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Is this the end of us slipping under the radar

At the the start of the season when we were joint 2nd favourites for relegation, I was thinking and also saw a few people on hear saying the same thing, that hopefully it means we can slip under the radar.

I just read a comment from someone at Sky saying Vetokele is now from 100/1 to 20/1 to be top goalscorer meaning he is a serious contender(Although being away for nearly 2 months at the start of next season I would not bet on him) and we are now into 12/1 to be promoted I have looked you can even get 10/1 at Coral and its 9/1 for relegation.

Does this now put pressure onto the players and will teams now coming up against us change the way the played
we seem to have gone from relegation favourites to a much harder team.

I was hoping we could slip under the radar for another month, but I suppose being unbeaten against the 3 losing Play off teams last season has changed that.

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  • Literally couldn't give two shits about what the bookies say
  • I think most managers knew that had to play Charlton twice this season already.

    The betting odds will be totally irrelevant to how managers or players approach games v us. They were irrelevant at the start of the season and are irrelevant now as far as how other teams approach our games.

    They will have scouted us, watched the videos, noticed the strengths and weaknesses etc regardless.

    They will not have been scouting on Betfair, Football Manager or FIFA15

    ?
  • I must say, I have forgotten about him being away at the African Nations.

    That is more than a big blow. That would change our season with the back up strikers at present.
  • Lets make this clear because people seem to be missing the point, I only mentioned the Bookies because it added context

    My point was we was a unknown quantity at the start of the season, after the way we played last season, all the new signings and new manager
    but now people know we are a decent side who like to pass the ball so why that change managers approach when the play us
  • Good question.

    Clubs send scouts to most games and I think, therefore, that they will have been put on alert after the Wigan and Derby games. Fans and the media take a little bit longer to catch on.

    It will be very interesting to see how Watford and Wolves are set up against us. Big Bob, at the moment, seems insistent on 4-4-2 home or away ceding possession until the last third but breaking very quickly and accurately. I think we may see a lot of teams now playing a cautious 4-5-1 with a couple of defensive midfielders to stop the quick breaks.

    I think we'll be frustrated with a lot of our attacks but may get several free kicks so set plays will become increasingly important.

    In answer to your question, I think we're already over the radar.
  • I think most managers knew that had to play Charlton twice this season already.

    The betting odds will be totally irrelevant to how managers or players approach games v us. They were irrelevant at the start of the season and are irrelevant now as far as how other teams approach our games.

    They will have scouted us, watched the videos, noticed the strengths and weaknesses etc regardless.

    They will not have been scouting on Betfair, Football Manager or FIFA15

    Or have they?

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/aug/11/football-manager-computer-game-premier-league-clubs-buy-players

    ;-)
  • I must say, I have forgotten about him being away at the African Nations.

    That is more than a big blow. That would change our season with the back up strikers at present.

    Angola haven't got to the finals yet!
  • Scoham said:

    I think most managers knew that had to play Charlton twice this season already.

    The betting odds will be totally irrelevant to how managers or players approach games v us. They were irrelevant at the start of the season and are irrelevant now as far as how other teams approach our games.

    They will have scouted us, watched the videos, noticed the strengths and weaknesses etc regardless.

    They will not have been scouting on Betfair, Football Manager or FIFA15

    Or have they?

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/aug/11/football-manager-computer-game-premier-league-clubs-buy-players

    ;-)
    Self praise is no praise at all : - )

    That is funny though
  • Literally couldn't give two shits about what the bookies say

    Spot on. unless you are having a bet it means nothing.
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  • I must say, I have forgotten about him being away at the African Nations.

    That is more than a big blow. That would change our season with the back up strikers at present.

    Angola haven't got to the finals yet!
    Feel bad saying this, but I have my fingers crossed they don't! Need him in SE7.
  • Lets make this clear because people seem to be missing the point, I only mentioned the Bookies because it added context

    My point was we was a unknown quantity at the start of the season, after the way we played last season, all the new signings and new manager
    but now people know we are a decent side who like to pass the ball so why that change managers approach when the play us

    Better not to fill the first two paras with stuff about bookies and odds then

    What will change it that they now have more to go on ie five league games so they can see how we set up at set pieces (zonally), who plays were, how good Igor is and they will alter their game plans to deal with that.

    At the same time we will have looked at the other sides to see what they are doing.
  • We've been good for about 5 games, even our pre-season was shakey (not that it matters).

    I doubt people will be considering us as real challengers just yet.
  • I must say, I have forgotten about him being away at the African Nations.

    That is more than a big blow. That would change our season with the back up strikers at present.

    Even if they do not qualify, Angola will still have to play five matches up to the end of the year.
    You have to say when he returns back from International duty he is not going to be in the best of shape.
    Still I suppose it is what it is.

  • Better not under the radar than off the radar completely..
  • Addicted said:

    We've been good for about 5 games, even our pre-season was shakey (not that it matters).

    I doubt people will be considering us as real challengers just yet.

    That's my feeling at the present time too.
  • I got Vetokele top goalscorer at 150-1 before the season sraterd!
  • I got Vetokele top goalscorer at 150-1 before the season sraterd!

    Hope you are right, but I still worry about Jan, Feb time
  • Went into the local bookie who were only giving 66-1 so walked home with intention of online price of 150-1 which i know some of you have done.
    This was a few days before Brentford game.

    The reason i changed my mind was the african nations, plus did not want him burdened with my £5.


  • The reason i changed my mind was the african nations, plus did not want him burdened with my £5.

    And Igor wouldn't have wanted you burdened with your £750 winnings.


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  • Not the end but the beginning of the end. Few more games yet.
  • As a well known rap band once said in one of their songs 'don't believe the hype' stay grounded , don't forget the things you did that got you where you were , and have fun!

    We will need to keep evolving this season , its a good test for Bob , didn't Blackpool win their first 5 games last season?

    Early days , its a long long season , as long as its more fun and enjoyable than last season , i'm happy , and thats my attitude for the season , or i'm out.
  • Literally couldn't give two shits about what the bookies say

    Well, literally you could. Maybe literally won't, which is what we'd hope.
  • Angola will qualify and January will be our shit month
  • Scoham said:

    I think most managers knew that had to play Charlton twice this season already.

    The betting odds will be totally irrelevant to how managers or players approach games v us. They were irrelevant at the start of the season and are irrelevant now as far as how other teams approach our games.

    They will have scouted us, watched the videos, noticed the strengths and weaknesses etc regardless.

    They will not have been scouting on Betfair, Football Manager or FIFA15

    Or have they?

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/aug/11/football-manager-computer-game-premier-league-clubs-buy-players

    ;-)
    Self praise is no praise at all : - )

    That is funny though
    It could explain why people like Rio Ferdinand and Eden Hazard have complained recently about their stats in FIFA 15. The press seem to assume this is just vanity or fear of piss-taking by teammates. I think it's about money.
  • Imagine we are still about 10th-12th favourites. The odds are not who the bookies think will win but driven by the money being bet. If 100 people whack a ton on Blackpool today to win the league their odds will come right in.
  • edited September 2014
    MrOneLung said:

    If 100 people whack a ton on Blackpool today to win the league their odds will come right in.

    They're wasting their money.

    Blackpool won't win today.

    ;o)

    EDIT:Oops, misread that as Blackpool to win today. Doh!
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