Like many many fans I disagree with the way Katrien is doing her job just as much as every other fan. What is wrong is some of the abuse I have seen directed towards her like s**t, w***e and s**g. That is when it's going beyond the boundries. It's just as bad as racism. There is no excuse for it no matter how mad you are with her. Nobody is saying like her or agree with she is doing. There is being critical of someone (which is fine) and there is being downright insulting. These are two separate things altogther. She may well not be telling the truth but it is still absolutely no excuse whatsoever. No matter bad at how she is at her job she doesn't deserve to have those sexit terms labelled at her in any shape or form.
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No you're right though.
Yes I was wrong for saying stuff on here its a fans forum after all, however she has a helping hand in killing my club, so I make no apologies. If she's a bloke we can call him what we like but cos she's a woman we have to be careful what we say. Not a chance. Ok I wont post the words on here any more but doesn't stop me thinking them or saying them to other people. Same goes for RD I will still call him every word under the sun but that's ok his a man.
Work life is separate from personal life so insults as you describe cross the divide, and could be prosecutable too.
I wouldn't personally do it but if you poke a stick in a hornets nest...
Not sticking up for the words used by the way, but I can see why people use them, it's part parcel of the game. To try and provoke Katrien into action she may regret or wouldn't do without, it's not practical or nice in any which way but you just can't eridicate it, even the people working in refreshments at football probably receive words like it directed at them. Sticks and stones may break my.... etc. etc.
If she can't hack it she's in the wrong business, men receive abuse as do women. Katrien is no different to anyone else receiving similar abuse in football, she's in a position that will attract it unfortunately for her (and her actions certainly aren't helping, laughing at fans and taking photos etc.)
Marks out of 10 for abuse?
If it was a bloke, whether qualified or not and obviously telling the same fibs and doing the same shit job as katrien absolutely no one would be on his side. That CEO would easily be hated by EVERYONE.
She is surrounded by blokes that will defend her to the bone and some fans will defend her after perhaps meeting her in person and feeling charmed by her looks and behaviour. It carries a big shield round her.
I myself don't find her massively attractive in this sense, I mean she looks great sometimes but mostly doesn't do it for me.
She has won friends at charlton because she is an apparent vulnerable but ballsy woman in football and could be seen as unique in this sense.
She's shit at her job whether she cares about how well charlton are doing or not.
I think thinking realistically, she will probably be at charlton for a worryingly long time.
All been said before many times.
She is a paid laky, she does not really drive things she is just the gatekeeper to stop people speaking/getting to RD and she does this successfully.
I don't like her, I don't trust her, I hope she leaves... But if she does, nothing will change because the next 'baby' CEO will come in and on we will continue down the same route.
Criticise them for your view of their performance and capability by all means, but why anyone thinks going after them on a personal level is ok I'll never understand.
You wanker
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Maybe it's just me but some of the stuff I hear in the terraces and have read on here make me cringe so much. Now, I realise this is not what a large percentage of fans are like, but it often feels like it's the most vocal ones.
This is the same for what I read and hear about what is directed at KM. I hate what KM and RD are doing to the club, and sadly that feeling of walking down Floyd Road after a Charlton win is slowly being eroded by their actions and blatant mismanagement.
However I find it outrageous some of the verbal abuse that I've heard. I wish these people could take a step back, and use there (very justifiable) anger and try and channel it into something more positive - whether anything we do will help is debatable, but referring to someone as a slut/whore or whatever is certainly not going to.
I'm old school, and although I wouldn't say those things, after the way that our club is being run, I couldn't give a fuck if she got upset that a few knuckle draggers are calling her names.
I apologise deeply of course if the above 'charlton fan' generalisation has upset anyone. God forbid someone gets their feelings hurt.