Doesn't excuse what he did, but the fault is in the structure of so much of the BBC's football coverage - no real journalism, just opinions from people who are usually compromised (such as managers looking for work or, in Clem's case, a freelancer who has accepted commissions from the Football League in the past).
I hope the CARD team are able to respond with something strong to remind the Five Live Sport team that problems at Charlton (and Leeds, Blackpool, etc) can't be covered with just a "well, the chairman told me it'll be okay over whisky and cigars", as it all too often is.
Hope he's disclosed the hospitality to his bosses. Someone might like to ask him on twitter
He's a freelancer invited on to give an opinion (rather than report neutrally) so none of that really applies. Doesn't excuse what he did, but the fault is in the structure of so much of the BBC's football coverage - no real journalism, just opinions from people who are usually compromised (such as managers looking for work or, in Clem's case, a freelancer who has accepted commissions from the Football League in the past).
I hope the CARD team are able to respond with something strong to remind the Five Live Sport team that problems at Charlton (and Leeds, Blackpool, etc) can't be covered with just a "well, the chairman told me it'll be okay over whisky and cigars", as it all too often is.
As I have said before, and would like to repeat, BBC London radio should be honourably exempted from the the criticisms you make, which are probably otherwise fair. As should Dan Roan but of course his remit is huge.
Are you 100% sure that Clemmit is a freelancer? I've suggested to the Trust that we launch a formal complaint, and so @cafcfan 's pasting of the regulations may be relevant. What is clear is that BBC employees are anyway responsible for the actions of external contractors. This much I know from a long and bitter battle between the LLDC and the BBC over the Olympic Stadium documentary, which was produced and directed by an external company.
Has been said already but these owners have destroyed Karlan Ahearne-Grant.
They saw our Academy and how well it had done in the past, saw how it produced Joe Gomez and so gave them a quick buck and now want to try and do the same each and every year... KAG / Kennedy / Charles-Cook have solely been thrown into the First-Team because our idiot owners don't think they need to go and buy players because they think these kids are ready and will not only save them a quick buck yet if they're good enough will put another million or two into their bank account the following summer...
Should that fail like it has with these mentioned so far, then the attitude from the Belgians is oh well not our problem... We'll try again with the next batch: Konsa / Umerah / Hanlan etc.
Yes - he's presented Conference stuff for BT Sport and done stuff for the Football League. I'd suggest that any complaint to the BBC should be on that Steve's points weren't properly put to Clemmit or the panel for discussion - they were just brushed over. I thought they were heading for a "how do you manage a team when the relationship between club and fans has broken down" discussion, which is fair enough, but it never even got to that point.
Yes - he's presented Conference stuff for BT Sport and done stuff for the Football League. I'd suggest that any complaint to the BBC should be on that Steve's points weren't properly put to Clemmit or the panel for discussion - they were just brushed over. I thought they were heading for a "how do you manage a team when the relationship between club and fans has broken down" discussion, which is fair enough, but it never even got to that point.
Thanks. We are now thinking that instead of going head to head with a complaint, we try to instead get them to redress the balance. Personally I think it is futile with Radio 5, which is football for dummies, and instead seek to get BBC London radio to make a determined effort to get Meire to agree to be interviewed by a proper journalist, briefed on our legitimate complaints.
Lazy wildly inaccurate apology for journalism, piss poor. The guff about the Burnley game presented as 'fact' that there was any risk of abandonment, simply the opposite of the truth. CARD had stated unequivocally that the game would not be disrupted in the way that for example the Middlesbrough game had. It is the club's responsibility to employ sufficient stewarding/security/police numbers to prevent unauthorised incursions to the pitch during the game. Pitch invasions by irresponsible individuals are an occasional irritation in football generally. At a time of heightened emotions they would have to be more likely and it is beholden on the club to augment their plans accordingly. That is; have adequate stewarding, appropriately trained, not a fence in front of one stand compromising the view of thousands of customers/fans. The grievances of Charlton's fans were essentially dismissed and KM's tired drivel was given an unexamined airing. Clem is a toadying berk with a hugely overinflated notion of his adequacy as a journalist. His contributions to the old BBC football league coverage amounted to nothing more than him fawning over some club's manager or senior pro, gurning and nodding like an idiot.
I was advised last month that Mr Clemmit has an abode in Roberts-Ville (aka the Top People's Palace of Berkeley, aka Woolwich Arsenal). No idea where, though, and have only the say-so of the guy who told me. Anyway, Clem, keep grinning like you're friends with everyone in the UK, enjoy the 'hospitality' of the Boardroom and do keep away from those pesky football fans.
