We nurtured a talent that went onto captain our country we should be proud if his achievements, we were all angry about his departure when we had the best Charlton team that most of us have seen but that's gone, as they say to all you haters move on
i'm glad he did and softens the blow somewhat.. as that's what he was on course to achieve when he was here. I wish there was a youtube compilation of his time with us, him and rufus would be two comp videos i'd absolutely love to see.
Lot of upset at the time, but the vast majority of us have had our say over the years and have all moved on. In amongst that was the fact he was the best footballer I've seen play for Charlton in my life.
I looked around tonight and no lie, the vast majority of those giving him dogs abuse (when they wasn't taking their shirts off, and bizarrely singing about Adam Johnson being a peodophile, wtf has that got to do with Charlton v Fulham??) would have aged around 3 when he left us.
Couldn't put it better myself - embarrassing and time to remember him as a true Charlton talent who netted the club £10m. Roland Duchatelet will sell any of our current squad for half that, eight years later.
Sounds like a thoroughly unsavoury incident and no way to behave in front of children. Parker takes a lot of shit pretty well generally, ,but its been time to forget it for 10 years now. He was actually a great servant to Charlton and i wish we could show him some gratitude some day.
Agree with this. Upsetting at the time - mainly the way it happened. But he was a young guy with a young family that had been made an offer to double his salary (or thereabouts) and play for a top team. Let's be honest - the playing life of a professional footballer isn't that long so they need to make as best a living as they can to support their family. How many on here - given an option to double there income wouldn't take it! Think people should forgive and forget.
Sounds like a thoroughly unsavoury incident and no way to behave in front of children. Parker takes a lot of shit pretty well generally, ,but its been time to forget it for 10 years now. He was actually a great servant to Charlton and i wish we could show him some gratitude some day.
Agree with this. Upsetting at the time - mainly the way it happened. But he was a young guy with a young family that had been made an offer to double his salary (or thereabouts) and play for a top team. Let's be honest - the playing life of a professional footballer isn't that long so they need to make as best a living as they can to support their family. How many on here - given an option to double there income wouldn't take it! Think people should forgive and forget.
I said that about Poyet and so many people said they would not
my issue is when and how he left, the offer would still have been there at the end of the season(and we probably would have been in Europe) and the way he left
Lot of upset at the time, but the vast majority of us have had our say over the years and have all moved on. In amongst that was the fact he was the best footballer I've seen play for Charlton in my life.
I looked around tonight and no lie, the vast majority of those giving him dogs abuse (when they wasn't taking their shirts off, and bizarrely singing about Adam Johnson being a peodophile, wtf has that got to do with Charlton v Fulham??) would have aged around 3 when he left us.
Couldn't put it better myself - embarrassing and time to remember him as a true Charlton talent who netted the club £10m. Roland Duchatelet will sell any of our current squad for half that, eight years later.
Utterly stupid comparison.
When we sold Parker, we were 4th in the Premier league. Parker was easily worth £10 million.
Now, we are a mid placed Championship side. With FFP, despite some ridiculous transfer fees because of parachute payments, (step forward Fulham and McCormack) do you really think any of our players are worth what Parker was worth at the time?
If you must find a stick to beat Duchatalet with, can you not look for a less ridiculous one?
Sounds like a thoroughly unsavoury incident and no way to behave in front of children. Parker takes a lot of shit pretty well generally, ,but its been time to forget it for 10 years now. He was actually a great servant to Charlton and i wish we could show him some gratitude some day.
Agree with this. Upsetting at the time - mainly the way it happened. But he was a young guy with a young family that had been made an offer to double his salary (or thereabouts) and play for a top team. Let's be honest - the playing life of a professional footballer isn't that long so they need to make as best a living as they can to support their family. How many on here - given an option to double there income wouldn't take it! Think people should forgive and forget.
I said that about Poyet and so many people said they would not
my issue is when and how he left, the offer would still have been there at the end of the season(and we probably would have been in Europe) and the way he left
Not sure the offer would have been there. Think Ranieri signed him - and shortly after he was fired. If he hadn't gone things could have been quite different - for him and us!
Sounds like a thoroughly unsavoury incident and no way to behave in front of children. Parker takes a lot of shit pretty well generally, ,but its been time to forget it for 10 years now. He was actually a great servant to Charlton and i wish we could show him some gratitude some day.
