Noticed Parker avoided the question when asked "how pleasing was it to score against your former team"
I'd imagine having had "you're a c" chanted at him he was very pleased. Same as when he scored for Newcastle, a thoroughly professional way to respond.
Enjoyed listening to the crowd noise during his sky interview, I had wondered if the Mocs would pic up "greedy bastard" chant.
Left charlton on 15 k per week Went to Chelsea on 45 k per week Went Newcastle on 65 k per week Went to west spam on 80 k per week Went to spurs on 60 k per week Went to Fulham on 40k per week Let's face it. That's good. Who wouldn't ?
In the midst of the cash crisis at Pompey, Herman took and instant pay cut in order to fund the ground staff wages. Not a deferment of payment until some future date - but an actual drop in his earnings.
His logic was: "We can't play football on surface that's not right, which also increases the chance of a career-ending injury to one of our team, or the opposition".
Left charlton on 15 k per week Went to Chelsea on 45 k per week Went Newcastle on 65 k per week Went to west spam on 80 k per week Went to spurs on 60 k per week Went to Fulham on 40k per week Let's face it. That's good. Who wouldn't ?
Left charlton on 15 k per week Went to Chelsea on 45 k per week Went Newcastle on 65 k per week Went to west spam on 80 k per week Went to spurs on 60 k per week Went to Fulham on 40k per week Let's face it. That's good. Who wouldn't ?
Medals won - zero
Do you really think he'll care? I know I wouldn't.
In his book Curbs said that Parker said to him that he would "Go to the papers" if he wasn't allowed to go to Chelsea. Curbs said if he did that he would "Sue him" if he did that.
Parker behaving like that by saying he would "Go to the papers if he could not go to Chelsea" was not exactly setting a very good role model example to his young baby son.
What? Read what I said, don't put your spin on it 'If there is substance in these rumours'. Whether I could see the alleged incident is irrelevant! If It is true as has been mentioned on here then let the club identify them and take appropriate action. I'm sorry but I just don't get what is funny about that.
Are these both aimed at me or are you talking to yourself?
Did what you are getting upset about actually happen?
Charlton had no choice at the time other than to accept the money. Comical the amount of booing he got tonight!! Such short memories, such narrow mindedness! He was offered a job at a more esteemed 'company' that gave him more prospects and more money. Wouldn't the ones who booed him do the same? Yes, of course they bloody would!! Banal in the extreme!!
Christ alive; does anybody else hate this robotic, detached, oh so mature and adult shit. It's secondary to me whether he did what was best for him and his family or whether I or anybody else would have done the same. I care about Charlton. In over 50 years of watching mostly disappointing, occasionally turgid football, sometimes amongst only 3000+, we were enjoying the most successful season in my lifetime. I can't remember now how long we had been in the top 4 at the time Parker left, but I think it was several weeks. We had just stuffed Chelsea and won away at Spurs. Have no doubt - Chelsea only tapped him up because we were a genuine threat to their Champion League spot. Who knows whether we would have fell away, but even without him and poorer results that followed we still finished 7th. Why could he not have just held on until the end of the season It's not like the interest in him would have abated? He ruined our perfect season. So however much anybody may argue he did the right thing for him or that anybody else would have done the same - if you have any passion at all for Charlton football club you are entitled to feel frustrated, angry and disappointed. If people still want to boo him - well I think it is counter productive but I support their right to do it. Should I have got over it by now Probably, but hey, bollocks. I am comfortable with my immaturity in this matter. We'll never again get close to Champions League in my lifetime. Do one, Parker.
Left charlton on 15 k per week Went to Chelsea on 45 k per week Went Newcastle on 65 k per week Went to west spam on 80 k per week Went to spurs on 60 k per week Went to Fulham on 40k per week Let's face it. That's good. Who wouldn't ?
In the midst of the cash crisis at Pompey, Herman took and instant pay cut in order to fund the ground staff wages. Not a deferment of payment until some future date - but an actual drop in his earnings.
