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Rhys Williams

This lad has had an awful start to his loan period. I am really dissapointed as the soundbites indicated that he was just the type of player we needed.
I took the opportunity to look up his Wiki page and have seen that he played 127 games for Middlesboro and 14 for his country. To be fair neither of them could be considered slouches.Has been club captain and described as a firm favourite at Boro. Still only 27 as well.
Have we signed the right player, or is he still up there at Riverside. Cmon on Rhys prove us wrong as from now!
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    Like the second coming of Danny Seabourne

    Shuddered at that. I had forgotten him thankyou!
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    It's a sign of a predicament that we are now a rehabilitation centre for the best team in the Championship.
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    Missed It said:

    Trouble is, he is precisely the sort of player we should not be signing in our current situation.

    Two serious injuries, played only two games in the last two years, lacking match fitness, only here for 28 days. I've got nothing against the bloke, he just wants to get fit and play but we can't afford to be the ones nursing him back into football. We needed an experienced centre half who could step straight into the first team and take command.

    It really is a joke signing and sums up Charlton's incompetent and desperate player recruitment.

    You have made some very valid points there. I did think he had played more games than that. Two is as good as none really.
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    You get what you pay for really, we're able to get him on a 28-day cheap loan because he is far, far from being sharp & fit but his track record says that he's a decent player.

    If we wanted a decent player who is on form, you have to pay for it - and we're clearly not willing to do that.
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    Missed It said:

    Trouble is, he is precisely the sort of player we should not be signing in our current situation.

    Two serious injuries, played only two games in the last two years, lacking match fitness, only here for 28 days. I've got nothing against the bloke, he just wants to get fit and play but we can't afford to be the ones nursing him back into football. We needed an experienced centre half who could step straight into the first team and take command.

    It really is a joke signing and sums up Charlton's incompetent and desperate player recruitment.

    But then where do you get a match fit, experienced centre half in January, unless you spend big money to prise a first team regular from one of your rivals? Or do a swap deal?

    The experienced players available are generally those who can't get in the team, and hence aren't match fit. Morrison, for example I imagine wasn't fully match fit when he joined Birmingham.

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    A quote from my Boro supporting mate after I complained about Williams that sums his signing up nicely: 'the last I saw of him he was a decent footballer, but since then I've got married, moved twice and got two new jobs'.

    Whatever Williams once was or had the potential to be is historical now, and picking him up was essentially picking up a player without having done a single moment's scouting. He was signed based on the fact he was a footballer two years ago with no data or judgment to go on inbetween, and the vague hope that nothing could possibly change if a player misses two years of football. Our club is insane.
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    Fingers crossed he can start showing us why he's a fan favourite up there. Middlesbrough's current back line is doing just fine without him so can see loan being extended.

    Granted, Rhys is a sticking plaster for a defene that needs its own A&E.
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    Given his bad injuries and lack of game time in the last two years this must have been a very cheap loan that was always unlikely to be a success.

    Roland. We are going down mate. Cheap punts are not the answer.
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    Missed It said:

    Trouble is, he is precisely the sort of player we should not be signing in our current situation.

    Two serious injuries, played only two games in the last two years, lacking match fitness, only here for 28 days. I've got nothing against the bloke, he just wants to get fit and play but we can't afford to be the ones nursing him back into football. We needed an experienced centre half who could step straight into the first team and take command.

    It really is a joke signing and sums up Charlton's incompetent and desperate player recruitment.

    But then where do you get a match fit, experienced centre half in January, unless you spend big money to prise a first team regular from one of your rivals? Or do a swap deal?

    The experienced players available are generally those who can't get in the team, and hence aren't match fit. Morrison, for example I imagine wasn't fully match fit when he joined Birmingham.

    No, you're absolutely right. I've said on here before, you do not get good value with January transfer window. The wholes in the squad should have been addressed in the summer.

    This has happened every year since Duchatlelet took over. The squad is assembled in the summer with an inadequate budget (and I suspect a strict limit on headcount/positions) and when it is shown to be inadequate over the first half of the season, typical January cast-offs are used to plug the gaps.

