I remember when the old OS had "Your Views" a few fans were calling for Murray OUT! Yes he made mistakes. But I said look where we were when he came in. We had no ground. Basically "Be careful what you wish for". (That then went on to be the title of Tango Man's autobiography).
Inbetween Murray and RD we had Slater and Jimenez.
Now we have RD and had the public protests in recent weeks, I wonder how those heavy Murray critics back then feel now? Ok Murray is still in the background if not as hands on as he was but I wonder how the critics are now feeling about those changes and with hindsight wishing they still had Murray more hands on.
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Out of interest, what would stop you going to a game ?
Genuine question
The other alternative is that RD's plan A delivers and that's not looking promising. That is the reality of where we are.
I just don't get it? I know the club doesn't feel right at the moment but when has it?
Ok we had a little lift by winning league 1 but the 4 or 5 years before were grim unless making league 1 playoffs is classed as acheivment? All these fans in the 16/20 bracket can surely only remember our slippery slide out the prem and beyond so what is it there asking for back?
Personally my low point was our loss the 1st day of season to Exeter 1st game of the season a few years back after a 10 hour round trip and my outburst on talksport on the way back!
So do I want my Charlton back?
No not realy
2000/2001
01/02
02/03
03/04
04/05
05/06
06/07
8 premiership seasons... not 10 years at all.
I think what is disheartening so many on here is not a lack of realism but a lack of a sense of hope.
He wanted a new coaching system for when Curbs left, appointed assistant and first team coaches before appointing an actual head coach (why Billy Davies turned us down).
Appointed Les Reed after getting rid of Dowie and then went on to blame signings to the media.
Should never have appointed parky full time as he had not won a single game in caretaker charge.
He said he would never sell the club to unstable owners... Cash, Jimenez and Slater were unstable owners.
RD is not unstable but he has changed the identity of our club in the last year. Fans are becoming more and more disillusioned with signings and manager appointments.
I thank Murray for helping us out of exile and for our 8 premiership seasons but my loyalties towards him have been gone since he turned his back on everyone mentioned above, along with all respect.
However, I feel the same way that you do in that I no longer believe it makes much difference to the club if he's there or not.
Technically it is "ours" we pay the bills and wages, we spend hundreds of thousands on shirts sponsorships, match tickets, season tickets, club merchandise, bar memberships, valley gold etc etc. Without people doing this there would be no charlton!
But "our charlton" is the one where we can csn go on vslley tours and feel proud, where we watch a match where the players plsy their hearts out for an enthusiastic crowd and whether we won or lost they shared our joy/pain. It was when we had a manager (not head coach) on the touch line that cared not just about the pay check but everyone of us, it was when we were kept in the loop with all news good and bad, it's when we felt at home at home and we actually enjoyed supporting charlton. It was when CAFC was a hobby, a part of our life, we felt part of a bigger family, it was fun and we were loud and proud. We were United and we were a football club as one. Not a belgian millionaires play thing!
So to win league 1 wasn't that great an achievement