I'll be there tomorrow - I'll be there every home game.
Ive no problem with Charlton being 'bad', we've seen it before many times. But there is a big difference between Charlton playing bad and Charlton being run WRONG.
We could finish bottom of the league and I'll still love the club. But I cannot turn a blind eye to the identity of the club being hijacked and being mistreated. That is a very different situation from 'having a bad time'
I'm no fan of this present regime, but I don't get what this means. It's just another platitude in a seemingly endless litany of such that is posted on here every day. What exactly do you mean by this club's 'identity'? A club that was ousted from its home, a club that has yo-yoed between the second and third tiers for most of its history? A club that has always sold its best players for less than their worth? A small club with limited ambitions?
The present mob are not 'destroying' our club - that's impossible - they're simply doing things we don't like.Protest, wear a black & white scarf or boycott if it makes you feel better, but I guarantee we'll still be here in ten years time - whoever's running the show - and doing what comes naturally: supporting the team that will always be Charlton.
I don't care about us selling our best players, has always happened.
I don't care about us being between the second and third tier - I didn't sign up to Charlton to see a team win the Premier League.
Our identity has always been that of a club where the fans are exceptionally proud of its long term traditions, links to local community and 'try hard' work ethic. Not a club that pushes gimmicks and insults fans intelligence by constantly lying.
I've made so many excuses for the club in recent years when we were relegated from the Chanpionship and pissing about in League One, because it's a club I love.
The way I feel about them now is more than a platitude, thank you very much.
I'll be there tomorrow - I'll be there every home game.
Ive no problem with Charlton being 'bad', we've seen it before many times. But there is a big difference between Charlton playing bad and Charlton being run WRONG.
We could finish bottom of the league and I'll still love the club. But I cannot turn a blind eye to the identity of the club being hijacked and being mistreated. That is a very different situation from 'having a bad time'
I'm no fan of this present regime, but I don't get what this means. It's just another platitude in a seemingly endless litany of such that is posted on here every day. What exactly do you mean by this club's 'identity'? A club that was ousted from its home, a club that has yo-yoed between the second and third tiers for most of its history? A club that has always sold its best players for less than their worth? A small club with limited ambitions?
The present mob are not 'destroying' our club - that's impossible - they're simply doing things we don't like.Protest, wear a black & white scarf or boycott if it makes you feel better, but I guarantee we'll still be here in ten years time - whoever's running the show - and doing what comes naturally: supporting the team that will always be Charlton.
I guess it changes person to person, but for me it is longevity and affinity. With the constant turnover of managers, players and staff it is very hard to care about them because I get the feeling they will be out the door very soon, either for being crap (Bergdich, Lepoint) or too good and sold on (Gomez). Gudmundsson hasn't been here 18months and he feels like a stalwart, kind of sad really.
This para taken from a Times article on Bolton, quoting club legend Kevin Davies should have some resonance with us.
But Davies is not a lone voice in arguing that jobs are not the only thing to have been shed since the club’s 11-year stint in the Premier League ended in 2012. Davies believes the club have been “in a downward spiral” since Allardyce resigned in April 2007 and claimed a thick rot set in during Dougie Freedman’s two-year tenure to October last year. “The whole fabric of the club has changed,” he said. “Big Sam created this incredible family environment where everyone, from the first-team players and their wives down to the cooks and the cleaners, felt part of the club. We were all in it together but over time factions developed, the culture changed, a lot of popular and familiar faces left. The club became sterile, a colder place to be, and the fans don’t feel part of it in the same way they used to.”
I appreciate some fans may not get this. Others may say – we'll carry on supporting the club because you can’t do anything about it. Bolton will have the loyal die-hard fans going to their games. But not enough of them. Just accepting it is what it is isn’t the answer.
The fans who sing 'we want our Charlton back' get it. It is in the owner's interest to try to find 'our Charlton' too. And when he shows signs of understanding, I will back him all the way and forget the past. But at the moment, he doesn't and we have to make him understand. If we fail, we fail, but we have to try.
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Great post, Mutts ( again !) & well done for quoting Davies - the parallels are there for all to see ( if they bother to look )
Maybe I am a "mug" but I will always support Charlton whatever happens! Its everyones right to protest, I am not saying you should or shouldn't, all I am saying is that I don't believe it achieves anything!! If you feel so strongly to whats going on-stay away from the club and the board will soon get the message if the terraces are empty. If you shout and scream then enter the ground that achieves nothing in my opinion! You pay your money you take your choices! I will attend every game like I always have "mug" or not!
Do you really not see any problem, curbs, with the way our club is being run? Are you not bothered by Ms Meire telling us that the 4 managerial changes have all been correct and successful?
