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Taking out a Loan - Need Advice

Tried searching because I remember a similar thread but being a football forum, the term Loan gets used alot..

Anyway, I want to take out 5K so I can get my next car and a few other bits n bobs.
Thing is I am only 22 and never done anything like this before.

I had a look at Sainsbury's bank & got 60% chance of being approved.
I don't want to get rejected because I don't want to unnecessary get a bad credit rating just for the sake of a new car. I only really need the loan till I sell my current car anyway, just cant go without a car. Once I have the cash for that I plan on paying it off.

Why does being rejected even give you a bad credit rating? It's not like you've done anything, its only an enquiry at the end of the day?
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  • If available, the Bank of Parents is the best option, especially if it's short term. Failing that, Follow the advice in the above post...............
  • I doubt Wonga ever turn anyone down, you could always try there?

  • The right car has become available now which is why I need to consider it before I lose the opportunity.
    It's not only a daily, but a hobby and long term project plan.

    I am not concerned with my ability to pay back the loan itself. I am in a stable job and have practically zero responsibilities still living with the parents.
  • Taking out a loan and paying it off almost immediately will not help your credit rating either.
  • Could you not lease the car? They seem to be the way to go these days
  • Borrowing money to buy a depreciating asset is a stupid idea

    Not really, most loans are for that...buying a kitchen, bathroom, car etc...stupid is taking out a loan for a longer term loan than the life of the asset or taking one you can't afford to pay back. A house can be a depreciating asset if you buy at the wrong time after all.
  • ask your bank first but dont take out the unemployment option they often try and add to the loan. each time you ask someone for a loan, even on line, they do a credit search even if you dont accept their loan. each time a credit check is done it can lower your credit score so dont apply to often for a loan in a short space of time.
  • I get sold car credit hundreds of time a year. Most of it is for new vehicles but when I get a quote for a used car I nearly choke at the APR that they try to push. If your taking credit directly from the car dealership be aware that the APR they offer you is VERY flexible. In my experience you'll usually be offered an interest rate north of 20% but its pretty easy to get it down to around 10% if you show some interest but let the sales exec know you want to look at another car before committing. Good luck.
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  • Borrowing money to buy a depreciating asset is a stupid idea

    Not really, most loans are for that...buying a kitchen, bathroom, car etc...stupid is taking out a loan for a longer term loan than the life of the asset or taking one you can't afford to pay back. A house can be a depreciating asset if you buy at the wrong time after all.
    Buying a new kitchen will add to the value of the house in real terms.
  • never read so much guff on here as some of the posts above, The adage "never a lender or borrower be" is old and does not apply in the age we are living in and so if I were you Matt I would ignore most of what has been said. A lot of people nowdays borrow to buy a car, mainly through a bank loan or car finance company. Indeed, my last 2 car purchases were through the dealer I bought the car from - one was at 4.9% and the other a bit higher at 6.9%.

    Also, just applying for credit does not harm your credit rating......even being turned down doesn't do too much harm. Credit rating is usually based on your credit HISTORY, ie , how good are you with repaying it ( have you missed any payments and if so how many), how much do you already owe in total etc etc.

    I would agree that the best route would be you parents, esp as you still live at home. Do you currently pay them rent or housekeeping ?? If so, they know that you will pay them regularly & so could you ask them to lent you £5k and you pay them back every month with your housekeeping money.

    hope this helps
  • Who do you bank with?
  • edited November 2014
    MattD said:

    Tried searching because I remember a similar thread but being a football forum, the term Loan gets used alot..

    Anyway, I want to take out 5K so I can get my next car and a few other bits n bobs.
    Thing is I am only 22 and never done anything like this before.

    I had a look at Sainsbury's bank & got 60% chance of being approved.
    I don't want to get rejected because I don't want to unnecessary get a bad credit rating just for the sake of a new car. I only really need the loan till I sell my current car anyway, just cant go without a car. Once I have the cash for that I plan on paying it off.

    Why does being rejected even give you a bad credit rating? It's not like you've done anything, its only an enquiry at the end of the day?

