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England v Spain
PL54
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On ITV
The pundits spoke over the beginning of the English National Anthem until they realised and then cut off.
Hopefully a decent game to follow
The pundits spoke over the beginning of the English National Anthem until they realised and then cut off.
Hopefully a decent game to follow
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Erm...PL54 said:On ITV
The pundits spoke over the beginning of the English National Anthem until they realised and then cut off.
Hopefully a decent game to follow0 -
well that's the suns front page sorted then.PL54 said:On ITV
The pundits spoke over the beginning of the English National Anthem until they realised and then cut off.
Hopefully a decent game to follow3 -
Danny Mills co commentating on BBC.
I thought I was negative and glum about England's prospects and recent history. Old curly is at another level!!0 -
Spain's right back score a complete wonder goal, the sort you normally score on your playstation!2
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good goal but Sterling gifted them by loosing it in midfield2
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He's been hopeless.lancashire lad said:good goal but Sterling gifted them by loosing it in midfield
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England are a top six second division team in International terms.0
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England France game will be cancelled next week - if the talk of explosions at Stade de France is confirmed. IMO0
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Chris Smalling looks very good at the moment though - really thought he'd gone backwards up until a year or so ago, but he's come on leaps and bounds recently.2
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Don't you mean mike smalling?3
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Some of the comments on BBCSport were ridiculous. People calling for Roy's head after one away game against reigning the European Champions. I wouldn't say we are or will become world beaters under him, but this was a friendly against tough opposition with a number of first 11 players unavailable.
Also worth pointing out Spain hardly created anything clear cut, beaten by a wondergoal from a RB who as the most advanced player(caused by a mistake from Sterling) and a rare mistake from Joe Hart, other than that I can't think of any clear opportunities they had. On the other hand, we didn't create much and when we did get to their 18yard box, we looked more spongefoot than Church himself.1 -
why is it we can't keep and pass the ball around like the top sides? or is it simply we're shite?0
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Often think the same myself. We haven't got players that are as technically gifted. There aren't too many (if any) of the current England pool of players that would get in the Spanish, German, Italian or French squads)sillav nitram said:why is it we can't keep and pass the ball around like the top sides? or is it simply we're shite?
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England best player last night. I've always been anti Smalling, but over the last year, as you say, and particularly this season he has been a different player. Probably made himself England's first choice centre back.North Lower Neil said:Chris Smalling looks very good at the moment though - really thought he'd gone backwards up until a year or so ago, but he's come on leaps and bounds recently.
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Yup. Coaching from an early age that focuses on culture of strength and tackling and being able to run around a lot.sillav nitram said:why is it we can't keep and pass the ball around like the top sides? or is it simply we're shite?
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Pissed me off listening to him on R5L last night, so negative.carly burn said:Danny Mills co commentating on BBC.
I thought I was negative and glum about England's prospects and recent history. Old curly is at another level!!0 -
Working at a school in Spain I can see why their players are far more technically gifted: the focus in training and matches is always on possession on the ball and movement off the ball. Even under pressure in defence, there is never the 'get rid' mentality. Consequently, players at all levels are far more confident on the ball and are more aware of teammates' movements. The games do lack the more frenetic breakneck pace of the English style though. If we could only somehow combine both!3
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A lot of it is mental attitude.
We had the ball at one point in defence (at nil nil), Hoddle on ITV was saying just keep it, and I was thinking the same, keep the ball, bore the crowd, frustrate the Spanish players. Then Jones (I think) hoofs it up front where we lose it, completely unnecessary.2 -
As others have alluded to on this thread - and has been remarked on before - England will never win anything whilst training and coaching of seven year old kids is left to well-intentioned dads with less tactical nous than Harry Redknapp and parents are allowed to roam the touchline screaming "don't let 'im do that to ya Kai - 'ave 'im!"
Despite all the lip service paid to changing the way the game is taught in this country, nothing has really changed. The faster, bigger kids always get favoured over more skilful ones, because they'll always be more successful - until they reach senior football, where they couldn't trap a bag of cement if you dropped it on them, and end up being Phil Jones.7 - Sponsored links:
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I think we're the best of the B level teams. The A list are those we (almost) never beat in competitive matches: Germany, Argentina, Italy etcHarry Gregory said:England are a top six second division team in International terms.
