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Club statement-T20k and Fans Forum

TellyTubbyTellyTubby
in General Charlton
It is widely accepted that the club have now declared war on the fans rather than try dialogue.

Now the club have openly started dirty tricks by mixing the protests with totally unrelated arch violence they have ramped up the anti. I personally find the statement offensive that they try to tar CARD protests as violent and illegal. I am amazed too that the Police are happy to go along with this rubbish.

It is even clearer now than ever that the regime hates the concept of a supporter. By their actions they show that they are getting more desperate but they are showing their real colours too.

After this latest attack on us, is it not the final straw for T20k and Fans Forum? Surely these groups should jointly make a statement that they withdraw all cooperation from the club?

If these groups continue to meet with the club, it gives KM and Roland an option to claim that they meet with and listen to fans groups. I know that the members of these groups have the best interests of the club at heart and it is clear to me at least that the best way to serve that interest would be to publicly denounce the regime.
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  • Airman BrownAirman Brown
    edited March 2016
    We still need to hear from the Fans' Forum whether any non-employee of their number met RD or if this claim was another lie by the club, don't we?
  • TellyTubbyTellyTubby
    Airman Brown said:

    We still need to hear from the Fans' Forum whether any non-employee of their number met RD or if this claim was another lie by the club, don't we?

    It would be good to have a definitive answer. Lots of people on this forum have asked the question of who they claim to have met. It would be very strange if members of the FF did meet the rat as nobody has said they have.
  • TELTEL
    Im on the email list of the FF. No mention of any meeting or proposal to meet with RD has been mentioned in any correspondence that I have seen.
  • TELTEL
    Airman Brown said:

    TEL said:

    Im on the email list of the FF. No mention of any meeting or proposal to meet with RD has been mentioned in any correspondence that I have seen.

    Someone from the FF needs to put this point back to the club then so they can withdraw it and apologise, as they have with Target 20k.
    Ok, Ive emailed the question and the suggestion that the club be taken to task if its a fib about them meeting with a select few from the FF. For all I know I may have been deleted as there hasnt been any correspondence since early Feb and the POTY discussion.
  • legaladdicklegaladdick
    Airman Brown said:

    TEL said:

    Im on the email list of the FF. No mention of any meeting or proposal to meet with RD has been mentioned in any correspondence that I have seen.

    Someone from the FF needs to put this point back to the club then so they can withdraw it and apologise, as they have with Target 20k.
    Airman are you saying that the club has acknowledged misrepresenting the involvement of Target 20k? I can see the joint Met statement on the OS but nothing relating to Roly 'meeting the fans' and Target 20k
  • cfgscfgs
    All points to the fact that they are worried and attempting to tar CARD in the hope the less committed will return to the fold. They are not only losing the plot, but also the war.
  • legaladdicklegaladdick
    Ah! I've seen the retraction on the other thread. Still be nice to see it on the OS as well.
  • Cardinal SinCardinal Sin
    legaladdick said:

    Ah! I've seen the retraction on the other thread. Still be nice to see it on the OS as well.

    Surely this offence warrants a New Scotland Yard follow-up?
  • addick1965addick1965
    New Scotland Yard involved my arse!
    Another lie?
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  • TELTEL
    Had one reply from a FF member so far, he has no knowledge of any meeting.
  • cafcfancafcfan
    addick1965 said:

    New Scotland Yard involved my arse!
    Another lie?

    I suspect not. All constabularies will have experts in matters to do with football clubs that individual may be based at Scotland Yard.

    In addition, while the club will have been footing the bill for extra on-premises police, the Met will have been picking up the tab for extra policing around the ground. In any event, both will have caused them some inconvenience as they only have so many officers/horses to go round. And the Mounted Branch comes under Central Operations.

    I suspect, therefore that the local commander has been wingeing about the strain on local policing to her bosses and the club got dragged in to a meeting.

    (However, I have heard that a new specialist Beachball Unit is being trained up to become part of CO11)
  • stonemusestonemuse
    TEL said:

    Another confirmation of no contact. I think we know where this is all going dont we?

    If ... and I admit it's a big if ... someone from the Fans Forum met with Roland, they may not be willing to admit to it.

    However, surely the approach would have been made formally to the 'chair' of this group. Can you check with them?
  • TELTEL
    stonemuse said:

    TEL said:

    Another confirmation of no contact. I think we know where this is all going dont we?

    If ... and I admit it's a big if ... someone from the Fans Forum met with Roland, they may not be willing to admit to it.

    However, surely the approach would have been made formally to the 'chair' of this group. Can you check with them?
    The email chain is to all members within the FF. I've included everyone on the list. So far 4 replies...all have no knowledge.
  • GranpaGranpa
    The gloves are off !
  • TELTEL
    10 denials now. The trust guy has now started a new email thread asking the same thing.
  • SE10AddickSE10Addick
    Has anyone asked the Met police if they've actually met the club in relation to the protests?

    For all we know it's just been routine meetings and the club have put a slant on it and released a 'statement'
  • HexHex
    SE10Addick said:

    Has anyone asked the Met police if they've actually met the club in relation to the protests?

    For all we know it's just been routine meetings and the club have put a slant on it and released a 'statement'

    See CARD statement.
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  • Leeds_AddickLeeds_Addick
    SE10Addick said:

    Has anyone asked the Met police if they've actually met the club in relation to the protests?

    For all we know it's just been routine meetings and the club have put a slant on it and released a 'statement'

    They have. Mr Mendez enquired about it and the met confirmed. CARD also met with the police a day later I believe.
  • cabblescabbles
    Rizzo said:

    That in itself is worthy of a statement, or at least a question.

    This week, the club has met with:
    a) The Met Police
    b) T20K
    c) The Fans Forum
    d) None of the above

    e) Interviewed 28 applicants for the role of manager for when Riga is sacked in September
    f) appointed Karel Frayere as future interim manager for when Riga is sacked in September
  • iaitchiaitch
    Surely Bob Peeters follows Riga?
  • AFKABartramAFKABartram
    Fans Forum is effectively a dead body imo, and exactly what the club wants. No slight on any of the users who have kindly given their time to it
  • henrythecathenrythecat
    TellyTubby said:

    Is it possible that there are talks behind the scenes within the Fans Forum and T20k?

    I am surprised that the FF members haven't been more damning yet. I do hope that this is the final straw for them. Although I understand the issues around poty I think this is just too much.

    As for T20k I have never understood why the members of this group would go along with such an obvious vehicle to use supporters' good will. The aim is a embarrassment in the circumstances.

    I would ask both groups to publically suspend all cooperation with the regime as it is using you all.

    I'm not sure that T20K or FF would be described as 'partners', the term used in the correction email. 'Partner' suggests to me that there is a more formal relationship with the club.
  • TellyTubbyTellyTubby
    I meant that members would hopefully be debating their possible response. My take is that the talks included people like Sue Parkes who would be guaranteed to give rat the feedback he wanted to hear rather than how it is.

    The term 'partners' is weird and they are clearly trying to hide something that would piss us off even more.
  • TellyTubbyTellyTubby
    AFKABartram said:

    Fans Forum is effectively a dead body imo, and exactly what the club wants. No slight on any of the users who have kindly given their time to it

    I am sure you are right and I applaud anybody who gives up their time and skills to support a cause that they believe in.

    All the more reason to call a halt to KM and roland using them.
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