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Other clubs and their protests
25May98
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Being completely lazy, I thought you lot (who are better than Google) might fill me in on the following.
How successful have protests been at other clubs?
The first discontent I can remember (aside from the Valley in September 85) was at St. James park in the late 80's early 90's. We won 2-0 and during the game the Geordies were singing 'sack the board'. We joined in with this and sang the same (though I think the Geordies were not too happy about this).
Since then there have been several notable protests but if I'm being honest I have not really bothered myself with them. 'Not my team' , 'nothing to do with me' etc.... I think there are now many Charlton fans who will be far more sympathetic towards clubs with serious ownership problems.
Wimbledon, Blackpool, Aston Villa, Northampton, Brighton, Cardiff, Man utd, etc.... They have (along with many others) had their problems with owners. What has been the outcome? Man Utd didn't like the Glazers, formed a new team who now have their own ground etc..., but they are still owned by the Glazers. Cardiff changed colours etc....still owned by Tan. Blackpool threw tennis balls and invaded the pitch....still owned by Oystens.
IF there was a league table of the greatest protest groups how would CARD fair? Aston Villa praised us very recently. I have had conversations with friends who are very impressed at the way CARD are operating.
I guess my big question is, if Roland does not sell, when do we just 'put up with' or form AFC Charlton. Have Blackpool given up?
Thank you so much in advance.
How successful have protests been at other clubs?
The first discontent I can remember (aside from the Valley in September 85) was at St. James park in the late 80's early 90's. We won 2-0 and during the game the Geordies were singing 'sack the board'. We joined in with this and sang the same (though I think the Geordies were not too happy about this).
Since then there have been several notable protests but if I'm being honest I have not really bothered myself with them. 'Not my team' , 'nothing to do with me' etc.... I think there are now many Charlton fans who will be far more sympathetic towards clubs with serious ownership problems.
Wimbledon, Blackpool, Aston Villa, Northampton, Brighton, Cardiff, Man utd, etc.... They have (along with many others) had their problems with owners. What has been the outcome? Man Utd didn't like the Glazers, formed a new team who now have their own ground etc..., but they are still owned by the Glazers. Cardiff changed colours etc....still owned by Tan. Blackpool threw tennis balls and invaded the pitch....still owned by Oystens.
IF there was a league table of the greatest protest groups how would CARD fair? Aston Villa praised us very recently. I have had conversations with friends who are very impressed at the way CARD are operating.
I guess my big question is, if Roland does not sell, when do we just 'put up with' or form AFC Charlton. Have Blackpool given up?
Thank you so much in advance.
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He'll sell. CARD has more patience than him, more creativity than him and more support than him.
He has more to lose than CARD, both in terms of cash and reputation.
He'll sell. Don't worry.
In any case, there are far more of us than him.6 -
I think there are differences between our situation and the likes of Blackpool, Cardiff and so on. One of the main ones is that our owner has previous experience of selling a club due to adverse fan action; notably Roland's departure from Standard Liege.
Interestingly, we also seem to be gaining some form of success:- our own CEO is not allowed to have any words attributed to her any longer as she's a PR liability;
- respected members of staff are leaving, whilst the recruitment of new ones is proving to be very difficult;
- mentions from the Training Ground protest suggested that things may not be sustainable come December;
- the club has graciously provided us with a few PR defeats of their own, such as Roland's statement;
- we seem to have entered a new phase, whereby the club is getting very desperate
On the subject of Blackpool, they are an interesting one - if only because they were the first time I really paid to fan unrest in football. I really didn't foresee us following in their footsteps two years later though - although their choice of manager in Jose should've been a warning sign!
I believe there were rumours that the Oystons are reluctant to sell because the due diligence process may cast a few questions in regards to their financial management of the club. At the very least though, I'm sure they'll enjoy the chance to talk to Katrien about fan engagement next season... 8 -
Avoid Blackpool on your fixed odds coupon on the last Saturday of this month.0
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CARD is far from finished so our protest will probably head up the league table. I always liked Brighton's protest mainly because of the solidarity of it. our fans and other clubs fans turned up in numbers to support the seagulls to protest against the selling of their ground. Didn't stop it though.
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Bloody hell Karim - I'm pretty sure that's me and my son at the Goldstone.
Fair few Charlton there that day.0 -
Protests against something specific and easy to change seem to be the most successful
The Liverpool £76 protest for example was an easy U turn for the club to make, similarly changing the Cardiff shirts back to blue.
It's major issues such as changing owners or reversing decisions to leave a ground which are much harder to succeed with. Leeds have been a joke off the field for years now, for example0 -
I read on a Brighton forum that Charlton supported them in numbers when they had their troubles. I think they will be getting behind us on April 23rd (before enjoying their promotion party).Karim_myBagheri said:CARD is far from finished so our protest will probably head up the league table. I always liked Brighton's protest mainly because of the solidarity of it. our fans and other clubs fans turned up in numbers to support the seagulls to protest against the selling of their ground. Didn't stop it though.
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A lot of Charlton fans gave their support to Brighton and it is remembered by them25May98 said:
I read on a Brighton forum that Charlton supported them in numbers when they had their troubles. I think they will be getting behind us on April 23rd (before enjoying their promotion party).Karim_myBagheri said:CARD is far from finished so our protest will probably head up the league table. I always liked Brighton's protest mainly because of the solidarity of it. our fans and other clubs fans turned up in numbers to support the seagulls to protest against the selling of their ground. Didn't stop it though.
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I think as we knew what it was like to lose and fight for our home made it an easy choice whether to support them or not. I think Brighton and Wimbledon will be very supportive of our current circumstances. As will leeds, Bolton, villa and Blackpool. Any others who have had recentish troubles?0
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They will be sympathetic, but (at the moment) it's not in the same league as us playing at Palace and Brighton ground sharing with Gillingham!25May98 said:
I read on a Brighton forum that Charlton supported them in numbers when they had their troubles. I think they will be getting behind us on April 23rd (before enjoying their promotion party).Karim_myBagheri said:CARD is far from finished so our protest will probably head up the league table. I always liked Brighton's protest mainly because of the solidarity of it. our fans and other clubs fans turned up in numbers to support the seagulls to protest against the selling of their ground. Didn't stop it though.
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