His logic was: "We can't play football on surface that's not right, which also increases the chance of a career-ending injury to one of our team, or the opposition".
Who wouldn't ?
Ben Haim did n't and was still recieving money from them till recently
It's his life and he should be able to do what the heck he likes. He did serve the club admirably for over 100 games and we got mega bucks for him that the likes of Dowie squandered. He shouldn't have stayed just because we wanted to get into Europe and turned down a huge move. When an opportunity like that comes in, you can't say "Can you please wait eight months" That's stupid and unrealistic (not to mention, selfish) for anyone to expect. What if he broke his leg the next week. If that had been a mate of mine I would have told him to make the move even at Charlton. It's been over a decade he's now 34, a true professional and yes, a great role model to young players and he seems to still care about the club. Time to move on. Rant over.
He did serve the club admirably for over 100 games and we got mega bucks for him that the likes of Dowie squandered. He shouldn't have stayed just because we wanted to get into Europe and turned down a huge move. When an opportunity like that comes in, you can't say "Can you please wait eight months" That's stupid and unrealistic for anyone to expect. What if he broke his leg the next week. If that had been a mate of mine I would have told him to take it even at Charlton. It's been over a decade he's now 34, a true professional and yes, a great role model to young players and he seems to still care about the club.
Well put, and I probably wouldn't argue with it. My point is, my primary concern is not Scott Parker it's Charlton Athletic and what's best for them and how Parkers actions and the way he went about them impacted on the club
He did serve the club admirably for over 100 games and we got mega bucks for him that the likes of Dowie squandered. He shouldn't have stayed just because we wanted to get into Europe and turned down a huge move. When an opportunity like that comes in, you can't say "Can you please wait eight months" That's stupid and unrealistic for anyone to expect. What if he broke his leg the next week. If that had been a mate of mine I would have told him to take it even at Charlton. It's been over a decade he's now 34, a true professional and yes, a great role model to young players and he seems to still care about the club.
Well put, and I probably wouldn't argue with it. My point is, my primary concern is not Scott Parker it's Charlton Athletic and what's best for them and how Parkers actions and the way he went about them impacted on the club
It's his life and he should be able to do what the heck he likes. He did serve the club admirably for over 100 games and we got mega bucks for him that the likes of Dowie squandered. He shouldn't have stayed just because we wanted to get into Europe and turned down a huge move. When an opportunity like that comes in, you can't say "Can you please wait eight months" That's stupid and unrealistic (not to mention, selfish) for anyone to expect. What if he broke his leg the next week. If that had been a mate of mine I would have told him to make the move even at Charlton. It's been over a decade he's now 34, a true professional and yes, a great role model to young players and he seems to still care about the club. Time to move on. Rant over.
Well it would have been 3.5 months, not 8, but anyway there is nothing stupid or unrealistic about it. Had he and we continued in that form there would have been other clubs in for him in the summer, he would have got more in wages, we would have got more in fee - and in FAPL TV money for finishing higher - , we'd have been able to plan ahead for the summer window, and perhaps for Europe. What's so stupid and unrealistic about that? Any player can break a leg anytime. He could have got run over outside the bookies in Esher where he blew so much of the money.Three bloody months..but oh no, not Parker. "I want my money, I want it now, and I don't care what damage I do to CAFC in order to get it." He can do one.
Contrast the departure of Darren Bent. No transfer request, not a word out of place, allowing us to negotiate the maximum possible fee. He left with class. I'm sorry his career - and attitude - took a downturn but if I ever see him at The Valley, I'll be on my feet applauding him.
It's his life and he should be able to do what the heck he likes. He did serve the club admirably for over 100 games and we got mega bucks for him that the likes of Dowie squandered. He shouldn't have stayed just because we wanted to get into Europe and turned down a huge move. When an opportunity like that comes in, you can't say "Can you please wait eight months" That's stupid and unrealistic (not to mention, selfish) for anyone to expect. What if he broke his leg the next week. If that had been a mate of mine I would have told him to make the move even at Charlton. It's been over a decade he's now 34, a true professional and yes, a great role model to young players and he seems to still care about the club. Time to move on. Rant over.
