if we get a draw at colchester the replay would be a cash game so would we be inclined to not attend at all and risk going out of cup as no support there or attend fully and support the team?.
Or, turn up,go into West Stand,give the team support,and give the regime pelters.
fair play but we cant boycott not buy anything for a few games then just hand over 100k in ticket sales worked that on 3000 visiting colchester fans and 7000 home fans at £10.00 a ticket
Regardless of results (which I don't expect to materially improve under the stated strategy), signings and any flannel spun in dialogue meetings via the Trust or Valley Gold or elsewhere this Board of Duchatalet, Meire and Murray is not to be trusted and I won't support them for the remainder of their (hopefully short) tenure after the complete ignorance, arrogance and naivety they've shown both on and off the pitch and the great contempt they have demonstrated to supporters of OUR club.
I hope a run of good results, signings or soundbites doesn't dampen the weekend's enthusiasm amongst supporters for removing them from owning and running the club. Too much ill feeling and beyond repair for me. Any changes at this stage is merely lip service as the mindset and arrogance of their "strategy" being the right way is too deeply ingrained.
We need to do things that won't inconvenience the fans and won't harm the club (ie get us fined, deducted points or made to look like thugs in the media). Boycotts a good start, and of everything from programmes to food and drink (toilets exempt from this action). If that woman is still there come the summer then nobody should buy new kit. Season ticket renewal is a personal choice but suspect a lot won't renew anyway if the Wicked Witch of the West Stand is still in situ.
We need to do things that won't inconvenience the fans and won't harm the club (ie get us fined, deducted points or made to look like thugs in the media). Boycotts a good start, and of everything from programmes to food and drink (toilets exempt from this action). If that woman is still there come the summer then nobody should buy new kit. Season ticket renewal is a personal choice but suspect a lot won't renew anyway if the Wicked Witch of the West Stand is still in situ.
As we move towards season ticket renewal time I think an organised boycott would be necessary, and could be very effective. I am not suggesting a match boycott, but losing the 2/3 million advance they get from ST sales will have an impact.
If they do not get the normal season ticket revenue in May/July RD will have to put his hand in his pocket big time to keep the club going and protect his investment.
At some point he will cut his losses and go, but it may not be yet.
We need to do things that won't inconvenience the fans and won't harm the club (ie get us fined, deducted points or made to look like thugs in the media). Boycotts a good start, and of everything from programmes to food and drink (toilets exempt from this action). If that woman is still there come the summer then nobody should buy new kit. Season ticket renewal is a personal choice but suspect a lot won't renew anyway if the Wicked Witch of the West Stand is still in situ.
Can someone post a picture of Katrien with a green face... the resemblance looks uncanny
We need to do things that won't inconvenience the fans and won't harm the club (ie get us fined, deducted points or made to look like thugs in the media). Boycotts a good start, and of everything from programmes to food and drink (toilets exempt from this action). If that woman is still there come the summer then nobody should buy new kit. Season ticket renewal is a personal choice but suspect a lot won't renew anyway if the Wicked Witch of the West Stand is still in situ.
Can someone post a picture of Katrien with a green face... the resemblance looks uncanny
Now she's firmly in the firing line, it'll be no good stalking her on the train or from the station, she'll be flying in on her broom if she's got any sense............Oh hang on a minute
We need to do things that won't inconvenience the fans and won't harm the club (ie get us fined, deducted points or made to look like thugs in the media). Boycotts a good start, and of everything from programmes to food and drink (toilets exempt from this action). If that woman is still there come the summer then nobody should buy new kit. Season ticket renewal is a personal choice but suspect a lot won't renew anyway if the Wicked Witch of the West Stand is still in situ.
Agreed, however a lot of people will still buy season tickets regardless. It may cost people a few more quid but wait until the last possible moment (beginning of August) if you wish to purchase one.
The other items mentioned yes, start from the Blackburn game if you haven't done so already. I've seen a comment on another thread about occupying Crossbars before home games but not purchasing anything. Another good idea.
We need to do things that won't inconvenience the fans and won't harm the club (ie get us fined, deducted points or made to look like thugs in the media). Boycotts a good start, and of everything from programmes to food and drink (toilets exempt from this action). If that woman is still there come the summer then nobody should buy new kit. Season ticket renewal is a personal choice but suspect a lot won't renew anyway if the Wicked Witch of the West Stand is still in situ.
