Have to say thanks to a poster on the Massives forum who has gone through everyones incomings and looked at the value of players coming in (using transfermarkt across all clubs). Regardless of how accurate we think it is, it gives a good idea of the kind of players and relative investment when comparing all the clubs together. Just goes to show the investment some clubs (including us) have made - did the bookies even pay attention to this when looking at their odds?
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It is interesting though, although the most interesting thing is that it is Sheff Wed fans that have done it, presumably, because it looks like they have spent quite a lot.
Who have Sheffield Wednesday signed? I see they've signed a few players from Portugal and re-signed some others. Is there a big name signing among that £12m figure?
£5.5m is closer for us I'm lead to believe.
It's NOT the amount of money spent by each club. I don't think Transfermarkt even pretends that it is. It is an attempt at judging the value of the players brought in. And in this respect, it's probably more accurate than 'some bloke on the internet' but less accurate than looking at the past after the season is finished
It IS just some blokes on the internet. That is the point.
Here's Joe Gomez's profile;
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/joe-gomez/profil/spieler/256178#ath
In what world is his "current market value" £1.75m ?
People can believe Transfermarkt is in some way reflective of a players value if they like - and with the rise of "undisclosed fees" I can see why that would plug a gap - but please don't kid yourself that it's in anyway reflective of a players actual market value - we can see that it really isn't.
I don't put any particular stock in transfermarkt or care what their ratings are. I was asking why there was so much hostility to it. I had thought someone could point to an implicit bias or flaw in how they rate players, or that there were documented reasons for considering it completely pointless, on a par with Dave from Chelmsford posting on the Daily Mail website.
I get it now. The website was overused by one poster on here in past seasons as a font of knowledge. It became an easy way of ridiculing that poster's opinion and that's been carried on.
I thought there would be more to it.
It's not that there's "so much hostility" towards Transfermarkt- the genesis of this thread is someone trying to use the combined "market value" figures given by that site to represent how much each team has invested this summer, and then put it in a little table - I think I, and a couple of others, are saying that the values are completely meaningless (as the Gomez profile proves) therefore the figures shown are nonsense.
"Why are people so hostile to Transfermarkt??
It's NOT the amount of money spent by each club. I don't think Transfermarkt even pretends that it is. It is an attempt at judging the value of the players brought in. And in this respect, it's probably more accurate than 'some bloke on the internet' but less accurate than looking at the past after the season is finished"
I and other question the validity of the judgements it makes on the "value of players".
You stated " it's probably more accurate than 'some bloke on the internet' " but it clearly is not as it is just some bloke/s on the internet guessing or using media numbers.
The use of Transfermarket, or in some cases a total reliance on it, just undermines any arguement as it has no validity. SE9Addick has given one very simple example of that with Gomez.
When the bloke/s on the internet get round to it they will bump up his value to £3.5m or a bit more as that was the price commonly mentioned in the media. That's how poor and unworthy of being given any credence it is.
Just saying that these values of players ( not fees) ARE JUST MADE UP BY SOME BLOKES ON THE INTERNET whilst you say you trust these values ( not fees) more than values (not fees) made up by some bloke on the Internet.
Like me saying I would rather trust a post from Len Glover than Leroy Ambrose as Leroy is just some bloke on the Internet.