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Having just watched David Beckham's All Star charity Match , it makes you realise that if we didn't win anything with those players, this current crock ain't coming close1
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Yes, seeing Becks and Scholes makes you realise how many current England attacking midfielders are all pace and power, but lack the class that the best players haveStewieGriffinSE7 said:Having just watched David Beckham's All Star charity Match , it makes you realise that if we didn't win anything with those players, this current crock ain't coming close
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Personally I think I only real chance of beating the top sides is to stop playing them at their own game and hit them with a more English style. It's all well and good knocking it around at the back trying to pass your way out against inferior opposition but the top sides press and close down too quickly. When Hart has it, get numbers forward and hit it long moving the play into the oppositions half. I don't think we are that far off the top nations in an attacking sense but we seem to put ourselves under pressure at the back by trying to emulate the "continental " style of play0
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So true, especially as quite a few other nations are very strong at the moment, Germany in particular.StewieGriffinSE7 said:Having just watched David Beckham's All Star charity Match , it makes you realise that if we didn't win anything with those players, this current crock ain't coming close
Our best chances were 96 (most of the big teams poor, home advantage) and 2004 (Greece FFS. and the Czech were the best team so no one stood out).
But for Gazza sliding an inch further or Rooney's foot injury, maybe....
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This is the Germany who struggled over Scotland and lost to both Poland and Republic of Ireland?North Lower Neil said:
So true, especially as quite a few other nations are very strong at the moment, Germany in particular.StewieGriffinSE7 said:Having just watched David Beckham's All Star charity Match , it makes you realise that if we didn't win anything with those players, this current crock ain't coming close
Our best chances were 96 (most of the big teams poor, home advantage) and 2004 (Greece FFS. and the Czech were the best team so no one stood out).
But for Gazza sliding an inch further or Rooney's foot injury, maybe....
I think they're a long way off how good they were at the World Cup.
If England had been on the other side of the draw in 2002, it would have been an England-Brazil final, imo.1 -
Or Sol Campbell's perfectly good goal being allowed to stand in the case of the latter, Neil.North Lower Neil said:
So true, especially as quite a few other nations are very strong at the moment, Germany in particular.StewieGriffinSE7 said:Having just watched David Beckham's All Star charity Match , it makes you realise that if we didn't win anything with those players, this current crock ain't coming close
Our best chances were 96 (most of the big teams poor, home advantage) and 2004 (Greece FFS. and the Czech were the best team so no one stood out).
But for Gazza sliding an inch further or Rooney's foot injury, maybe....2 -
If Gary Neville and Steven Gerrard were fit we would have won that world cup.IA said:
This is the Germany who struggled over Scotland and lost to both Poland and Republic of Ireland?North Lower Neil said:
So true, especially as quite a few other nations are very strong at the moment, Germany in particular.StewieGriffinSE7 said:Having just watched David Beckham's All Star charity Match , it makes you realise that if we didn't win anything with those players, this current crock ain't coming close
Our best chances were 96 (most of the big teams poor, home advantage) and 2004 (Greece FFS. and the Czech were the best team so no one stood out).
But for Gazza sliding an inch further or Rooney's foot injury, maybe....
I think they're a long way off how good they were at the World Cup.
If England had been on the other side of the draw in 2002, it would have been an England-Brazil final, imo.0 -
If we could take penalties we would definitely have won a tournament. 1990 and 1996 were well within our grasp.2
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Very true - very much a chance missed that year, sadly.Algarveaddick said:
Or Sol Campbell's perfectly good goal being allowed to stand in the case of the latter, Neil.North Lower Neil said:
So true, especially as quite a few other nations are very strong at the moment, Germany in particular.StewieGriffinSE7 said:Having just watched David Beckham's All Star charity Match , it makes you realise that if we didn't win anything with those players, this current crock ain't coming close
Our best chances were 96 (most of the big teams poor, home advantage) and 2004 (Greece FFS. and the Czech were the best team so no one stood out).
But for Gazza sliding an inch further or Rooney's foot injury, maybe....0