    The bad credit rating is not a bad rating really. I was explained the following by a financial advisor I found on unbiased.co.uk:

    Think of it (in very very simple terms) as a basis of -50 to 50, you start out at zero, however you gain points for paying bills on time moving you into the positives.
    i.e your phone bill if on contract moves you upwards each time you pay it on time. however a quote for a loan passing would be a bigger push up or down let's say 5 points to every 1 point gained by paying your phone bill on time. a missed phone bill payment could be seen as minus 10 points.

    The minus points for a loan rejection is based on a professional not believing you can pay off a sum that you think you can. Basically they're saying you don't know how much you can realistically afford.


    I took out a similar size loan when I was 21, I have only just paid it off. Each time I got a pay rise I increased my pay off amount. in the end it wasn't as expensive as I was initially quoted and made the money easier to set by as I knew I couldn't spend £xxx that month. It's no different to purchasing on credit which I am sure some of the above have done themselves.

    If you can afford the repayments and think it benefits you, go for it.

    I would recommend starting off with a £3-4k loan first though as you'll pay less and be more likely to afford the repayments.

    I recommend you also think about the fact that if you were to spend say £3-4K on a car, you'll also need to insure the bugger. Which no doubt you'd then have to do on credit unless you plan on using the loan to pay that off up front too?

    If that is your plan just remember for the whole term of the loan you will be repaying your car insurance for the first year that you had to insure it.
  • Are there any 0% or very close to 0% credit cards out there still ? I'll leave you to search.
  • moneysavingexpert.com is a great site for weighing up your options.

    I'd borrow as much from friends and family as you possibly can, then make up the difference with a 0% credit card if I were you.
  • I get sold car credit hundreds of time a year. Most of it is for new vehicles but when I get a quote for a used car I nearly choke at the APR that they try to push. If your taking credit directly from the car dealership be aware that the APR they offer you is VERY flexible. In my experience you'll usually be offered an interest rate north of 20% but its pretty easy to get it down to around 10% if you show some interest but let the sales exec know you want to look at another car before committing. Good luck.

    Would it help if the OP sent you a letter at the North Pole?
  • Borrowing money to buy a depreciating asset is a stupid idea

    Not really, most loans are for that...buying a kitchen, bathroom, car etc...stupid is taking out a loan for a longer term loan than the life of the asset or taking one you can't afford to pay back. A house can be a depreciating asset if you buy at the wrong time after all.
    Buying a new kitchen will add to the value of the house in real terms.
    I had a bloke come round to sell me some new windows. He said, new windows adds to the price of your house, he then showed me a list of where it compared with other new things. Apparently a new kitchen adds value, a new bathroom adds value, an extension adds value, central heating adds value...interestingly when I totalled up the amount of value I could add to my house by doing these things my house would have been worth £500K which was double the price the last one on the street went for. All guff.
  • Addicted said:

    moneysavingexpert.com is a great site for weighing up your options.

    I'd borrow as much from friends and family as you possibly can, then make up the difference with a 0% credit card if I were you.

    Good shout. If you can't get the money from family etc a 5k loan won't kill you. I think it's good that so many lifers are offering prudent advice, but at the same time I'm inclined to go with what @golfaddick said. At your age, if you are earning and cover the monthly payments, Get a nice car.

    Life is for the living
  • edited November 2014

    Are there any 0% or very close to 0% credit cards out there still ? I'll leave you to search.

    A few...

    http://www.money.co.uk/credit-cards.htm

    Tesco seem to be the only one doing it without a fee, with 12 months interest free. If that gives you the leeway & time to sell your car & pay off the loan MattD.

    Personally, I agree with a few on here. I had a fair amount of debt when in my early 20s and took several years to pay it off. Decided then that I would save for whatever I wanted and no longer use credit cards or loans. if you possibly can, I recommend it.

    A perfect credit score guarantees you nothing by the way. Living without credit cards, for example, gives lenders/stores less to judge your ability to repay on and you may find you are rejected anyway.
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  • Thanks for all the replies.

    Like I say I will get 2k 2.5k for my current car. The reason I went for a 5k loan is because that's the point of less apr through Sainsburys. Also need about 4k so I can pay insurance outright.

    After bills and boozing I still have about 500 quid to play with each month so not concerned about my ability to pay it back just need to convince be lenders!

