London shitholes turn into trendy areas in the blink of an eye. I remember Dalston 6-7 years ago was a dump and now its full of hipsters, pop up bars and eye wateringly expensive flats. I can imagine something similar happening to Woolwich especially as crossrail has made it so much more connected. If I was going to buy somewhere in London as an investment central Woolwich would be high on my list.
@ShootersHillGuru , I am aware of those plans. Any idea when the development in likely to take place?
I think it's planned for completion in 2019. I also understand that after it done the focus will move to Powis and Hare Street. Woolwich will be unrecognisable in ten years.
When you consider Woolwich Cross Rail to Bond St. will take 20 minutes you can see why Woolwich will become very desirable.
Its funny how times change, Id rather go Woolwich than Bexleyheath (although end up going Bexleyheath for quickness)
When I was a Teen youd get dressed smart to go shopping at Bexleyheath (approx. 1990ish and go Woolwich if you had to and jump straight back on a 53 (54,75) to Charlton.
Now Bexleyheath just looks like a Jeremy Kyle casting.
I know that the comments are in jest, but I think Woolwich is a great place to live in. I happen to live in a lovely building surrounded by an acre of grounds in the heart of the town. We've got the river with lovely walks towards Erith or Greenwich. The blend by the river of the heritage of Woolwich (Royal Artillery being established here in 1716 etc.) with the new apartments works really well. Add that to new pubs, restaurants etc. and good parks. The town has struggled a lot in the last 25 plus years but I think it's really on the up.
Do you have any photos across the other side of the Woolwich Road ?
I presume you're referring to that derelict building across from the bottom of Charlton Lane? Not going to pretend that are doesn't have it's issues but prety sure that the entirety of the Woolwich Road lies in SE7 and SE10, not SE18.
Quite right, I should have said Beresford Street.
Let's be honest Woolwich is a shit pit, apart from the the new "Woolwich Arsenal area", where you live and I say that as someone who is there 4 days a week, as my wife comes from Woolwich and my ma in law still lives there.
The stark contrast between Woolwich and the new development across the road reminds me of Bishopsgate, near Liverpool Street.
The Liverpool Street side of the road is stinking rich city folk and yet you cross Bishopsgate and walk down 100 yards and you enter another world around Brick lane.
Do you have any photos across the other side of the Woolwich Road ?
I presume you're referring to that derelict building across from the bottom of Charlton Lane? Not going to pretend that are doesn't have it's issues but prety sure that the entirety of the Woolwich Road lies in SE7 and SE10, not SE18.
Quite right, I should have said Beresford Street.
Let's be honest Woolwich is a shit pit, apart from the the new "Woolwich Arsenal area", where you live and I say that as someone who is there 4 days a week, as my wife comes from Woolwich and my ma in law still lives there.
The start contrast between Woolwich and the new development across the road reminds me of Bishopsgate, near Liverpool Street.
The Liverpool Street side of the road is stinking rich city folk and yet you cross Bishopsgate and walk down 100 yards and you enter another world around Brick lane.
Take your point, but I don't live in the new development. My flat is in the building of the first of the four photos I posted in the thread and is over two hundred years old, so there are other nice parts of the town. It has it's challenges but it honestly is a good place to live. Managed to convince my wife to leave south west London and not settle in Birghton where she studied and we're much happier here than we were in either of those places. Plus, we're only a half hour walk from the greatest football club on earth!
Sw16... I understand what you are saying. And it is getting better. But My husband came out the Arsenal last Friday afternoon and in broad daylight a young man came straight at him as he walked behind the fruit and veg stall by the nat west.
Obviously the lovely young man tried to say hello to my husband but realised his mistake and has probably not run as fast as he has since the last time he tried to mug the wrong bloke.
Must admit when Ian rang me to tell me about what happened I put the phone down and laughed. Though it's actually not funny.
I know that the comments are in jest, but I think Woolwich is a great place to live in. I happen to live in a lovely building surrounded by an acre of grounds in the heart of the town. We've got the river with lovely walks towards Erith or Greenwich. The blend by the river of the heritage of Woolwich (Royal Artillery being established here in 1716 etc.) with the new apartments works really well. Add that to new pubs, restaurants etc. and good parks. The town has struggled a lot in the last 25 plus years but I think it's really on the up.
Since when was Woolwich in SW16?
Ahh, so that explains Katrien's strategy for getting new fans.
Polarisation, just like Dalston mentioned above and Hackney/Clapton. Just expect more and more of it in places increasingly further out from Zone 1.
