I sat through most of the game and from what you are saying you wasn't a million miles from where I was sitting and I saw most of the game without snitching to a steward everytime someone stood up in front of me
It's a football match not the ballet people do stand up it makes me think how would/did henrythecat get on when grounds were all standing back in the day
Grounds were never all standing. There was always the choice to sit in the past.
i used to stand at football matches. I have no problem with people standing. i would fully support having standing areas. if i was in the north stand i would accept that there will areas there where people stand. that is why i don't sit there.
but the reality is that grounds are "all seater". clue is in the name. the norm is to sit in your seat. i actually have to sit for medical reasons as I am unable to stand for long periods. we all stand up and sit at times in the match, that is an accepted part of football. but standing in seated areas isn't the norm. just look round the ground, most people are sitting down.
we are seated in front of the disabled section. I have chosen to sit there, partly for the view, but also because it is an area where sitting is the norm.
the group yesterday were ignorant, rude, selfish who seemed to think they had a right to stand (the rules say they don't) and standing is some kind of proof that you are "proper charlton" (it isn't). the polite requests from people around to sit down was greeted by abuse and aggression. the racist chanting was totally unacceptable.
We have to remember who were we playing.
Such a fixture brings out the "scum" element all clubs have even us.
Far less serious, but indicative of the same mentality, was a group of four blokes who came in the Covered End Upper bogs at the end of the match where there was a long queue and blatantly walked right to the front of it. Nobody said a word. I did think about it for a moment but life experience has taught me that almost certainly I would be the one to get in trouble and frankly life is too short.
i think you are right and my guess is that they will not be there next week.
The group you are on about henrythecat were further along than us.
They may have been playing up possibly but I don't think they obstruct the disabled bit - I even sat on the back row once to check for our bit further along.
Anyone else could easily move to one of the hundreds of seats available nearby. Not ideal but for a one of huge game certinally possible.
Lastly the said group as unpleasant as you may think they were being are regulars and have been all thier lives - most of them sit there every game, so not just turning up cos its Millwall.
Just seems a shame to me that our support always seems to be the one picked on by our own stewards.
The group you are on about henrythecat were further along than us.
They may have been playing up possibly but I don't think they obstruct the disabled bit - I even sat on the back row once to check for our bit further along.
Anyone else could easily move to one of the hundreds of seats available nearby. Not ideal but for a one of huge game certinally possible.
Lastly the said group as unpleasant as you may think they were being are regulars and have been all thier lives - most of them sit there every game, so not just turning up cos its Millwall.
Just seems a shame to me that our support always seems to be the one picked on by our own stewards.
The group you are on about henrythecat were further along than us.
They may have been playing up possibly but I don't think they obstruct the disabled bit - I even sat on the back row once to check for our bit further along.
Anyone else could easily move to one of the hundreds of seats available nearby. Not ideal but for a one of huge game certinally possible.
Lastly the said group as unpleasant as you may think they were being are regulars and have been all thier lives - most of them sit there every game, so not just turning up cos its Millwall.
Just seems a shame to me that our support always seems to be the one picked on by our own stewards.
why should i move due to the anti social behaviour of others? I have sat in those seats for the last 15 years. i like sitting there
i don't care whether the have been attending matches for all of their lives or just one week. their racist chanting was a disgrace. their disregard for those around was appalling.
As far as I am concerned, the stewards were just doing their job, responding to complaints by the other people around. they were not picking on anyone.
The group you are on about henrythecat were further along than us.
They may have been playing up possibly but I don't think they obstruct the disabled bit - I even sat on the back row once to check for our bit further along.
Anyone else could easily move to one of the hundreds of seats available nearby. Not ideal but for a one of huge game certinally possible.
Lastly the said group as unpleasant as you may think they were being are regulars and have been all thier lives - most of them sit there every game, so not just turning up cos its Millwall.
Just seems a shame to me that our support always seems to be the one picked on by our own stewards.
Sit at the front and stand at the back job done, why they have a disabled bay at the back of the stand seems crazy to me. It's like whenever I go to away games I ask for a ticket as far back as possible because I'd like to stand.
I'm disabled & sit at the back of the NW quadrant, in all honesty the view there is 100 times better than sitting right at the front. Plus you don't ger rained on
It's a football match not the ballet people do stand up it makes me think how would/did henrythecat get on when grounds were all standing back in the day
I don't know why,but I get the impression you're not old enough to have ever stood on the terraces.
Where the people standing up at the back of the block obstructing the view of people in the disabled section?
I don't think so Henry - we stand every home game up there without issues. Sure it was more to do with who these lads were - no need for it. Just inflames the situation and negatively affects the atmosphere. Usual stewards picking on home fans rubbish.
yes, they standing in front of the disabled space and a number of other people, including myself, who either wanted to/had to, sit. they were rude and difficult and decided to start arguments with the stewards when asked to sit. I had asked them to sit down earlier and just got a load of abuse and aggression. there was also racist chanting from this group, which was disgusting.
so it wasn't the stewards being difficult. the stewards and been asked to intervene with a group of people who didn't care about anyone else but themselves. a number of them seemed to be organising a fight with millwall fans after the match.
How many rows in front of the Disabled fans were they?
It's a football match not the ballet people do stand up it makes me think how would/did henrythecat get on when grounds were all standing back in the day
Grounds were never all standing. There was always the choice to sit in the past.
i used to stand at football matches. I have no problem with people standing. i would fully support having standing areas. if i was in the north stand i would accept that there will areas there where people stand. that is why i don't sit there.
but the reality is that grounds are "all seater". clue is in the name. the norm is to sit in your seat. i actually have to sit for medical reasons as I am unable to stand for long periods. we all stand up and sit at times in the match, that is an accepted part of football. but standing in seated areas isn't the norm. just look round the ground, most people are sitting down.
we are seated in front of the disabled section. I have chosen to sit there, partly for the view, but also because it is an area where sitting is the norm.
the group yesterday were ignorant, rude, selfish who seemed to think they had a right to stand (the rules say they don't) and standing is some kind of proof that you are "proper charlton" (it isn't). the polite requests from people around to sit down was greeted by abuse and aggression. the racist chanting was totally unacceptable.
We have to remember who were we playing.
Such a fixture brings out the "scum" element all clubs have even us.
Far less serious, but indicative of the same mentality, was a group of four blokes who came in the Covered End Upper bogs at the end of the match where there was a long queue and blatantly walked right to the front of it. Nobody said a word. I did think about it for a moment but life experience has taught me that almost certainly I would be the one to get in trouble and frankly life is too short.
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They may have been playing up possibly but I don't think they obstruct the disabled bit - I even sat on the back row once to check for our bit further along.
Anyone else could easily move to one of the hundreds of seats available nearby. Not ideal but for a one of huge game certinally possible.
Lastly the said group as unpleasant as you may think they were being are regulars and have been all thier lives - most of them sit there every game, so not just turning up cos its Millwall.
Just seems a shame to me that our support always seems to be the one picked on by our own stewards.
i don't care whether the have been attending matches for all of their lives or just one week. their racist chanting was a disgrace. their disregard for those around was appalling.
As far as I am concerned, the stewards were just doing their job, responding to complaints by the other people around. they were not picking on anyone.
I'm guessing there was more than just you who heard the chanting ?
Black, white, yellow, no-one knows