4 months would have done. If Chelsea really valued him they would have waited. They ruined and derailed our season just because we were ahead of them at Christmas (and thumped them). I doubt we were good enough to sustain that form through the second half of the season but who knows. If Chelsea really valued him after they signed him he would have been more than a bench warmer in a season when they won the league, Parker was not good enough for them to play the required amount of games to qualify for a medal. They were able to so do because money was no object to them and we had no option but to take the money while also having no time to find a replacement by the end of the transfer window. Parker had only a few months previously signed a 5 year deal with us, just been picked for the England squad and looked to many to have a very big future. At 34 he has been a professional for a about 17 years, which is a fantastic achievement in itself, but I would call him a journeymen footballer who never reached his potential. He has made a very good living from football and shown young footballers how to be a role model true professional; don't worry about contracts, medals and honors take the money. As he said Charlton were a stepping stone, the only thing he cares about is that we were there to be that stepping stone. True it is his life, but to serve our club admirably I would think that is stretching his commitment to Charlton. He really did show me how much he cared in the one season, Charlton had a fantastic side built round him in midfield, he lobbed his toys out his cot and sulked until he got his own way. Maybe he is a true professional.
You don't sign a 5 year contract and a couple of months later demand to leave your job, it's bang out of order.
The understanding allegedly was that if he signed a 5 year contract he would be advised if any of the big clubs came in for him. Also allegedly but never denied Murray kept the Chelsea' approach away from him.
Like Tom K I think we failed to capitalise on the revenue we received, albeit because of the timing it was not till the summer that we could have done so.
Thar said can anyone remember who did come in that summer?
I cannot understand or believe the vitriol surrounding Scott both last night and on this forum the rubbish being spoken over his departure and reasons are frankly pathetic. In regards to loyalty in Football talk to Chris Powell/Kergomant talk to all the kids who don't make it - Footballers are a commodity
We as fans can be irrational at times even with our own we can be disloyal in terms of support/critism of players who play for us so how can we expect any player in any era to show complete loyalty - unfortunately its a job !!
At the time Chelsea or rather Abramovich was chasing big names - Duff was Blackburn through and through - Bridge was the 2nd best England left back and went to Chelsea when they had the 1st in Cole. He clearly thought after seein Scott in the boxing day game that there was a player that could stop the Chelsea bandwagon rolling or at least help it get going.
Its been said before that given the opportunity to secure your future for life and that of your family why would you pass up on that? Who knows if the offer was " you come now or you don't come at all"
On last nights game whilst as a Charlton supporter over 50 years I recognise passion and that supporters need an "edge" when following their team.Those who call someone a c*** and w****** and sing it should take a long look at themselves. Standing in the crowd amongst Charlton fans last night was plainly embarrassing
There are some people who no doubt show a wholly than thou attitude over racism in football yet vent their spleen in the most disgusting ways. Why is it ok to call another human being a C*** with so much anger especially when you don't really know them.
On a last point those who question Scott's career would probably give their all to have been in the position once where he has been.
I for one will stand proud to applaud him when he returns to the Valley - I hope fair minded Charlton fans do also.
I didn't see him get coined but if he did that's absolutely disgraceful - and just like the Carson incident could land the club in trouble.
For what it's worth I don't hate Parker anymore. We're a selling club and we sold him for more than anyone else that we've produced, he therefore is the prime justification for our tremendous youth policy which is paying dividends to this day,
I was obviously being flippant with my comment about Church leaving in January but the fact remains that some people are only get agitated at the mention of Parker's name because he is/was so good.
Rarely is there more than a mention when one of our youngsters is let go but when, as in the case of someone like Turner, that player does make it in the top flight the reaction is "we had better than him at the time anyway".
