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Women in FIFA 16

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  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,372
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  • jams
    jams Posts: 1,219
    Is it a good addition? All for equality but struggling to see the point - existing players won't play more than a handful of games as a novelty and I can't imagine this addition will increase sales much
  • JoshrewCAFC
    JoshrewCAFC Posts: 916
    jams said:

    Is it a good addition? All for equality but struggling to see the point - existing players won't play more than a handful of games as a novelty and I can't imagine this addition will increase sales much

    I'm not sure the point is to sell more, it's to promote women's football to those who would never be interested otherwise, and possibly it may captive a female audience (although admitedly a small increase)
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,171
    52% of gamers are female and women's soccer is big and getting bigger in the US so it's catering to an audience that it hasn't engaged with before. If Sepp gets his way imagine how tight the shorts will be though
  • Yanntheman
    Yanntheman Posts: 421
    Also, why not? Not many people use league 2 teams or some of the other teams on there
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,783

    52% of gamers are female and women's soccer is big and getting bigger in the US so it's catering to an audience that it hasn't engaged with before. If Sepp gets his way imagine how tight the shorts will be though

    52%?
    Is that figure correct Garry? If so, I'm very surprised by that.
    I'm not saying you're wrong, but it instinctively feels like there would be more male gamers than female.
    I know it's only one person's experience, but I honestly don't think I can think of more than one or two female friends who are gamers. (To my knowledge). I know plenty of male gamers though.
  • OsamaBenHamer
    OsamaBenHamer Posts: 647
    I imagine Sunday league teams will be included in fifa 17 then?
  • SheedyCAFC
    SheedyCAFC Posts: 1,245

    52% of gamers are female and women's soccer is big and getting bigger in the US so it's catering to an audience that it hasn't engaged with before. If Sepp gets his way imagine how tight the shorts will be though

    52%?
    Is that figure correct Garry? If so, I'm very surprised by that.
    I'm not saying you're wrong, but it instinctively feels like there would be more male gamers than female.
    I know it's only one person's experience, but I honestly don't think I can think of more than one or two female friends who are gamers. (To my knowledge). I know plenty of male gamers though.
    5.2% *
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,212
    That is a surprising stat, I literally don't know one female that's ever played FIFA that's for sure.
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  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,372
    They also have the Saudi Arabian and Korean leagues on there, which I'm sure very rarely get used. But again, its done to target markets that bring in sales.
  • IA
    IA Posts: 6,103

    52% of gamers are female and women's soccer is big and getting bigger in the US so it's catering to an audience that it hasn't engaged with before. If Sepp gets his way imagine how tight the shorts will be though

    52%?
    Is that figure correct Garry? If so, I'm very surprised by that.
    I'm not saying you're wrong, but it instinctively feels like there would be more male gamers than female.
    I know it's only one person's experience, but I honestly don't think I can think of more than one or two female friends who are gamers. (To my knowledge). I know plenty of male gamers though.
    The Guardian says 52% of gamers are female.

    Washington Post says 48% are women

    Not a gamer myself but would have thought most gamers are in Asia. Read an interesting article on gaming and race during the week (among other things, white males assume gamers they meet online are white males too), similar would apply re gender

    Can the female teams play against male teams in the game?
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,981
    it's all pixels on a TV screen, it doesn't really matter does it?
  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131
    Will you see any boobage?
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,929
    Difficult in terms or assigning ratings.. its all relative but with women it it relative to other women so a top player would get a rating of 80 or is it relative to the men where she may be a 50 or less....
    will be interesting to see how they do it!
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    edited May 2015
    Apparently it's really hard to play the women's mode. The feminists refuse to be controlled by men.
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,783
    IA said:

    52% of gamers are female and women's soccer is big and getting bigger in the US so it's catering to an audience that it hasn't engaged with before. If Sepp gets his way imagine how tight the shorts will be though

    52%?
    Is that figure correct Garry? If so, I'm very surprised by that.
    I'm not saying you're wrong, but it instinctively feels like there would be more male gamers than female.
    I know it's only one person's experience, but I honestly don't think I can think of more than one or two female friends who are gamers. (To my knowledge). I know plenty of male gamers though.
    The Guardian says 52% of gamers are female.