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Sent both him and that Clem arse a link to Charlie Connelly's blog, though doubt they will bother to read it.
Welcome to the murky world of League One.
Looks like they are getting on the front foot with the media PR charm offensive...
Could the Trust try and invite him to their AGM?
Here's an extract from the Beeb's guidelines:
Receiving hospitality or gifts from organisations or individuals
39. Whilst modest hospitality is an accepted courtesy of a business relationship, the recipient should not allow a position to be reached whereby its acceptance might be deemed by others to have influenced a decision or lead to potential allegations of conflict of interest.
Invitations to modest corporate entertainment events may be accepted if there is clear benefit to the BBC e.g. to build supplier relationships or to network with other customers / contacts. Invitations should not be accepted if the event is overseas or includes an overnight stay. Invitations which include partners may be accepted, with line manager approval, and provided they meet the above criteria, if there is no cost to the BBC.
40. Gifts (for you or your immediate family) from organisations or individuals with whom you Have, or might have, business dealings on behalf of the BBC should not be accepted. This can include goods and services in kind, at preferential rates or cash. Gifts should be returned to the sender or donated to charity. Modest gifts e.g. flowers or a bottle of wine, of less than £50 in value, may be occasionally accepted.
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Always feel sorry for cafc fans asked by TV/radio presenters to sum up the club's problems in a few seconds (as Steve was).
Trouble is, there is such a catalogue of crap decisions, farcical events and blunders both on and off the pitch that it's impossible to get it across as a succinct sound bite. Most people usually start by describing the string of ridiculous managerial appointments, or the fact that player recruitment has been abysmal - but that doesn't cover the depth of incompetence, and can often just make us sound like your average ungrateful football fan.
Regarding Clem's comment about the two fans that went nuts at Katrien when KAG missed 2 penalties: I'm not sure exactly what was said, but I do know that even listening at home I had a strong reaction to it. I would put this down to two things -
1. A double penalty miss just sums up the utter hopelessness of our team for the last year
2. KAG is a player that I consider to be ruined by the recruitment policy of this regime. Highly rated, but forced into far too much action too early by a thin squad and poor quality buys. His confidence looks shot, and that is directly attributable to KM and RD.
@Pico will be a great replacement though - who's going to take the minutes now though ?!
I hope the CARD team are able to respond with something strong to remind the Five Live Sport team that problems at Charlton (and Leeds, Blackpool, etc) can't be covered with just a "well, the chairman told me it'll be okay over whisky and cigars", as it all too often is.
Are you 100% sure that Clemmit is a freelancer? I've suggested to the Trust that we launch a formal complaint, and so @cafcfan 's pasting of the regulations may be relevant. What is clear is that BBC employees are anyway responsible for the actions of external contractors. This much I know from a long and bitter battle between the LLDC and the BBC over the Olympic Stadium documentary, which was produced and directed by an external company.
They saw our Academy and how well it had done in the past, saw how it produced Joe Gomez and so gave them a quick buck and now want to try and do the same each and every year... KAG / Kennedy / Charles-Cook have solely been thrown into the First-Team because our idiot owners don't think they need to go and buy players because they think these kids are ready and will not only save them a quick buck yet if they're good enough will put another million or two into their bank account the following summer...
Should that fail like it has with these mentioned so far, then the attitude from the Belgians is oh well not our problem... We'll try again with the next batch: Konsa / Umerah / Hanlan etc.
It's her who needs to gain a sense of perspective and, perhaps think about fulfilling her role as CEO competently.
The guff about the Burnley game presented as 'fact' that there was any risk of abandonment, simply the opposite of the truth. CARD had stated unequivocally that the game would not be disrupted in the way that for example the Middlesbrough game had. It is the club's responsibility to employ sufficient stewarding/security/police numbers to prevent unauthorised incursions to the pitch during the game. Pitch invasions by irresponsible individuals are an occasional irritation in football generally. At a time of heightened emotions they would have to be more likely and it is beholden on the club to augment their plans accordingly. That is; have adequate stewarding, appropriately trained, not a fence in front of one stand compromising the view of thousands of customers/fans.
The grievances of Charlton's fans were essentially dismissed and KM's tired drivel was given an unexamined airing.
Clem is a toadying berk with a hugely overinflated notion of his adequacy as a journalist. His contributions to the old BBC football league coverage amounted to nothing more than him fawning over some club's manager or senior pro, gurning and nodding like an idiot.