I wrote this thread less than two weeks ago. So much has changes in that space of time that I now have made a complete U turn. Whilst this system may have worked had it have been implemented at the beginning of the season or before I believe now is too late.
There is only one way to save our season. Bring in a manager yes manager who will unite the club at all levels. This is the most important part. Unity.
Someone who can get the fans back on side, and back in the ground. Supporting the 11 out there no matter what the result. And supporting the manager no matter what. Likewise that manager needs to get the players playing in the Charlton way. With immense character and commitment giving everything for the cause! Organised and hard to beat. We need to make the valley a tough place for any team to travel to.
The coaching staff at all levels need to be onside and the physios andeven the non footballing staff. Every level of the club has to be United in the cause of avoiding the drop. That is the only way this club will be playing in the championship next year.
And in my eyes there's only one man who can do this. Curbs.
In normal circumstances I would say never go back.. but this isn't normal circumstances.. and in this case it's less about managerial credentials and more about a man that will be backed by the fans, will inspire the players and unite the club.
Jose Riga. He has a high coaching pedigree. Mourinho used him whilst at Porto and Inter (and others have also used him) to come in and run specialist coaching sessions and get his philosophy across.
I don't mean to pick holes for the sake of it and it's probably a moot point nonetheless, but I think this gets wildly overstated. I read through his website and, even allowing for the poor English translation, it's filled with all kinds of meaningless mumbo jumbo masquerading as sports science. If he'd been given the time, I'm sure Riga would have proved every bit the flop that the rest of the Belgian no-mark brigade has.
In my opinion, he got out rather fortuitously before he was found out.
That's a very interesting viewpoint, and I tend to think you might have called it right. A lot of things around Riga are odd. I got to like him for his dignified demeanour and his apparently nerveless way of getting us out of trouble by picking his games to win. But the stuff at Standard is very odd. The fans don't know why he was brought back, when the Serbian guy was doing a good job.
Completely agree with the idea that we need good football people in higher positions than first team coach.
Currently:
- Contract talks - Transfers - Scouting network - Academy coaches - Medical team - First team coach
...all the sole responsibility of one person - Katrien Miere. A young CEO with not more than a couple of years experience in any job, and about as much football knowledge as my nan.
At some clubs (e.g. Arsenal), the manager is involved in all of the above, overseeing every tiny detail. At others (e.g. Swansea, Southampton), the manager looks after the first team, and there are clearly defined roles higher up the ladder to take care of everything else.
Our owner prefers a head coach that 'just' coaches the first team, and isnt the sort to hand over the keys to the place - no problem. BUT IT IS COMPLETELY IDIOTIC to leave everything else to just pootle along without any meaningful intervention or direction.
Jose Riga. He has a high coaching pedigree. Mourinho used him whilst at Porto and Inter (and others have also used him) to come in and run specialist coaching sessions and get his philosophy across.
I don't mean to pick holes for the sake of it and it's probably a moot point nonetheless, but I think this gets wildly overstated. I read through his website and, even allowing for the poor English translation, it's filled with all kinds of meaningless mumbo jumbo masquerading as sports science. If he'd been given the time, I'm sure Riga would have proved every bit the flop that the rest of the Belgian no-mark brigade has.
In my opinion, he got out rather fortuitously before he was found out.
That's a very interesting viewpoint, and I tend to think you might have called it right. A lot of things around Riga are odd. I got to like him for his dignified demeanour and his apparently nerveless way of getting us out of trouble by picking his games to win. But the stuff at Standard is very odd. The fans don't know why he was brought back, when the Serbian guy was doing a good job.
There's lots of good things to say about Riga. The thing that's always bothered me about positioning him as some kind of messiah though is that he took over at a time when we had an incredible run of fixtures against teams that didn't have so much to play for. Indeed the few games he had against competing clubs like Burnley we got roundly dismissed 3-0. He also got the benefit of a drier pitch! Better a lucky manager, of course, and there's no denying his results - but I've always wondered if he was quite as good as we think, or perhaps more to the point if we wouldn't have gone on a similar run as the previous year without the managerial change.