Agreed, however a lot of people will still buy season tickets regardless. It may cost people a few more quid but wait until the last possible moment (beginning of August) if you wish to purchase one.
But Standard Sport understands Duchatelet will not consider selling and the protests seem unlikely to change his approach.
Because they read it in the SLP over a week ago maybe? There never was any source for this apparent nugget from Roland.
Besides, it would be a bit of an anti climax if he sold up just as we were getting started. There's only so much the old man is going to tolerate from one of his ungrateful investments.
He may not sell up today. He may not sell up this week. Maybe not even this month. But he will. And when he does we're going to have a massive party.
I do wonder if there is too much dilution and not enough strategy, perhaps its just me, my gut says this is not the valley party campaign. Think a quiet meeting might help. If I'm the only one who thinks that then fair enough, if not drop me an inbox.
I think perhaps a list of potential ideas in one centralised place, and a mechanism for discussing particular ideas could be a way forward. I also don't think anyone should be dissuaded from pursuing their own ideas if they wish.
For information, for those unaware: There's a new page on the Charlton Athletic Supporters' Trust website, entitled 'Co-ordinating Information for Proposed Fan Action' castrust.org/2015/12/450456/
From the web page: "We invite organisers to submit details of their upcoming planned actions, their goals and their contact details for inclusion. Please email these details to secretary@castrust.org "
NB: This web page is for listing ideas / actions, and there isn't a facility to enable discussion on the website.
I agree with LuckyReds in that there's scope for both organised, advertised demonstrations and unadvertised (perhaps one-off) actions. There's no set template for us to follow, so fans should take the initiative. Some may say that the end justifies the means. CAFC may be owned by one man, but neither we, nor he, should forget that the club supporter is the backbone of the club. The owner might employ match-day staff, stadium-based staff and a group of footballers but, without our ongoing financial backing, 'his' Valley will be largely empty. Life-sized, cardboard cut-outs of happy, clappy customers won't look good. And who will sit on the sofa?
My post didn't appear as I wished it to. I was responding to LuckyReds.
Here is is again:
For information, for those unaware: There's a new page on the Charlton Athletic Supporters' Trust website, entitled 'Co-ordinating Information for Proposed Fan Action' castrust.org/2015/12/450456/
From the web page: "We invite organisers to submit details of their upcoming planned actions, their goals and their contact details for inclusion. Please email these details to secretary@castrust.org "
NB: This web page is for listing ideas / actions, and there isn't a facility to enable discussion on the website.
I agree with LuckyReds in that there's scope for both organised, advertised demonstrations and unadvertised (perhaps one-off) actions. There's no set template for us to follow, so fans should take the initiative. Some may say that the end justifies the means. CAFC may be owned by one man, but neither we, nor he, should forget that the club supporter is the backbone of the club. The owner might employ match-day staff, stadium-based staff and a group of footballers but, without our ongoing financial backing, 'his' Valley will be largely empty. Life-sized, cardboard cut-outs of happy, clappy customers won't look good. And who will sit on the sofa?
Ignore it. It's piss poor writing (won't credit it with being journalism) as expected from that rag. Find something on the web, rewrite it (often they don't even do that) and give it a headline relevant to what is trending in that subject area and, bingo, a story in five minutes without even needing to speak to anyone or so any work.
We need to do things that won't inconvenience the fans and won't harm the club (ie get us fined, deducted points or made to look like thugs in the media). Boycotts a good start, and of everything from programmes to food and drink (toilets exempt from this action). If that woman is still there come the summer then nobody should buy new kit. Season ticket renewal is a personal choice but suspect a lot won't renew anyway if the Wicked Witch of the West Stand is still in situ.
Can someone post a picture of Katrien with a green face... the resemblance looks uncanny
We need to do things that won't inconvenience the fans and won't harm the club (ie get us fined, deducted points or made to look like thugs in the media). Boycotts a good start, and of everything from programmes to food and drink (toilets exempt from this action). If that woman is still there come the summer then nobody should buy new kit. Season ticket renewal is a personal choice but suspect a lot won't renew anyway if the Wicked Witch of the West Stand is still in situ.
