I remember back to a Bromley fans meeting a few years before Curbs went.
Murray when asked about Curbs possibly being approached by bigger clubs, dismissed it completely as though it didn't matter and stated (I thought at the time) with an air of arrogance "you will be surprised by who would be interested in managing us".
Well Richard, you were right about that. I was very surprised. Maybe your ego made the decision in that as well.
IMO ego is more likely the driver than his money back from the promised land which isn't going to happen.
I pray that the next incumbent gets shot of this hold he seems to have regarding finances, especially having told other people you knew the risks about your investment in CAFC, when it went belly up.
In a sad way, it is good we are not getting into premier league any time soon as it means Murray will not get his money, sorry for the other directors in his group
My intentionally level headed thoughts on Murray as follows...
He bought into an idea, a new direction for Charlton Athletic. He found it exciting for a few reasons. He was smitten by RDs wealth and thought it gave Charlton endless opportunities and most importantly, a big financial safety net.
On a more personal level, he was once again involved but could also take a bit of a backseat as it was no longer his money on the line going towards financing charlton. He is getting his money back too.
He was smitten by the regime which I believe from his perspective, to be genuine positive reasons and he actually did think Charlton would reap the rewards from "The richest owner in our history".
He now had it pretty good. He is literally getting paid to do.....absolutely nothing. His name is never mentioned on any work aspect of the club. He doesn't meet with fans either. It's weird and sounds utterly pointless. The money owed to Murrary must be back pocket change for RD so why not just pay him off and let go....it's like a slow death.
He did try and sell RD's vision on many occasions but no one believed in it that much at any point, not even at the start. I remember when he backed the appointment of fraeye in November. Yeh thanks dick.
Richard Murray is now cornered and what are his otions? In my opinion, via the embarrassment that this has all gone down the pan, his only real option is just to stay silent, as sad and stupid as that sounds.
If he speaks out AGAINST the regime and or resigns/is sacked as a result, he has just lost a very cushty job. He might be desperate to keep the job simply because he needs the income... that he won't get anywhere else. He is also still arguably involved with Charlton, which is apparently a club he loves....hmmmm
Roland Duchatelet calls the shots round here. Richard Murray isn't even on the radar (but can't fully rule out he is much more of a snake and does have extremely negative influences) Resigning and speaking out against RD may just be past the sell by date anyway. He should have taken drastic action ages ago. He knows exactly what a mess the club has become from top to bottom.
What can he do about it? It appears feck all. Or, he can do something but it's a case that he has literally just been a lucky twat his whole life. I don't believe that, I think he is currently completely powerless to everything related Charlton at the moment. Absolutely no influence. Such a strange strange job he now has.
If he speaks out FOR the regime now, then he will be saying something he no longer believes in himself. Evidence is there to prove this hasn't worked and your defending the indefefensible. I would have liked to have seen Murrarys face when he read RD's post boro club statement.
He has made a big mistake. I think it's half being a little gulible and buying into Roland's annoying beliefs and vision, and it's part just being simply quite neglectful of what he should be caring about and what he has a close connection with.
He has made a big mistake and he knows it....
Shouldn't be able to have it both ways Richard. You backed RD up....you should be man enough to stick by your mistake and at least own up to it or offer a decent fan understanding apology and acknowledgement.
You should explain your honest thoughts and stop hiding. It's not clever, everyone can see through it.
Murray is an easier target than RD in many ways. His home address and that of his brood who used to be Directors of Charlton can easily be found from Companies House. We should also be targeting the lawyers, bankers, advisors and other companies involved in the club''s day to day activities. Shame them in to giving up.
Did anyone notice in the November meeting video how aggravated he was at times. From his body language and his tone he came across as someone who thought it was an affront to even have this sort of meeting.
Did anyone notice in the November meeting video how aggravated he was at times. From his body language and his tone he came across as someone who thought it was an affront to even have this sort of meeting.
And when he wasn't doing that he was reading his phone. But as the great man says all the issues are a message board thing.
The man has no place in our club anymore, he simply should leave The Valley and never return
Did anyone notice in the November meeting video how aggravated he was at times. From his body language and his tone he came across as someone who thought it was an affront to even have this sort of meeting.
Yes, he spent more time looking at his phone under the table than concentrating on addressing the concerns of supporters.
He now had it pretty good. He is literally getting paid to do.....absolutely nothing. His name is never mentioned on any work aspect of the club. He doesn't meet with fans either. It's weird and sounds utterly pointless. The money owed to Murrary must be back pocket change for RD so why not just pay him off and let go....it's like a slow death.
Large subject this, but once again he is NOT being paid AFAIK. If he was it would have to be hidden abroad like KM, because payments to directors are zero in the accounts.
Did anyone notice in the November meeting video how aggravated he was at times. From his body language and his tone he came across as someone who thought it was an affront to even have this sort of meeting.
Yes, he spent more time looking at his phone under the table than concentrating on addressing the concerns of supporters.
I am sure a couple of times he was even having a cheeky peek at Katriens arse. A non exec director perk?
The big problem for us if a buyer comes along, is that we get stuck with RM again. he obviously makes it a condition of the sale and could be why a few potential buyers have walked away in the past.
Yes, he has loans in the club - fair enough, but he obviously is powerless in the boardroom.
We need a complete change - but we also need to be careful what we wish for, or we will get more of the same lunacy.
He seemed to disappear at HT at the same time as Meire and the rumour is she left the ground. If so Murray may have been providing a Shoulder to cry on - God knows she can't have many friends left atThe Valley.
No time for Murray now - with his experience he could have provided the check and balance against the mismanagement pervading every area of the club but seemingly choose to keep his mouth shut at every turn of events.
