Been on SSN moaning about the lack of black managers and , in the next breath, says QPR cannot guarantee Chris Ramsey will be manager next season.
That's the point Les, managers should be picked on ability rather than the colour of their skin whether it's white, black or lilac.
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People like Les Ferdinand, Sol Campbell think they should be able just to walk into top jobs, not the way to do it!!!! Lets look at our old favourite Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink, he went abroad to manage and then wanted a job in England and has had to go to Burton Albion to cut his teeth. I can't imagine Sol or Les doing that.
No sh1t Sherlock.
- I would have thought that the hiring decision would always be looking for the best candidate for the job as money is involved
- There's clearly no similar issue when you look at playing staff, coaches or even punditry
- Where are the out of work black managers that aren't getting a look in?
I'd like to see the race stats surrounding % of training badges completed compared with the % that manage to get a job with a club utilising that badge. Perhaps more should be done to encourage and feed in other races at the lower end (training) to create more candidates?
I mean, you wouldnt want 50% of qualified black coaches getting management jobs compared with 10% of white coaches based purely on skin colour because that would be... oh
https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/club-news/les-ferdinand-steps-down-160123/
Genuine question though to anyone though, why is it black football players make the transition to management as much as white players ? Im sure as with most complex issues there is more than just one reason and it cant solely be racism/discrimination but i dont think it can be compeltely eliminated either as a cause.
The likes of Sol Campbell and Paul Ince start at a lower league club. There is something not quite right.
The whole hire the best man for the job always makes me laugh. Although maybe not wholly applicable to football the best man for the job tends to be the upper class white man who was sent to private school and had access to ample opportunities people from different backgrounds didn't have. Although at least this is steadily improving.
With the controversy at both Yorkshire cricket and Crawley Town in the last few years racism can definitely not be ruled out. At the moment there isn't a massive culture of black players going to get their coaching badges (maybe this is because they feel they won't have opportunities if they do), with time that'll hopefully pick up.
darren Moore is an interesting one. If he gets a mid table finish next year, will premier league yo-yo clubs take a punt on him
That's the Pardew who was awful with us and Saints and then landed the Newcastle job.
One such player was in charge & even generated one of the most famous newspaper headlines of all time
"Super Caley go ballistic, Celtic are atrocious"
I wasn't aware that he was abused last year, disappointing to hear
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65956639
The people I have gone for largely reflect my own world. People that come from similar backgrounds and have had similar experiences to me. I don't think I have hired a single person who wasn't white.
That wasn't remotely intentional, and I don't know how many non-white people even applied for jobs I was advertising. I am sure many must have. Perhaps I didn't even select the CVs of people with names that weren't the kind I would expect to see on my Facebook friend list.
The point I am making here is that racism doesn't have to be overt or intentional. The disparity in the numbers between black players turning into managers is stark, and while prejudice and racism might not be exactly the right words given the way we use them elsewhere, I do believe a heavy degree of bias is at play here, conscious or otherwise.
Be sure to bring this up at the boozer next time my old man is there I’m sure he’ll enlighten you on the subject..
I think I read something once about the NFL where there was a higher bias towards positions (and coaching) that focused on a player being deemed 'intelligent' (such as quarterback or coach) than positions that focused more on physical attributes (such as linebacker or defensive end). This led to the introduction of the Rooney rule.
what I am told by my black colleagues is that seeing black faces in the leadership encourages applicants to apply and people can kind of sense often wether an organisation or team is a place where “ people like me” can flourish
I am a white man but I am explicit to all staff that it’s my role as leader to ensure we are a diverse and inclusive organisation. In doing this I am well read on the subject , I have used a reverse mentor and I’m not afraid to have difficult conversations even when I’m sharing that I feel identity politics is damaging to all., One thing I have found more than anything is that ( just like white folk) black people are not a homogeneous group with the same views and opinions. And most black colleagues and friends do not much like white liberals fighting on their behalf in cheesy ways
Most importantly I have found the richness of a diverse community of staff across all aspects , race gender, faith , sexuality , disability etc to be one of the most fulfilling aspects of my career.