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General Election 2015 official thread
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And Farage?0
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The winners were Cameron, Clegg and the Sturgeon
The losers were Greens and Labour
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That debate was pretty useless. Just as Cameron wanted. Personally I was most pleasantly surprised by Nicola Sturgeon, but what's the use of that, she's not somebody I'm able to vote for.1
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Sturgeon was the most accomplished. Cameron looks tired. Miliband (who I will vote for) didn't standout like I had hoped. Farage for his HIV comments will regret he did. The others were irrelevant.5
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Sturgeon may be the winner but on the minus side she has the worse hair of any (man or) woman in the UK. You can't have everything.1
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I bet Ed Davey is relieved.PragueAddick said:That debate was pretty useless. Just as Cameron wanted. Personally I was most pleasantly surprised by Nicola Sturgeon, but what's the use of that, she's not somebody I'm able to vote for.
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Thought the Welsh lady did well. Milliband just stuck to a script. Funny how much distance Clegg tried to get between himself and Cameron. Won't argue about getting back into bed with him for another five years.0
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He makes me laugh in that he is different and can play his character well with no real responsibility. But the novelty of it and the narrowness of his subject range is starting to wear off a little , and I didn't think he looked particularly well.Addickted said:And Farage?
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I bet Ed Davey is relieved.PragueAddick said:That debate was pretty useless. Just as Cameron wanted. Personally I was most pleasantly surprised by Nicola Sturgeon, but what's the use of that, she's not somebody I'm able to vote for.
Funny you should mention him. He's my MP
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Is he a good bloke ;0)PragueAddick said:Addickted said:
I bet Ed Davey is relieved.PragueAddick said:That debate was pretty useless. Just as Cameron wanted. Personally I was most pleasantly surprised by Nicola Sturgeon, but what's the use of that, she's not somebody I'm able to vote for.
Funny you should mention him. He's my MP
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Actually seems from the instant polls I was far from the only one to be impressed with Ms Sturgeon. Yet I would be appalled by the breakup of the UK.0
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Really surprised and disappointed none of the major parties took the welsh and Scottish nationalists to task. The scots want to leave the UK but still want to be part of Europe.2
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6 of them talking bollocks. Farage the only one with the balls to tell it how it is on the National Debt and the scandal of HIV treatment tourists. Easy for Sturgeon to play Mother Theresa with other people's money.8
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People forget the lies that Sturgeon told in the years running up to the Independence vote. The fact is Sturgeon and the SNP are using the same tactics as the populists parties from European 20s and 30s parties used.3
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The more I listen to, the more undecided I become.3
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Cameron makes my skin crawl. I didn't like the way Miliband kept speaking "to the people at home" while looking directly into the camera. Farage just shoehorns immigration or Europe into every answer. Sturgeon was the most impressive. All in all, and judging by the instant poll on ITV, the debate achieved very little and will have very little bearing on the election.iainment said:
This is not specifically about your post.ValleyGary said:I've got no political allegiance whatsoever but Ed Miliband is an absolute creep. He really freaks me out. Plus he chats shite.
But there is a group think I feel chary about. There seems to be a consensus about Milliband. I feel the same way about Cameron but there's no similar traction.
Milliband is Jewish and Cameron is an Anglo toff. Go figure,0 -
IMO it's because they know the mess they got us in, are still in and haven't a clue on getting us out of it. They knew 5 years down the line that the potato would still be hot so kept Ed bean in charge to prevent them from catching it.AFKABartram said:Milliband im starting to think really is marmite. I just think he is such a poor leader choice and the Labour Party were flat out bonkers not replacing 12 months ago. Had they done so I think there would be no question they would soon be in power (rightly or wrongly)
Expect a New 'New Labour' stance shortly after said election with possibly a Balls V Boris scenario in 5 years.0 -
Well its the first i heard of it, so perhaps you can tell me and everyone else how big a scandal it is in terms of costs, and why it isn't easily fixable. Why for example do they come here and not France? After all, many British people go to France for treatment for various ailments.PeanutsMolloy said:6 of them talking bollocks. Farage the only one with the balls to tell it how it is on the National Debt and the scandal of HIV treatment tourists. Easy for Sturgeon to play Mother Theresa with other people's money.