Agree with this. Upsetting at the time - mainly the way it happened. But he was a young guy with a young family that had been made an offer to double his salary (or thereabouts) and play for a top team. Let's be honest - the playing life of a professional footballer isn't that long so they need to make as best a living as they can to support their family. How many on here - given an option to double there income wouldn't take it! Think people should forgive and forget.
I said that about Poyet and so many people said they would not
my issue is when and how he left, the offer would still have been there at the end of the season(and we probably would have been in Europe) and the way he left
poyet would not have been a pretty much guaranteed like for like replacement of patrick viera and roy keane inside 12 months of his move.
Sounds like a thoroughly unsavoury incident and no way to behave in front of children. Parker takes a lot of shit pretty well generally, ,but its been time to forget it for 10 years now. He was actually a great servant to Charlton and i wish we could show him some gratitude some day.
Agree with this. Upsetting at the time - mainly the way it happened. But he was a young guy with a young family that had been made an offer to double his salary (or thereabouts) and play for a top team. Let's be honest - the playing life of a professional footballer isn't that long so they need to make as best a living as they can to support their family. How many on here - given an option to double there income wouldn't take it! Think people should forgive and forget.
I said that about Poyet and so many people said they would not
my issue is when and how he left, the offer would still have been there at the end of the season(and we probably would have been in Europe) and the way he left
poyet would not have been a pretty much guaranteed like for like replacement of patrick viera and roy keane inside 12 months of his move.
I only mentioned Poyet because cafc-west made a comment about Parker and his pay rise
I know there was a lot of anger and bitterness at the time, but Parker left over 10 years ago, it is really is time to move on, life's too short too stay angry.
Yawn. There's really no point in having this debate again. I don't care how other people feel about him or whether or not people boo him, but I can only imagine that if watching him doesn't stir up strong feelings or even hatred then you must have been too young or not involved enough at the time to feel what most people felt about his departure.
Yawn. There's really no point in having this debate again. I don't care how other people feel about him or whether or not people boo him, but I can only imagine that if watching him doesn't stir up strong feelings or even hatred then you must have been too young or not involved enough at the time to feel what most people felt about his departure.
It's actually the complete opposite. The vast majority of those giving him dogs abuse would have been too young to even see him play.
Personally I think our fans are pathetic at times , Parker was superb for us when he played ,the way he left wasnt nice but most people would have done the same FFS it's only human nature everyone wants to better themselves don't blame him for that + we made a nice few quid out of it .
It's wot footballers and their agents do loyalty goes out of the window.
We need to invest in the summer in a couple of vats of Spry Crisp and Dry, we have to do something with all the chips on our fans shoulders. So pathetic sometimes.
Mate he ain't the 1st and he won't be the last on a smaller scale take poyet for instance and wots happened to him Funny old game , the stick Parker got was disgusting but some people just don't get the bigger picture .
Yawn. There's really no point in having this debate again. I don't care how other people feel about him or whether or not people boo him, but I can only imagine that if watching him doesn't stir up strong feelings or even hatred then you must have been too young or not involved enough at the time to feel what most people felt about his departure.
It's actually the complete opposite. The vast majority of those giving him dogs abuse would have been too young to even see him play.
I don't know what dogs abuse is but from what I saw it was all ages booing him. Maybe the bandwagon kids were just more noticeable than others.
Great servant to the club, my arse was he. He was a good to himself and his family and OK I'll except that and no more. I will never forget the manner in which he left and that was not the way a great servant who had only just signed a new contract leaves. To me he is just another player on a long list who screwed us when given an opportunity to do so. But I would add, making panto noises and abusing people isn't something that sits comfortably with me.
It was quite funny looking back at my behaviour at the time. I knew Scotty on a more personal level, was friends with his sister Leanne and still am very close to his cousin and aunt, naturally used to hang out with him sometimes, back at the time of advert above and got very excited for him when he scored his first 1st team goal against hearts in a friendly at the valley, I was straight on the phone calling all his family telling them. However when he left and went to Chelsea I was so angry that I fell out with his cousin (temporarily) and when I bumped into him in blue water a few weeks later I completely ignored him, disgusting behaviour but showed my immaturity at the time, what we need to remember is that it's not personal, for him it was a business move, it wasn't the smartest decision he's ever made and I think if he stayed until the summer he would have done better and got a better deal, but it was a decision that almost anyone would have made in his shoes, he was a young up and coming talent that was offered a job at one of the biggest clubs in the country, no brainer really.
It's been done to death but the form Parker was in at the time he was only getting better and better with us and you can pretty much guarantee if Chelsea didn't come in for him that summer if he stayed with us it would have been another club instead and it wouldn't have surprised me if Man Utd or Arsenal came calling as a long term replacement for Keane or Vieira.