    Family loan is out of the question unfortunately and so is finance as its a private seller on a e46 330, not concerned about depreciation
  • If you have 500 to play with each month, is it wise to fund the insurance even partially with a loan?
  • edited November 2014
    Ignore all of this nonsense. If you PM me your bank details and PIN I will transfer £5000 to your account.
  • If you have 500 to play with each month, is it wise to fund the insurance even partially with a loan?

    I cant go until payday without a car, so it would be the only way. I like to do my insurance yearly rather than monthly as well, dont really like direct debits.

  • Matt, Controversial idea , I know it's not going to be popular and goes against the tide of thought, but why not save your money, so you can afford to move out from your parents and get a place in a few years time.

    Sorry for sounding a boring old fart, I would have gone for the car option at 22, if you asked me if I had my time again what would I do, I'd save like mad to get out, and get on the property ladder, but I know properties are well overpriced, and 1st time buying is a nightmare as you need a huge deposit.
  • Who do you bank with? Usually your bank will know all the in's and out's of your finances, how much goes in, how much goes out each month and if you give them a ring, go online, or go in branch to see them you might be surprised to find you could already be pre-approved for a loan.

    I appreciate it sounds as though you have seen something at Sainsburys but i'd still recommend talking to your bank. I bank with Halifax and when I got a loan out recently online it was all pre-approved how much I could borrow. All I had to do was enter in how much I wanted and how long I wanted to pay it back for and as long as it wasn't something stupid like paying back £1,000 a month then Halifax would agree it there and then online. Not only that they also give you the option to take a month's 'holiday' twice through the duration of your loan if you have a tight month and extends the duration of it another month. And I also got the option to pay off my loan early with no added interest.

    For reference i'm 33 y/o and had several loans, usually to pay for a car or other bits and bobs. So long as you know how much you can afford to pay back each month and if your job is secure enough then go for it. Sometimes it's the only option if you or your family don't have the funds but definitely see what your bank can offer.
  • Matt, Controversial idea , I know it's not going to be popular and goes against the tide of thought, but why not save your money, so you can afford to move out from your parents and get a place in a few years time.

    Sorry for sounding a boring old fart, I would have gone for the car option at 22, if you asked me if I had my time again what would I do, I'd save like mad to get out, and get on the property ladder, but I know properties are well overpriced, and 1st time buying is a nightmare as you need a huge deposit.

    I am not really in any rush to move out. It's pretty cushty here. I do my part and pay my way but I dont really crave my own place yet. There are many things I want to do & see first to be honest. Not to mention a 3 grand car isnt really expensive. Yeah I do plan to spend quite a bit on it afterwards, but I am not exactly throwing huge amounts of money at it.

  • Who do you bank with? Usually your bank will know all the in's and out's of your finances, how much goes in, how much goes out each month and if you give them a ring, go online, or go in branch to see them you might be surprised to find you could already be pre-approved for a loan.

    I appreciate it sounds as though you have seen something at Sainsburys but i'd still recommend talking to your bank. I bank with Halifax and when I got a loan out recently online it was all pre-approved how much I could borrow. All I had to do was enter in how much I wanted and how long I wanted to pay it back for and as long as it wasn't something stupid like paying back £1,000 a month then Halifax would agree it there and then online. Not only that they also give you the option to take a month's 'holiday' twice through the duration of your loan if you have a tight month and extends the duration of it another month. And I also got the option to pay off my loan early with no added interest.

    For reference i'm 33 y/o and had several loans, usually to pay for a car or other bits and bobs. So long as you know how much you can afford to pay back each month and if your job is secure enough then go for it. Sometimes it's the only option if you or your family don't have the funds but definitely see what your bank can offer.

    Im with Santander, have been for about 9 years.

    I didnt 'find a deal' at Sainsburys so to speak. I did a 30 second loan search on the internet and Sainsburys was the first company I knew that came up. (Plus also worked for them).
    I will take a look online see if I can find anything about being pre approved!


  • @MattD‌ I work for Santander, although not on the personal side of things, I can check if you are pre approved with them if you want?
  • Can't give any advice specifically other than to say read the small print the terms and conditions in detail.. know what your signing up to and be sure you can meet it all!!
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