    Washington Post says 48% are women

    Not a gamer myself but would have thought most gamers are in Asia. Read an interesting article on gaming and race during the week (among other things, white males assume gamers they meet online are white males too), similar would apply re gender

    Can the female teams play against male teams in the game?
    You may have a point about Asian gamers. Maybe gaming is more of a unisex (or even female dominated?) activity in Asia, because I'd certainly say that in the west it's considered a male diversion.

    The other thing I wondered was what sort of gaming these figures take into account. If 'gaming' includes phone and tablet games (candy crush etc) then The 52% figure is less surprising. Still surprising, but not so much. If it's consoles and pc gaming only, (which is what my immediate assumption was) then I'm still astounded.

    You make a fair point about assumptions too. I'm aware that I've made some assumptions here! :blush:
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859
    What has the world come to? ;-)

    It's nothing more than a marketing ploy to try and sell more games and reel in potential female gamers.

    It has very little, if anything, to do with wanting to be market leaders and/or equality visionaries in their marketplace.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,791
    jams said:

    Is it a good addition? All for equality but struggling to see the point - existing players won't play more than a handful of games as a novelty and I can't imagine this addition will increase sales much

    51% of the world's population finally have teams representing their sex and you can't see it increasing sales?
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,791

    What has the world come to? ;-)

    It's nothing more than a marketing ploy to try and sell more games and reel in potential female gamers.

    It has very little, if anything, to do with wanting to be market leaders and/or equality visionaries in their marketplace.

    A company that sells things wants to try to sell more? I'm flabbergasted! Next, you'll be telling me that people who buy things want to pay as little as possible.
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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    The whole point of FIFA is that it has to improve every year to a small degree, so this seems a good addition. I don't understand why they haven't fixed the issue with keeper kits often being the same colour as opposing teams. Surely this wouldn't be too difficult to do.
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859

    What has the world come to? ;-)

    It's nothing more than a marketing ploy to try and sell more games and reel in potential female gamers.

    It has very little, if anything, to do with wanting to be market leaders and/or equality visionaries in their marketplace.

    A company that sells things wants to try to sell more? I'm flabbergasted! Next, you'll be telling me that people who buy things want to pay as little as possible.
    Sorry, I should have been more specific so as to rule out any pointless, sarcastic answers.

    Female gamers, on the whole, don't play football/soccer games. Those that do will still continue to play with the established male game/players as they are more desirable (for reasons given below).

    I don't know how much you know about FIFA and it's game modes these days but a lot of it is centred around spending money online to open packs with players in them to build an 'Ultimate Team'. Other than for purely novelty purposes, most gamers wont be interested in acquiring female players as they wouldn't command a sell on fee that would see the gamer claw back some of the money they've spent.

    There are a few big female gamers that play FIFA on YouTube channels but I can't see the inclusion of female players increasing sales to female gamers.



  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,791

    What has the world come to? ;-)

    It's nothing more than a marketing ploy to try and sell more games and reel in potential female gamers.

    It has very little, if anything, to do with wanting to be market leaders and/or equality visionaries in their marketplace.

    A company that sells things wants to try to sell more? I'm flabbergasted! Next, you'll be telling me that people who buy things want to pay as little as possible.
    Sorry, I should have been more specific so as to rule out any pointless, sarcastic answers.

    Female gamers, on the whole, don't play football/soccer games. Those that do will still continue to play with the established male game/players as they are more desirable (for reasons given below).

    I don't know how much you know about FIFA and it's game modes these days but a lot of it is centred around spending money online to open packs with players in them to build an 'Ultimate Team'. Other than for purely novelty purposes, most gamers wont be interested in acquiring female players as they wouldn't command a sell on fee that would see the gamer claw back some of the money they've spent.