Shitholes, open a few poncy organic shops and a gastropub selling 'beers of the crafty type' (chortle) between the Payday Loan and Fried chicken shops, and the houses shoot up in price immediately. New build 'communities' going up on every spare bit of land for well-off professionals while clusters of blokes sit in the square supping White Ace at 9am.
Polarisation, just like Dalston mentioned above and Hackney/Clapton. Just expect more and more of it in places increasingly further out from Zone 1.
Shitholes, open a few poncy organic shops and a gastropub selling 'beers of the crafty type' (chortle) between the Payday Loan and Fried chicken shops, and the houses shoot up in price immediately. New build 'communities' going up on every spare bit of land for well-off professionals while clusters of blokes sit in the square supping White Ace at 9am.
No middle ground whatsoever.
Had thought the same as you until I saw one of the old estates being knocked down. These estates are being replaced by new council flats. I think the area is using its working roots (Royal Arsenal etc.) to enhance its potential as a good place to live for those already here. I have at times struggled to reconcile this "new" Woolwich to the one I knew as a child but I honestly believe that this is should bring a better home for people born and raised here as well as those moving in for the first time.
Sw16... I understand what you are saying. And it is getting better. But My husband came out the Arsenal last Friday afternoon and in broad daylight a young man came straight at him as he walked behind the fruit and veg stall by the nat west.
Obviously the lovely young man tried to say hello to my husband but realised his mistake and has probably not run as fast as he has since the last time he tried to mug the wrong bloke.
Must admit when Ian rang me to tell me, after he ranted for 10 minutes about what happened I put the phone down and I laughed my head off. Though it's actually not funny.
Thankfully don't know anyone who has been attacked or mugged here but am sure it still is a problem.
Let's face it. Woolwich in it's riverside location and proximity to central London has been undervalued for a very long time. The arrival of the DLR and soon arrival of Cross Rail in combination with large regeneration projects all around the lower parts of Charlton and Woolwich will see house / flat prices go up and as that happens bars and restaurants will naturally follow. Once the two shabby shopping streets. Powis Street and Hare Street are redeveloped which as I understand it will start to happen in about 2020 the area will be a very desirable location to live. Exciting times for that area.
Do you have any photos across the other side of the Woolwich Road ?
I presume you're referring to that derelict building across from the bottom of Charlton Lane? Not going to pretend that are doesn't have it's issues but prety sure that the entirety of the Woolwich Road lies in SE7 and SE10, not SE18.
Quite right, I should have said Beresford Street.
Let's be honest Woolwich is a shit pit, apart from the the new "Woolwich Arsenal area", where you live and I say that as someone who is there 4 days a week, as my wife comes from Woolwich and my ma in law still lives there.
The start contrast between Woolwich and the new development across the road reminds me of Bishopsgate, near Liverpool Street.
The Liverpool Street side of the road is stinking rich city folk and yet you cross Bishopsgate and walk down 100 yards and you enter another world around Brick lane.
Take your point, but I don't live in the new development. My flat is in the building of the first of the four photos I posted in the thread and is over two hundred years old, so there are other nice parts of the town. It has it's challenges but it honestly is a good place to live. Managed to convince my wife to leave south west London and not settle in Birghton where she studied and we're much happier here than we were in either of those places. Plus, we're only a half hour walk from the greatest football club on earth!
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When you consider Woolwich Cross Rail to Bond St. will take 20 minutes you can see why Woolwich will become very desirable.
When I was a Teen youd get dressed smart to go shopping at Bexleyheath (approx. 1990ish and go Woolwich if you had to and jump straight back on a 53 (54,75) to Charlton.
Now Bexleyheath just looks like a Jeremy Kyle casting.
Let's be honest Woolwich is a shit pit, apart from the the new "Woolwich Arsenal area", where you live and I say that as someone who is there 4 days a week, as my wife comes from Woolwich and my ma in law still lives there.
The stark contrast between Woolwich and the new development across the road reminds me of Bishopsgate, near Liverpool Street.
The Liverpool Street side of the road is stinking rich city folk and yet you cross Bishopsgate and walk down 100 yards and you enter another world around Brick lane.
Obviously the lovely young man tried to say hello to my husband but realised his mistake and has probably not run as fast as he has since the last time he tried to mug the wrong bloke.
Must admit when Ian rang me to tell me about what happened I put the phone down and laughed.
Though it's actually not funny.
Shitholes, open a few poncy organic shops and a gastropub selling 'beers of the crafty type' (chortle) between the Payday Loan and Fried chicken shops, and the houses shoot up in price immediately. New build 'communities' going up on every spare bit of land for well-off professionals while clusters of blokes sit in the square supping White Ace at 9am.
No middle ground whatsoever.
Where's the Boris' water cannon when you need it?