Can someone post a picture of Katrien with a green face... the resemblance looks uncanny
Here it is, The Meire Witch Project:
Has she just had one of the lower north chicken balti pies?
I'm making a new year resolution to spend nothing in the ground . No programme , no lottery ,no hotdog (cheaper and better outside ) and no drinks .
Good for you. I managed on Saturday, my only weakness a visit to the urinal. Given the state of those on a match day we could plaster them with Meire Out posters and they'd still be there next season.
This is my first post on Charlton Life although I have been reading posts on and off for many years. I have supported Charlton since being a boy and have held a season ticket since 1987, with the exception of a few years while studying. I have watched how things have developed over the last two years and particularly as this season has unfolded with an ever growing concern. I have tried to remain positive and objective and not to be overly swayed in my opinion by knee jerk reactions to specific results.
Until this last week I have not been able to subscribe to the 'Roland Out' campaign as I have had some reservations about its feasibility and ultimate benefit to the club. Principal among those concerns was who if anyone was willing to buy the club and put in the necessary funds to either bankroll losses or better still make the necessary (and risky) investment to take the club to the next level where it has been proven to be able to operate at a profit.
I do believe that when Roland purchased the club he had a plan based on operating within the financial fair play model and benefitting from the network of clubs to achieve this with small squads that could share players through the loan system, to provide a greater depth of cover. However since then FFP seems to have died a death in any real terms and Monsieur Duchatalet has seen fit to sell the only other club in the network that competes at a similar level. So this season we started with a good team, but a weak squad, which was not strengthened in the first transfer window and without a partner club to help us out when an injury crises struck. As a result we now are just one place off the bottom and deep in a relegation fight, without a head coach of any experience or a chief scout with knowledge of the English game. It seems quite clear to me that plan A has failed, but much more worryingly that plan B is inept.
Add to this the fact that we have a CEO that seems to continue to make very ill advised comments that both patronise and disenfranchise fans either through naivety or a complete lack of respect. I am now firmly of the opinion that we as supporters either need to force them out or to make them do a complete u turn and comprehensively address what has being going on. I did attend the protests on Saturday and for the first time got the feeling that the majority of supporters are now behind such drastic change, as seen by the numbers both during and after the game.
Now I do have a suggestion for how we can up the anti in a forceful but legal way. I think we should protest again after the next home game as before, but hopefully with even greater numbers. But also I think we as the fans should issue the owner and CEO with a signed ultimatum stating that they either put the club up for sale or immediately take steps to address the problem (conditions to be agreed with fans) or we will target their operation ruthlessly.
Although as a fan base we only represent 33% of their income (who pointed this out?) another significant chunk comes from sponsors and advertisers, who pay money to the club based on us supporters recognising and purchasing their products. We could make clear to the board that we will contact these companies stating that we as fans will boycott their products and services if they do not withdraw their support for the club when their contracts end. We could also further encourage companies with existing deals to use their adverts already paid for with the club to show their support for our cause. If we could get as many supporters as possible both regular attendees and those more removed to sign (how about target 20k as a number) I think that we could seriously put some pressure on the owner.
We could personally deliver the ultimatum to the main reception at the start of the next protest. Please note this is just a very embryonic idea and I would welcome your thoughts about its validity and implementation. But if people think it could be of benefit to the cause then I would be happy to start the ball rolling with getting it in motion.
So sorry for such a long first post and thanks for taking the time to read it, you must either really love the club or have too much time on your hands ;-)
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I hope a run of good results, signings or soundbites doesn't dampen the weekend's enthusiasm amongst supporters for removing them from owning and running the club. Too much ill feeling and beyond repair for me. Any changes at this stage is merely lip service as the mindset and arrogance of their "strategy" being the right way is too deeply ingrained.
They will not change and need to be removed asap.
I hope that we stay up, but either way these people need to leave our club.
If they do not get the normal season ticket revenue in May/July RD will have to put his hand in his pocket big time to keep the club going and protect his investment.
At some point he will cut his losses and go, but it may not be yet.
The other items mentioned yes, start from the Blackburn game if you haven't done so already. I've seen a comment on another thread about occupying Crossbars before home games but not purchasing anything. Another good idea.