    There are a few big female gamers that play FIFA on YouTube channels but I can't see the inclusion of female players increasing sales to female gamers.



    Your argument seems to be"women don't play football games so let's not try to appeal to women". I'd hazard a guess that the makers of the game have done a bit of research and seen that there's a market waiting to be exploited. Sales figures will tell if that's true or not.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,791

    What has the world come to? ;-)

    It's nothing more than a marketing ploy to try and sell more games and reel in potential female gamers.

    It has very little, if anything, to do with wanting to be market leaders and/or equality visionaries in their marketplace.

    A company that sells things wants to try to sell more? I'm flabbergasted! Next, you'll be telling me that people who buy things want to pay as little as possible.
    Sorry, I should have been more specific so as to rule out any pointless, sarcastic answers.

    Female gamers, on the whole, don't play football/soccer games. Those that do will still continue to play with the established male game/players as they are more desirable (for reasons given below).

    I don't know how much you know about FIFA and it's game modes these days but a lot of it is centred around spending money online to open packs with players in them to build an 'Ultimate Team'. Other than for purely novelty purposes, most gamers wont be interested in acquiring female players as they wouldn't command a sell on fee that would see the gamer claw back some of the money they've spent.

    There are a few big female gamers that play FIFA on YouTube channels but I can't see the inclusion of female players increasing sales to female gamers.



    By the way, my comment was neither pointless nor an answer. I readily admit it was sarcastic but the point of my comment was that your initial post fully warranted such.
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859

    What has the world come to? ;-)

    It's nothing more than a marketing ploy to try and sell more games and reel in potential female gamers.

    It has very little, if anything, to do with wanting to be market leaders and/or equality visionaries in their marketplace.

    A company that sells things wants to try to sell more? I'm flabbergasted! Next, you'll be telling me that people who buy things want to pay as little as possible.
    Sorry, I should have been more specific so as to rule out any pointless, sarcastic answers.

    Female gamers, on the whole, don't play football/soccer games. Those that do will still continue to play with the established male game/players as they are more desirable (for reasons given below).

    I don't know how much you know about FIFA and it's game modes these days but a lot of it is centred around spending money online to open packs with players in them to build an 'Ultimate Team'. Other than for purely novelty purposes, most gamers wont be interested in acquiring female players as they wouldn't command a sell on fee that would see the gamer claw back some of the money they've spent.

    There are a few big female gamers that play FIFA on YouTube channels but I can't see the inclusion of female players increasing sales to female gamers.



    Your argument seems to be"women don't play football games so let's not try to appeal to women". I'd hazard a guess that the makers of the game have done a bit of research and seen that there's a market waiting to be exploited. Sales figures will tell if that's true or not.
    By that logic Barbie should announce that it is going to try and appeal to the male market seeing as boys play with action figures :neutral:

  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,212
    Can you play Men v Women on the game then? "Ref, she's all over me!"
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,741

    Can you play Men v Women on the game then? "Ref, she's all over me!"

    Modest as ever H!
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,224
    Are you going to see a surge of sending offs for violent conduct once a month
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    edited May 2015

    The whole point of FIFA is that it has to improve every year to a small degree, so this seems a good addition. I don't understand why they haven't fixed the issue with keeper kits often being the same colour as opposing teams. Surely this wouldn't be too difficult to do.

    Keepers kits don't bother me to much my big issue is the poor refs who give the computer everything and you nothing, surely that is easy to fix o
  • LouisMend
    LouisMend Posts: 5,447

    The whole point of FIFA is that it has to improve every year to a small degree, so this seems a good addition. I don't understand why they haven't fixed the issue with keeper kits often being the same colour as opposing teams. Surely this wouldn't be too difficult to do.

    Keepers kits don't bother me to much my big issue is the poor refs who give the computer everything and you nothing, surely that is easy to fix o
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