People say yes Parker would have doubled his money but he was on a pretty tasty contract with us anyway, he didn't need the money when he left. He could have handled the situation a lot better and just seen the end of the season out with us but it's done now it's long gone and really time to move on now.
Would those same individuals who despise Parker and abuse him so much think and act the same way had it been their son or brother in that position of making that "dream" move at that time?
It would surely be hypocritical to do anything else wouldn't it? Judging by some people's long memories, it's got to be the footballing equivalent of sleeping with your brother's wife so why wouldn't you react in exactly the same way?
I also hope that Michael Turner got the same level of abuse. Our Young Player Of The Year in 2004 somehow managed to secure himself a transfer for peanuts when all along he was worth millions. Now there's someone who really owes us.
Would those same individuals who despise Parker and abuse him so much think and act the same way had it been their son or brother in that position of making that "dream" move at that time?
It would surely be hypocritical to do anything else wouldn't it? Judging by some people's long memories, it's got to be the footballing equivalent of sleeping with your brother's wife so why wouldn't you react in exactly the same way?
I also hope that Michael Turner got the same level of abuse. Our Young Player Of The Year in 2004 somehow managed to secure himself a transfer for peanuts when all along he was worth millions. Now there's someone who really owes us.
Can hardly blame Turner for leaving, he was given a free transfer by the club. Yet another masterstroke by the club during the complacency years.
I remember when I first heard the news that Parker was going to Chelsea, and It felt like a kick in the guts. He behaved like a spoilt brat in the account described in Curbs book, and whilst I believe most people would have done what he did, and taken the money and the potential for european and international football, I felt cheated at the time.
Curbs also (according to the book) was upset with his attitude and I think was deeply hurt. However if Curbs can move on and work with him (he was in the dugout in the second half, by the way), I think its about time we did also, shit happens and you move on, worrying about things you cant affect only gives you ulcers, or piles, or both- by the way on todays performance I think I would take him back as he still is pretty effective.
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and I will never forgive him, not just the fact he left but its the way he left
my issue is when and how he left, the offer would still have been there at the end of the season(and we probably would have been in Europe) and the way he left
When we sold Parker, we were 4th in the Premier league. Parker was easily worth £10 million.
Now, we are a mid placed Championship side. With FFP, despite some ridiculous transfer fees because of parachute payments, (step forward Fulham and McCormack) do you really think any of our players are worth what Parker was worth at the time?
If you must find a stick to beat Duchatalet with, can you not look for a less ridiculous one?
It's wot footballers and their agents do loyalty goes out of the window.
Funny old game , the stick Parker got was disgusting but some people just don't get the bigger picture .
He was a good to himself and his family and OK I'll except that and no more.
I will never forget the manner in which he left and that was not the way a great servant who had only just signed a new contract leaves.
To me he is just another player on a long list who screwed us when given an opportunity to do so.
But I would add, making panto noises and abusing people isn't something that sits comfortably with me.
People say yes Parker would have doubled his money but he was on a pretty tasty contract with us anyway, he didn't need the money when he left. He could have handled the situation a lot better and just seen the end of the season out with us but it's done now it's long gone and really time to move on now.
Your gana get charlton fans that are normal decent people and your gana get charlton fans that are complete nob heads.
It's the same for almost every club.
It's just strange when people over exaggerate on our fans being "embarrassing".
Just because you support charlton, it doesn't make you a better or worse person, just means you support the right club, as patronising as that sounds.
Baring the betrayal of over 10 years ago and putting charlton aside, I think Parker appears to be a good pro and now a decent bloke because of it.
Booing ex players is just part of the match experience where he in particular should certainly expect nothing less in this case.
It would surely be hypocritical to do anything else wouldn't it? Judging by some people's long memories, it's got to be the footballing equivalent of sleeping with your brother's wife so why wouldn't you react in exactly the same way?
I also hope that Michael Turner got the same level of abuse. Our Young Player Of The Year in 2004 somehow managed to secure himself a transfer for peanuts when all along he was worth millions. Now there's someone who really owes us.
Curbs also (according to the book) was upset with his attitude and I think was deeply hurt. However if Curbs can move on and work with him (he was in the dugout in the second half, by the way), I think its about time we did also, shit happens and you move on, worrying about things you cant affect only gives you ulcers, or piles, or both- by the way on todays performance I think I would take him back as he still is pretty effective.