As I have said before, paradoxically, when you need a trust the most, it has the least attention from the owners, and when you need the trust the least, the owners will welcome it.
Just disappointed there is no survey to go with this statement....
Why are people still banging on about this dialogue nonsense?
Four ridiculous appointments, and about 25 ridiculous signings, plus our current league position trumps any 'dialogue' FFS.
Judge these clowns by their actions, not their empty words.
We are going to get nowhere with this polite, corporate 'we want communication' approach, sorry!
100% this. They don't care, and they won't.
It is for all legal and economic purposes *their* club, they don't give a shit about some group of people who will go to watch the games anyway, they don't care about a boycott by a few people who might not go to the games, which as Katrien pointed out is only 1/3 of the clubs income. They don't care about what we think, and that is why they can continue to run the club as they want. Like it or not we live in a state of affairs in football now where not even 1 person can want you to be the owner, but you can't stop people owning the club if they buy it...
Alternatives? There really isn't one... The Trust has admirable aims but to be honest with you is about as useful as a PR lesson for our dear Katrien.
Season ticket boycott. Match boycott. Spending at the ground boycott. Demonstrations at the Valley A presence at the gates of Sparrows Lane. Demonstrations at Sparrows Lane during the week (it can be done from loads of surrounding points) Disruption (constant criss crossing of the street or entrances, or use of 'broken down' vehicles) of away team coach arriving at the Valley, or various opponents arriving at Sparrows Lane. Disruption of matches as in the tennis ball, pitch invasion, drone idea. NOTE some of this would be illegal. Bombard the club with e-mails and clog up their phone systems, fax pages of black paper to use up all their ink, send unstamped letters they might have to pay to receive, fill up the voicemails. Bombard Delaware Catering with complaints. Encounter certain significant club people as they travel to and from work and gently but determinedly remind them of what you think, causing them to spend on taxi's or transport with blacked out windows. Use twitter and other stuff to urge new signings NOT to sign and tell them they will not be welcome at Charlton. Contact all football agents and advise them against sending their clients to play for Charlton. Banners and chants and black and white stuff at matches. A mass purchase of tickets behind the dug outs and in front of the directors box and spend the whole time chanting and telling the coaches and the directors what you think. Hiring as much deafening 'sound system' as possible and using it as a mobile facility to disrupt during working hours, or at the Valley environs during games, or at Sparrows Lane during training. Selected fans deliberately finding it difficult to enter the turnstiles using the technology and clog up entry as each person takes ten minutes to sort it out, if the stewards try to help, pretend you only speak Flemish.
Ok a lot of that is childish, and some ill advised, and some against the law, and loads of it is nasty and vindictive. However it is a list that can be added to, and probably about 50% of the ideas could work.
If Roland can't compete with folk on the internet, maybe he will be affected by some direct action...if it is sustained. I would be prepared to do quite a lot of this stuff myself.
Seth, I don't know who you are, but I like you.
Yes some ideas are weird and wonderful and I agree probably about 50% would work. But what I do like is that you feel passionate enough to make a bloody list! My club is having it's heart ripped out and I'm pleased to see someone is willing to fight to try and stop it. We need more like you Seth - count me in.
And before anyone asks - I've not been on the sherry but am going to start now.
Seth, I don't think you can dismiss "the internet" as ineffective against Roland. Actually, the fact the says he dismisses it, means he thinks it's relevant enough to mention. But my point it, the "internet" is just a medium among many. There's no real separation between what happens on the internet and in real life, so to speak, even though it's often talked about as if there is. It's advantage is that it is immediate, pervasive and cheap. It's also global.
If we can organise effectively (and it would be silly not to do so using the internet), we can begin actions online that will bring "real" pressure on Roland, by effecting his business relationships (Delaware North) and reputation.
I think that Roland is motivated by Legacy. We need to shape that legacy in a manner that forces him out.
Roland Duchatalet is not a visionary, and history won't prove him anything but a rich eccentric, punch drunk on his own ego.
Seth, I don't think you can dismiss "the internet" as ineffective against Roland. Actually, the fact the says he dismisses it, means he thinks it's relevant enough to mention. But my point it, the "internet" is just a medium among many. There's no real separation between what happens on the internet and in real life, so to speak, even though it's often talked about as if there is. It's advantage is that it is immediate, pervasive and cheap. It's also global.
If we can organise effectively (and it would be silly not to do so using the internet), we can begin actions online that will bring "real" pressure on Roland, by effecting his business relationships (Delaware North) and reputation.
I think that Roland is motivated by Legacy. We need to shape that legacy in a manner that forces him out.
Roland Duchatalet is not a visionary, and history won't prove him anything but a rich eccentric, punch drunk on his own ego.
Fair enough. You make a good point, in as much as he mentions it he is aware of its significance.
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Just disappointed there is no survey to go with this statement....
Four ridiculous appointments, and about 25 ridiculous signings, plus our current league position trumps any 'dialogue' FFS.
Judge these clowns by their actions, not their empty words.
We are going to get nowhere with this polite, corporate 'we want communication' approach, sorry!
It is for all legal and economic purposes *their* club, they don't give a shit about some group of people who will go to watch the games anyway, they don't care about a boycott by a few people who might not go to the games, which as Katrien pointed out is only 1/3 of the clubs income. They don't care about what we think, and that is why they can continue to run the club as they want. Like it or not we live in a state of affairs in football now where not even 1 person can want you to be the owner, but you can't stop people owning the club if they buy it...
Alternatives? There really isn't one... The Trust has admirable aims but to be honest with you is about as useful as a PR lesson for our dear Katrien.
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Seth, what about stink bombs in the West Stand ?
I've heard Katrien like eggs & they were always good value at school.
Yes some ideas are weird and wonderful and I agree probably about 50% would work. But what I do like is that you feel passionate enough to make a bloody list! My club is having it's heart ripped out and I'm pleased to see someone is willing to fight to try and stop it. We need more like you Seth - count me in.
And before anyone asks - I've not been on the sherry but am going to start now.
If we can organise effectively (and it would be silly not to do so using the internet), we can begin actions online that will bring "real" pressure on Roland, by effecting his business relationships (Delaware North) and reputation.
I think that Roland is motivated by Legacy. We need to shape that legacy in a manner that forces him out.
Roland Duchatalet is not a visionary, and history won't prove him anything but a rich eccentric, punch drunk on his own ego.