Personally I think a DoF is wishful thinking even if it was the right thing for us. Ipswich seem to be doing ok with a small budget and McCarthy overseeing everything. We should have been begging Lambert to join us when he was free (look at Blackburn since he went there).
Anyway, my money is on being stuck with Fraeye until the end of the season, or until RD panics again. Both Riga and Fraeye were interim managers, lest we forget.
Jose Riga. He has a high coaching pedigree. Mourinho used him whilst at Porto and Inter (and others have also used him) to come in and run specialist coaching sessions and get his philosophy across.
I don't mean to pick holes for the sake of it and it's probably a moot point nonetheless, but I think this gets wildly overstated. I read through his website and, even allowing for the poor English translation, it's filled with all kinds of meaningless mumbo jumbo masquerading as sports science. If he'd been given the time, I'm sure Riga would have proved every bit the flop that the rest of the Belgian no-mark brigade has.
In my opinion, he got out rather fortuitously before he was found out.
That's a very interesting viewpoint, and I tend to think you might have called it right. A lot of things around Riga are odd. I got to like him for his dignified demeanour and his apparently nerveless way of getting us out of trouble by picking his games to win. But the stuff at Standard is very odd. The fans don't know why he was brought back, when the Serbian guy was doing a good job.
Anyway, my money is on being stuck with Fraeye until the end of the season, or until RD panics again. Both Riga and Fraeye were interim managers, lest we forget.
Why would RD panic ?
Everything is going according to plan for him.
The weaker the first team, the more academy players he can throw in.
Lookman gets thrown in from nowhere and is our MOM for 4 games.
Premiership clubs come calling.
Kerching, another sale.
RD like KM are laughing loudly and we're too spineless to front them (bar the 2%).
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There is only one way to save our season. Bring in a manager yes manager who will unite the club at all levels. This is the most important part. Unity.
Someone who can get the fans back on side, and back in the ground. Supporting the 11 out there no matter what the result. And supporting the manager no matter what. Likewise that manager needs to get the players playing in the Charlton way. With immense character and commitment giving everything for the cause! Organised and hard to beat. We need to make the valley a tough place for any team to travel to.
The coaching staff at all levels need to be onside and the physios andeven the non footballing staff. Every level of the club has to be United in the cause of avoiding the drop. That is the only way this club will be playing in the championship next year.
And in my eyes there's only one man who can do this. Curbs.
In normal circumstances I would say never go back.. but this isn't normal circumstances.. and in this case it's less about managerial credentials and more about a man that will be backed by the fans, will inspire the players and unite the club.
Currently:
- Contract talks
- Transfers
- Scouting network
- Academy coaches
- Medical team
- First team coach
...all the sole responsibility of one person - Katrien Miere. A young CEO with not more than a couple of years experience in any job, and about as much football knowledge as my nan.
At some clubs (e.g. Arsenal), the manager is involved in all of the above, overseeing every tiny detail. At others (e.g. Swansea, Southampton), the manager looks after the first team, and there are clearly defined roles higher up the ladder to take care of everything else.
Our owner prefers a head coach that 'just' coaches the first team, and isnt the sort to hand over the keys to the place - no problem.
BUT IT IS COMPLETELY IDIOTIC to leave everything else to just pootle along without any meaningful intervention or direction.
Personally I think a DoF is wishful thinking even if it was the right thing for us. Ipswich seem to be doing ok with a small budget and McCarthy overseeing everything. We should have been begging Lambert to join us when he was free (look at Blackburn since he went there).
Anyway, my money is on being stuck with Fraeye until the end of the season, or until RD panics again. Both Riga and Fraeye were interim managers, lest we forget.
Everything is going according to plan for him.
The weaker the first team, the more academy players he can throw in.
Lookman gets thrown in from nowhere and is our MOM for 4 games.
Premiership clubs come calling.
Kerching, another sale.
RD like KM are laughing loudly and we're too spineless to front them (bar the 2%).