According to Sky Sports News, nearly half the Premiership have come out in support for the other relegation threatened teams. What this means to us is anyone's guess, but perhaps crucial that we finish 18th?
It's clutching at straws, but surely the Premier League can't ignore half of it's member teams?
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We're not talking about a breakaway - and top London clubs might join in if it means they can send West Ham down.
Is there supposed to be a joint statement from us and the other three before the weekend and the "final" table is decided? I assume we're allowing the dust to settle on Monday's result first?
The Premier League found West Ham guilty of lying and cheating over the registration of West Ham's player of the year - that really should have been 10 points docked and it is a scandal that the PL have failed to exercise thier authority. All that said, we have not been good enough, and, I repeat:
we have been relegated, stop clutching at straws!
i don't for one minute think by appealing we would get to stay up, nor do i think we should
i like the fact that charlton have thrown their names into the ring to support the fact that the decision was/is scandallous, the fact we've been relegated, i hope, has nothing to do with it, if we were 16th then i'd expect us to put our full support behind the other clubs that would be affected by this
we weren't directly disadvantaged by tevez and west ham, as we beat them with him in the team, but wigan have every right to be upset, whether they are relegated or stay up. and i think every team in the bottom half at least should support the decision for justice.
I don't believe it makes charlton look bad at all.
Chance, snowball, hell, etc, etc.
thats so wrong! i can't believe they've been allowed to get away with it!!!
edited to say: its the premierleague at fault not west ham.
At this rate the Premier League will continue to develop their responses on a convenience basis and would probably dish out a few fines if faced with a refereeing scandal of Italian proportions rather than tackle a bigger club.
If they don't sort this and the weakened teams fiasco out then the Premier League is not the competition (with merit payments) they are selling worldwide and chickens will come home to roost
There has never been an issue with tevez being registered as a west ham player, therefore he has never been registered illegally.
There has also never been a problem with him not being owned by west ham as such, in much the same way there isn't a problem with liverpool not owning Mascherano.
The problem was the "3rd party influence" clause in the initial contract. This has now been ripped up, and the premier league are now satisfied with the situation.
I think I am correct in saying the clause in question (3rd party influence) related to MSI being able to sell tevez in the transfer window giving west ham compensation if they did so.
As i've said before, the premier league have bottled it and have cocked up. Thats not our fault.
Regardless, with respect to all the whinging from other clubs, if you cannot get 40 points on the board in a season you should not really have any complaints if your relegated.
however, there are plenty of unanswered questions that the premierleague have tried to sweep under the carpet. its not west hams fault, and i couldn't care less who stays or who comes down with us, the 3rd worst team in the prem whoever that may be, however, i do stick by the fact that there has been something dodgy going on, whether itt be by west ham, msl, or the premier league, that only came to light when mascharano left (and got to play for 3 clubs in a season? with special permission!!!) and then why when that transfer got sorted out did it take 3 more months for west ham to receive their punishment?
its nothing to do with charlton going down, we deserve to, its just sticking up for what is right in the premier league, i would expect all clubs to do the same.
Watford - Drew one, lost one
Charlton - Won one, drew one
Wigan - Won one, lost one
Sheff U - Won one, lost one
Fulham - drew both
In fact, the only game against any relegation rivals tevez had an effect on was away to wigan.
Just playing Devil's Advocate a bit here, but if it were not West Ham but another club that had done this and got the same punishment, how would you feel? Would you feel slightly aggrieved that they had got away with a percieved lighter punishment? If I were a WH fan, then right now I would be thinking "Phew, got away with that!".
*ahem*!!?!??!?!
your whole post, especially this above part is totally spot on.
Got shit all to do with us going down, its just not right, it may be boring now, but westham would of acted the same as the rest of the involved clubs for defo, infact its a shame it was west ham, we'd of had ol sir trev in the fa relegating the team that did it!! (Winky smiley thing before someone gets out there pram!)
The whole day was a blur, i thought we drew didn't we?
you're getting confused. MCS 'drew' on your back. you (west ham) indeed lost that game. sorry to break it to ya :-)
We have definitely got away with it, no denying that.
I would feel aggrieved but if we didn't win enough points we couldn't really grumble.
Sir trev works for the FA, totally seperate from the premier league sonny (winky smiley thing)
darn it :-)
We fully deserve to go down, not arguing otherwise. And it is much better for us if Wigan come down instead of West Ham, but I still think the Premier League have been scandalous in their light treatment of this offence. And in thier heel dragging.
Its like someone getting fined for carrying a dangerous weapon and then being allowed to keep using it because they have already been fined. Dont get it.
But i really hope west ham stay up because i hate trying to compete with them.
As I understand it, the problem isn't with the registration or the ownership mate as i mentioned earlier in the thread. He's always been registered to play for west ham legally.
Agree about the heel dragging though.
1. The whole thing stinks and West Ham should definitely have been docked points; but
2. I now hope they stay up as it would make our job next season a little easy in my view.