The truth is that a player is a commodity. The Club and player both know that. When it suits the Club to sell a player at the right time it's good business. When it doesn't the player gets abuse for the next decade by fans. We got top money for Parker. We might not have got as much had we sold him at the end of the season.
One final thought. If anyone seriously thinks we were guaranteed Champions League football had Parker stayed needs, I would suggest, to check the record books and check our form pre and post January under Curbs. It doesn't make pretty reading.
One final thought. If anyone seriously thinks we were guaranteed Champions League football had Parker stayed needs, I would suggest, to check the record books and check our form pre and post January under Curbs. It doesn't make pretty reading.
Mate, we finished 7th. How pretty do you want it to read? Do you seriously think we wouldn't have finished higher had Parker remained? I don't think anybody has said they thought Champions League football was guaranteed. We had a shot.
I cannot understand or believe the vitriol surrounding Scott both last night and on this forum the rubbish being spoken over his departure and reasons are frankly pathetic. In regards to loyalty in Football talk to Chris Powell/Kergomant talk to all the kids who don't make it - Footballers are a commodity
We as fans can be irrational at times even with our own we can be disloyal in terms of support/critism of players who play for us so how can we expect any player in any era to show complete loyalty - unfortunately its a job !!
At the time Chelsea or rather Abramovich was chasing big names - Duff was Blackburn through and through - Bridge was the 2nd best England left back and went to Chelsea when they had the 1st in Cole. He clearly thought after seein Scott in the boxing day game that there was a player that could stop the Chelsea bandwagon rolling or at least help it get going.
Its been said before that given the opportunity to secure your future for life and that of your family why would you pass up on that? Who knows if the offer was " you come now or you don't come at all"
On last nights game whilst as a Charlton supporter over 50 years I recognise passion and that supporters need an "edge" when following their team.Those who call someone a c*** and w****** and sing it should take a long look at themselves. Standing in the crowd amongst Charlton fans last night was plainly embarrassing
There are some people who no doubt show a wholly than thou attitude over racism in football yet vent their spleen in the most disgusting ways. Why is it ok to call another human being a C*** with so much anger especially when you don't really know them.
On a last point those who question Scott's career would probably give their all to have been in the position once where he has been.
I for one will stand proud to applaud him when he returns to the Valley - I hope fair minded Charlton fans do also.
I share your distaste and abhorrence of the vitriol and foul language I really do. Although for sections of our crowd it's not just Scott Parker, anyone is fair game including our own players. That's another subject
As for the rest of you post, I just can't buy into this "Scott" this and "Scott" that, jolly good luck and let's accept it gracefully tack.
As for standing proud (really) and applauding him when he returns to the Valley - well he's already returned at least once, but whatever floats your boat. I'll reserve my applause for the Charlton team
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Enjoyed listening to the crowd noise during his sky interview, I had wondered if the Mocs would pic up "greedy bastard" chant.
Not a deferment of payment until some future date - but an actual drop in his earnings.
His logic was: "We can't play football on surface that's not right, which also increases the chance of a career-ending injury to one of our team, or the opposition".
Who wouldn't ?
Parker behaving like that by saying he would "Go to the papers if he could not go to Chelsea" was not exactly setting a very good role model example to his young baby son.
Did what you are getting upset about actually happen?
It's secondary to me whether he did what was best for him and his family or whether I or anybody else would have done the same.
I care about Charlton.
In over 50 years of watching mostly disappointing, occasionally turgid football, sometimes amongst only 3000+, we were enjoying the most successful season in my lifetime.
I can't remember now how long we had been in the top 4 at the time Parker left, but I think it was several weeks.
We had just stuffed Chelsea and won away at Spurs.
Have no doubt - Chelsea only tapped him up because we were a genuine threat to their Champion League spot.
Who knows whether we would have fell away, but even without him and poorer results that followed we still finished 7th.
Why could he not have just held on until the end of the season It's not like the interest in him would have abated?
He ruined our perfect season.