Like Duchatelet and Meire there is no way back for Murray either. All of them lame duck directors. The Club has no effective functioning Senior Management Team and currently no manager/coach for the football team. Worst case scenario if RD doesn't go is that he takes over on all executive decisions.
Back to Murray...................time for you to go as well Sir.
I think it's conceivable that both Meire and Murray were advised to leave the directors box so as not to provide a focus for the demonstrations should a pitch invasion occurred before the end or after.
His last utterance was the 'interview' (statement) where he droned on about the need for better communication. The rest is silence.
I would be interested to know if they remained in the ground. Even if advised not to come out for the second half for security reasons, they ought to have remained to congratulate the Burnley directors etc. If they actually headed off, hand in hand, then I think we have won an important battle.
Murray squandered all goodwill a long time ago. He is now every bit as much of this mess as Roland and Squirrel Face and can only expect the same treatment until he takes the rather large hint and buggers off.
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Murray when asked about Curbs possibly being approached by bigger clubs, dismissed it completely as though it didn't matter and stated (I thought at the time) with an air of arrogance "you will be surprised by who would be interested in managing us".
Well Richard, you were right about that. I was very surprised. Maybe your ego made the decision in that as well.
IMO ego is more likely the driver than his money back from the promised land which isn't going to happen.
I pray that the next incumbent gets shot of this hold he seems to have regarding finances, especially having told other people you knew the risks about your investment in CAFC, when it went belly up.
He put his money in fair play. But if you watch those interviews back now, he still looks like a twat then.
Benefit of hindsight.
That ship has sailed, a long time ago.
Sad, when you think how highly he was thought of by the fans.
He bought into an idea, a new direction for Charlton Athletic. He found it exciting for a few reasons. He was smitten by RDs wealth and thought it gave Charlton endless opportunities and most importantly, a big financial safety net.
On a more personal level, he was once again involved but could also take a bit of a backseat as it was no longer his money on the line going towards financing charlton. He is getting his money back too.
He was smitten by the regime which I believe from his perspective, to be genuine positive reasons and he actually did think Charlton would reap the rewards from "The richest owner in our history".
He now had it pretty good. He is literally getting paid to do.....absolutely nothing. His name is never mentioned on any work aspect of the club. He doesn't meet with fans either. It's weird and sounds utterly pointless. The money owed to Murrary must be back pocket change for RD so why not just pay him off and let go....it's like a slow death.
He did try and sell RD's vision on many occasions but no one believed in it that much at any point, not even at the start. I remember when he backed the appointment of fraeye in November. Yeh thanks dick.
Richard Murray is now cornered and what are his otions? In my opinion, via the embarrassment that this has all gone down the pan, his only real option is just to stay silent, as sad and stupid as that sounds.
If he speaks out AGAINST the regime and or resigns/is sacked as a result, he has just lost a very cushty job. He might be desperate to keep the job simply because he needs the income... that he won't get anywhere else. He is also still arguably involved with Charlton, which is apparently a club he loves....hmmmm
Roland Duchatelet calls the shots round here. Richard Murray isn't even on the radar (but can't fully rule out he is much more of a snake and does have extremely negative influences)
Resigning and speaking out against RD may just be past the sell by date anyway. He should have taken drastic action ages ago. He knows exactly what a mess the club has become from top to bottom.
What can he do about it? It appears feck all. Or, he can do something but it's a case that he has literally just been a lucky twat his whole life. I don't believe that, I think he is currently completely powerless to everything related Charlton at the moment. Absolutely no influence. Such a strange strange job he now has.
If he speaks out FOR the regime now, then he will be saying something he no longer believes in himself. Evidence is there to prove this hasn't worked and your defending the indefefensible. I would have liked to have seen Murrarys face when he read RD's post boro club statement.
He has made a big mistake. I think it's half being a little gulible and buying into Roland's annoying beliefs and vision, and it's part just being simply quite neglectful of what he should be caring about and what he has a close connection with.
He has made a big mistake and he knows it....
Shouldn't be able to have it both ways Richard. You backed RD up....you should be man enough to stick by your mistake and at least own up to it or offer a decent fan understanding apology and acknowledgement.
You should explain your honest thoughts and stop hiding. It's not clever, everyone can see through it.
We should also be targeting the lawyers, bankers, advisors and other companies involved in the club''s day to day activities. Shame them in to giving up.
The man has no place in our club anymore, he simply should leave The Valley and never return
Build a bonfire,
Put the Belgians on top,
Throw Murray in the middle,
And burn the fucking lot!
he obviously makes it a condition of the sale and could be why a few potential buyers have walked away in the past.
Yes, he has loans in the club - fair enough, but he obviously is powerless in the boardroom.
We need a complete change - but we also need to be careful what we wish for, or we will get more of the same lunacy.
If so Murray may have been providing a Shoulder to cry on - God knows she can't have many friends left atThe Valley.
No time for Murray now - with his experience he could have provided the check and balance against the mismanagement pervading every area of the club but seemingly choose to keep his mouth shut at every turn of events.
Like Duchatelet and Meire there is no way back for Murray either. All of them lame duck directors.
The Club has no effective functioning Senior Management Team and currently no manager/coach for the football team.
Worst case scenario if RD doesn't go is that he takes over on all executive decisions.
Back to Murray...................time for you to go as well Sir.
I also doubt that either shed any tears.
I would be interested to know if they remained in the ground. Even if advised not to come out for the second half for security reasons, they ought to have remained to congratulate the Burnley directors etc. If they actually headed off, hand in hand, then I think we have won an important battle.
Murray squandered all goodwill a long time ago. He is now every bit as much of this mess as Roland and Squirrel Face and can only expect the same treatment until he takes the rather large hint and buggers off.