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Possession, Shots and Points

Of course, all that matters at the end of the day is points.

But interesting to see that so far this season we have had the least amount of shots per game in the whole Division (10.1), and the third lowest possession percentage. Only Birmingham and Rotherham have had less possession.

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  • Basically, our whole success begins and ends with Igor staying fit, or AN. Other striker stepping up to the mark. There just is no way I can see that shot:goal ratio against us holding for an entire season (even the Beast will get knackered/suspended eventually), if we want to win games more goals need to be scored.
  • A mixture of competent but busy at the back, and languidly clinical up front.
    Igor said in an interview a couple of weeks ago that he aims to be 'efficient' as a striker, and it looks as if that is our style overall. When Bob bemoaned the Leeds goals at Elland Road, he basically shrugged and said 'top corner', as if he feels he can legislate for most attacking threats, but sometimes 'top corners' happen. I feel that Bob would like a player who can have a go at unexpected moments who may score the equivalent of a special goal to complement our efficient languidly clinical goals.
  • edited November 2014
    From those graphs, the back five are second best in the league at repelling attacks faced and the front two are the best in the division at finding the net. We are however allowing far too many shots against us, as well as creating the least amount of chances in the league - is it too simplistic to say this is proof that midfield is the weakest area of our squad? Could we suggest that, with a stronger midfield, we might be more of a "formidable, constant threat" like Derby?
  • Sometimes when you defend well. And your opponents can't get in your box or behind your fullbacks.They will start shooting from 25/30 yards out.They either go wide or the keeper saves them.but sometimes they go in top corner like at Leeds or they take a bad deflection and go in like all last season.Then why they play in front of your 2lines of 4 we catch them on the counter.
    This seems to be the Belgium way efficiency as Riga said or another word for it Igor Igor Igor.dont like to say it but another couple of signings (good strike partner for Igor) can see play offs.
    If we beat scum next anything is possible.COBig bobs Red army
  • From those graphs, the back five are second best in the league at repelling attacks faced and the front two are the best in the division at finding the net. We are however allowing far too many shots against us, as well as creating the least amount of chances in the league - is it too simplistic to say this is proof that midfield is the weakest area of our squad? Could we suggest that, with a stronger midfield, we might be more of a "formidable, constant threat" like Derby?

    I agree, with a couple of tweeks in the middle we'd be a real force, assuming we have a fit and ready Igor.
  • We have the division’s most clinical attack!

    I'm not sure we've ever been able to say that even in the days of Mendonca and Hunt.
  • great stats and very revealing
  • There was a good point made on Radio 5 by an ex-player recently (I've forgotten who it was). He said that many coaches are obsessed with possession. Possession, he said, ensures that the other team doesn't score. However, how well defences cope when possession is inevitably lost will vary. He felt that it was not surprising that Chelsea were top as they were good with the ball and without the ball. The standard of defending, he claimed, has gone downhill since possession has become an obsession and cited Liverpool, Manchester United, Arsenal and Spurs as being top sides with weaker defences than attacks. It also explained why Southampton were successful this season.

    Bob is proving this year that possession is not necessarily the key. The ex-player talked of 'control' being more important than possession. I think I agree. There are games at all levels where you feel the defence is comfortably soaking up the other team's attack, winning enough in midfield and looking dangerous when they do get to attack yet possession may be well below 50%. The rules haven't changed - scoring more goals than the other team is still the yardstick by which games are decided.

    It does seem that some teams are trying to build good possession teams rather than teams built on the foundation of a solid defence.
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  • The challenge is sustaining it, which seems unlikely. I kind of think it can go either way - either we'll start creating more chances and scoring more often because of our clinical attack, or our attack will stop being so clinical and we'll start to drop points.

    We had a run of games not so long ago where we had just 2 or 3 shots on target. It's a big ask to continue to win points on that basis, because as soon as you concede a goal you've got to score virtually every shot on target you have.
  • Arsenal managed to be successful under George Graham with 1-0 wins all the time
  • rikofold said:

    The challenge is sustaining it, which seems unlikely. I kind of think it can go either way - either we'll start creating more chances and scoring more often because of our clinical attack, or our attack will stop being so clinical and we'll start to drop points.

    We had a run of games not so long ago where we had just 2 or 3 shots on target. It's a big ask to continue to win points on that basis, because as soon as you concede a goal you've got to score virtually every shot on target you have.

    Definition of corporate insanity: same people, same culture but expecting different results.
    When a club is failing to win it looks for new players or a new coach to change things around.
    We are doing well now so why would it change unless through injuries or suspensions.
    Let's see what happens vs Millwall and Ipswich but I don't expect anything different to what I've seen so far this season.
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