So however much anybody may argue he did the right thing for him or that anybody else would have done the same - if you have any passion at all for Charlton football club you are entitled to feel frustrated, angry and disappointed.
If people still want to boo him - well I think it is counter productive but I support their right to do it.
Should I have got over it by now Probably, but hey, bollocks. I am comfortable with my immaturity in this matter.
We'll never again get close to Champions League in my lifetime.
Do one, Parker.
My point is, my primary concern is not Scott Parker it's Charlton Athletic and what's best for them and how Parkers actions and the way he went about them impacted on the club You move on.
Contrast the departure of Darren Bent. No transfer request, not a word out of place, allowing us to negotiate the maximum possible fee. He left with class. I'm sorry his career - and attitude - took a downturn but if I ever see him at The Valley, I'll be on my feet applauding him.
Parker had only a few months previously signed a 5 year deal with us, just been picked for the England squad and
looked to many to have a very big future. At 34 he has been a professional for a about 17 years, which is a fantastic achievement in itself, but I would call him a journeymen footballer who never reached his potential. He has made a very good living from football and shown young footballers how to be a role model true professional; don't worry about contracts, medals and honors take the money.
As he said Charlton were a stepping stone, the only thing he cares about is that we were there to be that stepping stone. True it is his life, but to serve our club admirably I would think that is stretching his commitment to Charlton.
He really did show me how much he cared in the one season, Charlton had a fantastic side built round him in midfield, he lobbed his toys out his cot and sulked until he got his own way.
Maybe he is a true professional.
Like Tom K I think we failed to capitalise on the revenue we received, albeit because of the timing it was not till the summer that we could have done so.
Thar said can anyone remember who did come in that summer?
We as fans can be irrational at times even with our own we can be disloyal in terms of support/critism of players who play for us so how can we expect any player in any era to show complete loyalty - unfortunately its a job !!
At the time Chelsea or rather Abramovich was chasing big names - Duff was Blackburn through and through - Bridge was the 2nd best England left back and went to Chelsea when they had the 1st in Cole. He clearly thought after seein Scott in the boxing day game that there was a player that could stop the Chelsea bandwagon rolling or at least help it get going.
Its been said before that given the opportunity to secure your future for life and that of your family why would you pass up on that? Who knows if the offer was " you come now or you don't come at all"
On last nights game whilst as a Charlton supporter over 50 years I recognise passion and that supporters need an "edge" when following their team.Those who call someone a c*** and w****** and sing it should take a long look at themselves. Standing in the crowd amongst Charlton fans last night was plainly embarrassing
There are some people who no doubt show a wholly than thou attitude over racism in football yet vent their spleen in the most disgusting ways. Why is it ok to call another human being a C*** with so much anger especially when you don't really know them.
On a last point those who question Scott's career would probably give their all to have been in the position once where he has been.
I for one will stand proud to applaud him when he returns to the Valley - I hope fair minded Charlton fans do also.
Rarely is there more than a mention when one of our youngsters is let go but when, as in the case of someone like Turner, that player does make it in the top flight the reaction is "we had better than him at the time anyway".
The truth is that a player is a commodity. The Club and player both know that. When it suits the Club to sell a player at the right time it's good business. When it doesn't the player gets abuse for the next decade by fans. We got top money for Parker. We might not have got as much had we sold him at the end of the season.
One final thought. If anyone seriously thinks we were guaranteed Champions League football had Parker stayed needs, I would suggest, to check the record books and check our form pre and post January under Curbs. It doesn't make pretty reading.
Do you seriously think we wouldn't have finished higher had Parker remained?
I don't think anybody has said they thought Champions League football was guaranteed.
We had a shot.
Although for sections of our crowd it's not just Scott Parker, anyone is fair game including our own players.
That's another subject
As for the rest of you post, I just can't buy into this "Scott" this and "Scott" that, jolly good luck and let's accept it gracefully tack.
As for standing proud (really) and applauding him when he returns to the Valley - well he's already returned at least once, but whatever floats your boat.
I'll reserve my applause for the Charlton team