    There is no strategy to build a competitive squad over several seasons like Charlton did back in Curbishley's day. The best players are there to be sold, everybody else is there to make up the numbers.
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    The way I see it Roland is only interested in promotion on as lean a budget as he sees necessary. He spends what HE thinks is enough regardless of squad size or quality and IF we were to be in a very strong position to push on in any given January, I genuinely think he would have a punt. Otherwise he's content to accept being an also ran with no or little financial outlay.
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    Just hope he's not become a Footballer that has been injured so often he's just happy to be playing Football again yet at the same time is terrified that another horrible injury could be just round the corner.

    Its like Grant Basey... He slowly dropped through the Leagues and is playing at a level so that he can enjoy the game yet its not the end of the world if he gets injured as he's another job (I presume so) to fall back on to
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    Missed It said:

    Missed It said:

    Trouble is, he is precisely the sort of player we should not be signing in our current situation.

    Two serious injuries, played only two games in the last two years, lacking match fitness, only here for 28 days. I've got nothing against the bloke, he just wants to get fit and play but we can't afford to be the ones nursing him back into football. We needed an experienced centre half who could step straight into the first team and take command.

    It really is a joke signing and sums up Charlton's incompetent and desperate player recruitment.

    But then where do you get a match fit, experienced centre half in January, unless you spend big money to prise a first team regular from one of your rivals? Or do a swap deal?

    The experienced players available are generally those who can't get in the team, and hence aren't match fit. Morrison, for example I imagine wasn't fully match fit when he joined Birmingham.

    No, you're absolutely right. I've said on here before, you do not get good value with January transfer window. The wholes in the squad should have been addressed in the summer.

    This has happened every year since Duchatlelet took over. The squad is assembled in the summer with an inadequate budget (and I suspect a strict limit on headcount/positions) and when it is shown to be inadequate over the first half of the season, typical January cast-offs are used to plug the gaps.

    There is no strategy to build a competitive squad over several seasons like Charlton did back in Curbishley's day. The best players are there to be sold, everybody else is there to make up the numbers.
    I don't know if the summer budget was large enough, but on Saturday NONE of the summer signings started, and only 2 were on the bench, so maybe it's the wrong players being signed that is the issue? What happened to Ba, for example?
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    Just hope he's not become a Footballer that has been injured so often he's just happy to be playing Football again yet at the same time is terrified that another horrible injury could be just round the corner.

    Its like Grant Basey... He slowly dropped through the Leagues and is playing at a level so that he can enjoy the game yet its not the end of the world if he gets injured as he's another job (I presume so) to fall back on to

    Forever, He is now a Lecturer at North West Kent College. Sports Science I believe.
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    When RD is gone we need a proper scouting network to be reinstated ASAP. A team of people who know what they are doing.
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    He was truly terrible. But we shouldn't be plugging the holes of Morrison, Dervite and Gomez with a player just coming back from a long-term injury. 3/4 of that back four are nowhere near good enough.
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    pettgra said:

    Just hope he's not become a Footballer that has been injured so often he's just happy to be playing Football again yet at the same time is terrified that another horrible injury could be just round the corner.

    Its like Grant Basey... He slowly dropped through the Leagues and is playing at a level so that he can enjoy the game yet its not the end of the world if he gets injured as he's another job (I presume so) to fall back on to

    Forever, He is now a Lecturer at North West Kent College. Sports Science I believe.
    Basey is now more of a cricketer than a footballer!
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    Leuth said:

    pettgra said:

    Just hope he's not become a Footballer that has been injured so often he's just happy to be playing Football again yet at the same time is terrified that another horrible injury could be just round the corner.

    Its like Grant Basey... He slowly dropped through the Leagues and is playing at a level so that he can enjoy the game yet its not the end of the world if he gets injured as he's another job (I presume so) to fall back on to

    Forever, He is now a Lecturer at North West Kent College. Sports Science I believe.
    Basey is now more of a cricketer than a footballer!
    Now thats a proper sport. I hate football, for the time being anyway.
    I think he is turning out for VCD, who was he playing cricket for Leuth?
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    Missed It said:

    Trouble is, he is precisely the sort of player we should not be signing in our current situation.

