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Ludicrous security
hoof_it_up_to_benty
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Was up in the disabled stand with my daughter above the NE quadrant when the lifts were switched off for 'security reasons' after the end of the match. Nobody had a clue what was going on and as you'd expect it was a complete shambles. Wheelchair users were marooned for a time and the whole operation was a farce.
Complete over reaction by either the police or the security and the communication was non-existent. I will be writing to my local MP to make a point about the ludicrous security arrangements at the club - they really don't have a clue.
Total lack of preparation by the club.
Complete over reaction by either the police or the security and the communication was non-existent. I will be writing to my local MP to make a point about the ludicrous security arrangements at the club - they really don't have a clue.
Total lack of preparation by the club.
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Absurd ...there need to be severe reprimands and warnings to the 'SMT' for thishoof_it_up_to_benty said:Was up in the disabled stand with my daughter above the NE quadrant when the lifts were switched off for 'security reasons' after the end of the match. Nobody had a clue what was going on and as you'd expect it was a complete shambles. Wheelchair users were marooned for a time and the whole operation was a farce.
Complete over reaction by either the police or the security and the communication was non-existent. I will be writing to my local MP to make a point about the ludicrous security arrangements at the club - they really don't have a clue.
Total lack of preparation by the club.3 -
Surely this is a case for the committee that provides the safety certificate?6
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Haven't they finished today.....TellyTubby said:Surely this is a case for the committee that provides the safety certificate?
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Total bunch of tossers. In front of the West Stand the blue jacket mob stood in front of disabled fans so they could not see for the last few minutes before the ref blow up early. Disgraceful2
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Get this publicised via your MP, paper and social media ...screw up their PR as much as possible.
Embarrass them and show them up for the incompetents that they are. We can roller-coaster this over the summer and help ramp up the protests whilst there are no games.1 -
Wouldn't this be an issue for the league to look into?1
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I think the football league observer at the match will be able to write a book about the errors made today by the club, and the police. Appalling that the police and stewards put the majority of their resources trying to prevent a pitch invasion from the North Lower, leaving them exposed at the South Stand which enabled Burnley fans to pour onto the pitch at the final whistle. The fact that a female police officer had to call an impromptu meeting in front of covered end with 20 or more of her colleagues demonstrated that they had lost control. Her solution? She had them line up facing a near empty North Stand! Unbelievable.9
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A friend of mine joined the blue bib brigade for this game (didn't realise until he tried to move me on from the sit in protest).
He has no experience in crowd safety, he's a personal trainer and in his words was told 'be ready for trouble'.
There was no strategy for managing supporters safety, it was a protect the club at all costs approach. His only instruction was 'follow me' from the supervisor and said they went in to melt down when we blocked both entrances to the car park.15 -
It was rather wonderful irony watching the cops fighting to hold back 20 charlton fans at the bottom of the NW quadrant when if they looked over their shoulders there were about 2000 Burnley fans on the pitch about 20 yards away..... You couldn't make it up!15
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The police and our security were completely clueless today and the communication was next to non-existent. If there was a major security incident they wouldn't have a clue.
I intend to make my local MP fully aware of the security/safety failings and ask them to investigate further.
It was comical the way things were dealt with10 -
Keystone Cops would have more idea than that shower on the pitch today.
Like the club, piss poor planning.
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I don't know of a restaurant or cinema that would search their 'customers' before entering the premises. Shameful, disgusting & humiliating.2
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Where did they get them from, some looked about 70 and/or overweight. They ones walking up and down in front in the East because they had no clue where they should be standing was laughable.0
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We are the enemy - guests to the restaurant from out of town are to be given first priority.3
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Incompetent bullying ignorant bastards the ones in blue hi-vi, totally clueless and just up for a bit of rough stuff. Disgraceful!1
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The way the Burnley fans behaved and reacted today demonstrated, and the general lack of violence (except to the poor sofa - tee hee) all showed that the problem here does not lie with football fans. The Football League needs to realise what the source of the problem is and use its rules to deal with them - ultimately the game should be run for its fans otherwise it will be nothing.15
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Definitely a crew from the worst side of the screws, ex pig and bouncer. Primed to have it large they were for sure the highest risk of violence in the stadium.2
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I stink bombed two of the cunts in the upper north toilet. When challenged I offered them the chance for a fight but smelling like that their mates wouldn't help them. Bullying pussies6
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Just hope it's costing them a fortune.2
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The "performance" of the stewards who would have been working under the orders of club staff encapsulated the utter ineptitude of the SMT perfectly.
The behaviour of the met police was equally reprehinsible. Many of them were spoiling for a ruck and I am surprised that batons weren't drawn when they were forcing back those trying to get on the pitch from the NW corner.
Worst of the lot were the blue jackets. Basically rent-a-mob who seemed to think any home supporter was fair game whilst standing back and letting Burnley fans do as they pleased.
I hope people push for assault charges to be issued.23 -
The blue bibs were shocking. Had to be restrained by our normal yellow bin guy and other fans.
If this happened outside a club, they would be in court. I hope this happens but fear it will not.1 -
I was not aware that wearing a blue-vis jacket allows you to assault people with no regards to the law. This cannot be right. Football supporters are again treated as 3rd citizens and questions whether policing a match have learnt from those tragic events at Hilsborough.4
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The interim regime are on a war footing. In there eyes the protests represent an insurgency that must be crushed, dishing out violence is just another of their crude tactics.1
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Unfortunately true ...but we will win this warBig in Brasov said:The interim regime are on a war footing. In there eyes the protests represent an insurgency that must be crushed, dishing out violence is just another of their crude tactics.
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They were using city of London police as well as the met.Hartleypete said:Just hope it's costing them a fortune.
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Just as a matter of interest. And I'm not trying to dig anyone out. But...
Today's heavy-handed security appeared (from what I have seen online, including a feed of the match) to be completely over the top.
We really need to ensure that the regime recognises that there is accountability for their actions. Whoever decided on the approach to be taken should be held to account. I really hope that no-one working for the club that is known to be a Charlton fan had any responsibility for the stewarding/policing.
Similarly, I assume that there must be some way (via the Mayor?) of getting some idea about the rationale for the police actions, and whether they are deemed acceptable. It's the first time I've seen police set themselves up to act against the home fans to such an extent (sort of used to it when at an away game, even if I don't like it).1 -
an extra 8 Territorial Support Groups were brought in, (which at least some were the city police in black) added late last night, extra horse units were on standby also. None of which will be cheap.guinnessaddick said:
They were using city of London police as well as the met.Hartleypete said:Just hope it's costing them a fortune.
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Who said police can't be bought3
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My sense was that the security were totally wired and on a knife edge. Very stressed, and very over reactive, but nearly everything they did seemed to wind the situation up more.
Goodness knows how much it all must cost. I heard that the security company (or one of them) charged a premium of an extra £2 per hour per steward/security person for this event.
And wtf was occurring when that phalanx of dark forces marched up the pitch towards the Jimmy Seed?
Was it a question of 'well we've paid for them, we might as well use them'? I have been going since 1963 and never witnessed the Valley like that. Last time I saw that kind of security was when I went to see China v Holland with my nephew at the Workers Stadium in Beijing:
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