Besides, it would be a bit of an anti climax if he sold up just as we were getting started. There's only so much the old man is going to tolerate from one of his ungrateful investments.
He may not sell up today. He may not sell up this week. Maybe not even this month. But he will. And when he does we're going to have a massive party.
Here is is again:
For information, for those unaware: There's a new page on the Charlton Athletic Supporters' Trust website, entitled 'Co-ordinating Information for Proposed Fan Action' castrust.org/2015/12/450456/
From the web page: "We invite organisers to submit details of their upcoming planned actions, their goals and their contact details for inclusion. Please email these details to secretary@castrust.org "
NB: This web page is for listing ideas / actions, and there isn't a facility to enable discussion on the website.
I agree with LuckyReds in that there's scope for both organised, advertised demonstrations and unadvertised (perhaps one-off) actions. There's no set template for us to follow, so fans should take the initiative. Some may say that the end justifies the means.
CAFC may be owned by one man, but neither we, nor he, should forget that the club supporter is the backbone of the club. The owner might employ match-day staff, stadium-based staff and a group of footballers but, without our ongoing financial backing, 'his' Valley will be largely empty.
Life-sized, cardboard cut-outs of happy, clappy customers won't look good. And who will sit on the sofa?
This is my first post on Charlton Life although I have been reading posts on and off for many years. I have supported Charlton since being a boy and have held a season ticket since 1987, with the exception of a few years while studying. I have watched how things have developed over the last two years and particularly as this season has unfolded with an ever growing concern. I have tried to remain positive and objective and not to be overly swayed in my opinion by knee jerk reactions to specific results.
Until this last week I have not been able to subscribe to the 'Roland Out' campaign as I have had some reservations about its feasibility and ultimate benefit to the club. Principal among those concerns was who if anyone was willing to buy the club and put in the necessary funds to either bankroll losses or better still make the necessary (and risky) investment to take the club to the next level where it has been proven to be able to operate at a profit.
I do believe that when Roland purchased the club he had a plan based on operating within the financial fair play model and benefitting from the network of clubs to achieve this with small squads that could share players through the loan system, to provide a greater depth of cover. However since then FFP seems to have died a death in any real terms and Monsieur Duchatalet has seen fit to sell the only other club in the network that competes at a similar level. So this season we started with a good team, but a weak squad, which was not strengthened in the first transfer window and without a partner club to help us out when an injury crises struck. As a result we now are just one place off the bottom and deep in a relegation fight, without a head coach of any experience or a chief scout with knowledge of the English game. It seems quite clear to me that plan A has failed, but much more worryingly that plan B is inept.
Add to this the fact that we have a CEO that seems to continue to make very ill advised comments that both patronise and disenfranchise fans either through naivety or a complete lack of respect. I am now firmly of the opinion that we as supporters either need to force them out or to make them do a complete u turn and comprehensively address what has being going on. I did attend the protests on Saturday and for the first time got the feeling that the majority of supporters are now behind such drastic change, as seen by the numbers both during and after the game.
Now I do have a suggestion for how we can up the anti in a forceful but legal way. I think we should protest again after the next home game as before, but hopefully with even greater numbers. But also I think we as the fans should issue the owner and CEO with a signed ultimatum stating that they either put the club up for sale or immediately take steps to address the problem (conditions to be agreed with fans) or we will target their operation ruthlessly.
Although as a fan base we only represent 33% of their income (who pointed this out?) another significant chunk comes from sponsors and advertisers, who pay money to the club based on us supporters recognising and purchasing their products. We could make clear to the board that we will contact these companies stating that we as fans will boycott their products and services if they do not withdraw their support for the club when their contracts end. We could also further encourage companies with existing deals to use their adverts already paid for with the club to show their support for our cause. If we could get as many supporters as possible both regular attendees and those more removed to sign (how about target 20k as a number) I think that we could seriously put some pressure on the owner.
We could personally deliver the ultimatum to the main reception at the start of the next protest. Please note this is just a very embryonic idea and I would welcome your thoughts about its validity and implementation. But if people think it could be of benefit to the cause then I would be happy to start the ball rolling with getting it in motion.
So sorry for such a long first post and thanks for taking the time to read it, you must either really love the club or have too much time on your hands ;-)
Great post better goal 8)