    Two serious injuries, played only two games in the last two years, lacking match fitness, only here for 28 days. I've got nothing against the bloke, he just wants to get fit and play but we can't afford to be the ones nursing him back into football. We needed an experienced centre half who could step straight into the first team and take command.

    It really is a joke signing and sums up Charlton's incompetent and desperate player recruitment.

    And that sums it up perfectly.

    Nothing more to be said.
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    pettgra said:

    Leuth said:

    pettgra said:

    Just hope he's not become a Footballer that has been injured so often he's just happy to be playing Football again yet at the same time is terrified that another horrible injury could be just round the corner.

    Its like Grant Basey... He slowly dropped through the Leagues and is playing at a level so that he can enjoy the game yet its not the end of the world if he gets injured as he's another job (I presume so) to fall back on to

    Forever, He is now a Lecturer at North West Kent College. Sports Science I believe.
    Basey is now more of a cricketer than a footballer!
    Now thats a proper sport. I hate football, for the time being anyway.
    I think he is turning out for VCD, who was he playing cricket for Leuth?
    Yep, i watched him play Phoenix over Christmas.

    Still got a good left foot, but he's as big as an house.
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    Williams was a very talented player and was rated as one of Boro's best but he's been wrecked by injuries and I suspect his career there is well and truly over. The poor bloke's performance on Saturday was on a par with Mike Small's at Millwall in 1994.

    Presumably the reason we signed him is that we contribute only a nominal amount to his wages or, alternatively, nothing. Nice work, Katrien - maybe also Karel's way of leaving a mess on the carpet on the way out.
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    Our club is insane.

    No Garrymanilow, it's the bloody owner who wants his brain checking, but I think you will find that RD's only priority is not to lose money. He cares nothing about the football situation apparently, just the assets and how he can best exploit them before he walks away our Club.
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    pettgra said:

    Leuth said:

    pettgra said:

    Just hope he's not become a Footballer that has been injured so often he's just happy to be playing Football again yet at the same time is terrified that another horrible injury could be just round the corner.

    Its like Grant Basey... He slowly dropped through the Leagues and is playing at a level so that he can enjoy the game yet its not the end of the world if he gets injured as he's another job (I presume so) to fall back on to

    Forever, He is now a Lecturer at North West Kent College. Sports Science I believe.
    Basey is now more of a cricketer than a footballer!
    Now thats a proper sport. I hate football, for the time being anyway.
    I think he is turning out for VCD, who was he playing cricket for Leuth?
    Yep, i watched him play Phoenix over Christmas.

    Still got a good left foot, but he's as big as an house.
    Just big boned?
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    id guess part of the loan deal is we have to play him---so far its been right back,left back and mid field. the only constant is he is dog shit.

    This is the standard of player we can "recruit".Even if Roland opens his wallet (he wont) no one will come here.
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    pettgra said:

    Leuth said:

    pettgra said:

    Just hope he's not become a Footballer that has been injured so often he's just happy to be playing Football again yet at the same time is terrified that another horrible injury could be just round the corner.

    Its like Grant Basey... He slowly dropped through the Leagues and is playing at a level so that he can enjoy the game yet its not the end of the world if he gets injured as he's another job (I presume so) to fall back on to

    Forever, He is now a Lecturer at North West Kent College. Sports Science I believe.
    Basey is now more of a cricketer than a footballer!
    Now thats a proper sport. I hate football, for the time being anyway.
    I think he is turning out for VCD, who was he playing cricket for Leuth?
    Yep, i watched him play Phoenix over Christmas.

    Still got a good left foot, but he's as big as an house.
    The new Rob Key :smile:
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    He was absolutely fucking TERRIBLE at Hull .. we simply have not got the time nor the points in hand to break him in gently .. any loanees must be up to speed and fit from the get go .. send him back to 'Boro, he's a waste of money
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    He was absolutely fucking TERRIBLE at Hull .. we simply have not got the time nor the points in hand to break him in gently .. any loanees must be up to speed and fit from the get go .. send him back to 'Boro, he's a waste of money

    Spot on Lincs.
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