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In terms of idealistic content the Green woman was excellent, in terms of presentation she was appalling.
I must be one of the very few who didn't take to Sturgeon very well, she seemed a bit ahead of herself in assuming she has more power than she's got (yet), anyway I am not a fan of nationalism, but much preferred the Welsh lady. the blokes early on interrupted her, and shouted her down, and the facilitator cut the Welsh lady off when she was trying to make a point which I thought was pretty unfair.
As I said I am not a fan of nationalism, so Farage starts at a low point for me, but I totally agree with him about house building on brown field sites, and his delivery has the common touch which plays well, even if a lot of what he says would crumble under forensic scrutiny.
It was the most fun when Clegg started, and then regularly tried to have a go at his buddy Dave, which pissed Dave off a lot, presentationally Clegg was good, but lacked substance, and it almost goes without saying, credibility.
Cameron looked a bit tired and unwell, he had a bit of a croak in his voice, he kept on with the same old stuff we have been fed for a couple of months now, but it was fascinating to see him framed as an equal rather than the big boss. Cameron looked uncomfortable being there, enduring the experience, but in more controlled situations during the campaign he will come over well to a lot of people.
Miliband starts from a low base, and therefore he did well enough, he sussed the looking at the camera bit, which Dave's advisors must have told him to do during the ad break, but Miliband is really variable and inconsistent in presentation, despite a lot of his policies sounding OK, sadly his persona will play against him unless he can come up with a memorable and effective slogan.
When the heckler started I thought, yes, here we go, lets get ready to rumble, but that was crushed quickly. that was a drag for the Anarchist in me.
Like the questionnaire, there is a bit from each I could agree with, but you can't vote for them all. So I am left contemplating the underlying philosophies which apparently drive the politicians and their parties, and which one is closer to what I believe, or I consider which one of my local candidates has Lewisham East closest to their hearts.
Tricky, yet fascinating, and I would describe myself after all that as an undecided.8 - Sponsored links:
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Perhaps that's the way to go - each EU country specialises in an agreed specific disease and we all go there to be cured.PragueAddick said:
After all, many British people go to France for treatment for various ailments.PeanutsMolloy said:6 of them talking bollocks. Farage the only one with the balls to tell it how it is on the National Debt and the scandal of HIV treatment tourists. Easy for Sturgeon to play Mother Theresa with other people's money.
Just trying to work out what the French would specialise in.
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Wee Eck's stalking horse was impressive. Couldn't have been easy standing up for a couple of hours in those heels either!0
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Whatever needs suppositories at a guess - French health specialities that is.0
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Just finished watching on +1. Cameron nailed the closing speech. Why would anyone want to go back to where the trouble started? 5 more years of overspending on welfare again, building up more debt, and being run by a person with the gravitas of Phil Neville? No thanks. And I also don't fancy the SNP getting their mitts into government which anyone voting Labour will put us as risk of.
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Vote labour and have a foreigner for a neighbour1
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I've got some foreigners living above me. They seem very nice.12
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That's a decent sentiment although I just don't think the ordinary working family and particularly outside of the South East actually feel that the country is doing well. Most families are still very much feeling the pinch. Who exactly is getting the benefit of the supposed upturn. It isn't the ordinary man. I think they are just as scared of more austerity as they are over the perceived risk of Labour. It's exactly why this election is wide open. We have a PM lauding his economic miracle yet nobody apart from a few are feeling any better.DamoNorthStand said:Just finished watching on +1. Cameron nailed the closing speech. Why would anyone want to go back to where the trouble started? 5 more years of overspending on welfare again, building up more debt, and being run by a person with the gravitas of Phil Neville? No thanks.
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Michael Gove on question time. Sorry but irrational as it may seem he creeps me out.6
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Had British Sikhs and Jamaicans living all round me, lovally time had by all great community, then the Slovakian Gypsies moved in en mass and the place turned into an absolute shit-hole, 100% down to them!Leuth said:I've got some foreigners living above me. They seem very nice.
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