I'll be there tomorrow - I'll be there every home game.
Ive no problem with Charlton being 'bad', we've seen it before many times. But there is a big difference between Charlton playing bad and Charlton being run WRONG.
We could finish bottom of the league and I'll still love the club. But I cannot turn a blind eye to the identity of the club being hijacked and being mistreated. That is a very different situation from 'having a bad time'
I'm no fan of this present regime, but I don't get what this means. It's just another platitude in a seemingly endless litany of such that is posted on here every day. What exactly do you mean by this club's 'identity'? A club that was ousted from its home, a club that has yo-yoed between the second and third tiers for most of its history? A club that has always sold its best players for less than their worth? A small club with limited ambitions?
The present mob are not 'destroying' our club - that's impossible - they're simply doing things we don't like.Protest, wear a black & white scarf or boycott if it makes you feel better, but I guarantee we'll still be here in ten years time - whoever's running the show - and doing what comes naturally: supporting the team that will always be Charlton.
I don't care about us selling our best players, has always happened.
I don't care about us being between the second and third tier - I didn't sign up to Charlton to see a team win the Premier League.
Our identity has always been that of a club where the fans are exceptionally proud of its long term traditions, links to local community and 'try hard' work ethic. Not a club that pushes gimmicks and insults fans intelligence by constantly lying.
I've made so many excuses for the club in recent years when we were relegated from the Chanpionship and pissing about in League One, because it's a club I love.
The way I feel about them now is more than a platitude, thank you very much.
Maybe I am a "mug" but I will always support Charlton whatever happens! Its everyones right to protest, I am not saying you should or shouldn't, all I am saying is that I don't believe it achieves anything!! If you feel so strongly to whats going on-stay away from the club and the board will soon get the message if the terraces are empty. If you shout and scream then enter the ground that achieves nothing in my opinion! You pay your money you take your choices! I will attend every game like I always have "mug" or not!
what about back to the valley and the valley party, are you saying that didn't do anything.
it's fans like you who are prepared to watch and put money into a chairmans pocket, who doesn't give a toss about the club!
Being a season ticket holder for many years, its time to get behind the lads and for one week forget all the negative stuff going about the valley. Only we can help the players off the pitch and forget all the protests. It never achieves anything. Only way to proper make a difference is to vote with your feet. I will be there week in come what may. Charlton for life!
Being a season ticket holder for many years, its time to get behind the lads and for one week forget all the negative stuff going about the valley. Only we can help the players off the pitch and forget all the protests. It never achieves anything. Only way to proper make a difference is to vote with your feet. I will be there week in come what may. Charlton for life!
It's time for the owner and CEO to get behind the boys and stop all this negative stuff about managers, selling our best players and insulting the fans - it never achieves anything!
They need to vote with their feet and take a nice long walk.
i come from Coventry originally and they were my boyhood team. I don't remember a time where we didn't have serious issues with the management and ownership. More recently since I moved to westcombe park and have been bringing the boy to Charlton, I have never known a time where we didn't have issues...
it's not so bad with Charlton that we have been relocated out of the Valley to an out of town stadium and then kicked out of that for a year to Northampton. Any owner who commits to keep us at the Valley has my (qualified) support.
But it is a football club not just a business and the fans need involvement and a good game to watch. I think the current management is realising this after a slow start, I can't agree with all their decisions and I'd like them to do more but they aren't as bad as Sisu or anywhere close.
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He wasn't talking about us though!..................great words though!
I don't care about us being between the second and third tier - I didn't sign up to Charlton to see a team win the Premier League.
Our identity has always been that of a club where the fans are exceptionally proud of its long term traditions, links to local community and 'try hard' work ethic. Not a club that pushes gimmicks and insults fans intelligence by constantly lying.
I've made so many excuses for the club in recent years when we were relegated from the Chanpionship and pissing about in League One, because it's a club I love.
The way I feel about them now is more than a platitude, thank you very much.
Great post, Mutts ( again !) & well done for quoting Davies - the parallels are there for all to see ( if they bother to look )
it's fans like you who are prepared to watch and put money into a chairmans pocket, who doesn't give a toss about the club!
They need to vote with their feet and take a nice long walk.
it's not so bad with Charlton that we have been relocated out of the Valley to an out of town stadium and then kicked out of that for a year to Northampton. Any owner who commits to keep us at the Valley has my (qualified) support.
But it is a football club not just a business and the fans need involvement and a good game to watch. I think the current management is realising this after a slow start, I can't agree with all their decisions and I'd like them to do more but they aren't as bad as Sisu or anywhere close.