I have the highest regard for Curbs but the only way he will work in the prem again is if someone like Burnley take a chance on him when they have about six points at Christmas time. He is past his sell by date in afraid.
Seems a bit strange - here is a man who's had the life most of us can only dream about - played professional football and then went on to be a successful manager for a decade, probably still has more money than I will ever have, yet I am tempted to say I feel sorry for him.
His problem is that he's been out of the game so long who is going to give him a chance? Especially if he is going to be picky.
I'm also concerned about Chrissy, but at least he is a much younger man.
now till 1am. Saying that he had offers to leave CAFC. And that "West ham were the club for me".
The context of the comment was around Curbs always having a clause in his contract that he could leave Charlton if the right club came in , but he didn't choose to have a similar clause at West Ham.
To be fair to him ,I now live in East London and have retained my allegiance to Charlton. Had I been born and brought up in Canning Town I suspect I too would have been a happy Hammer . He also said that he turned West Ham down whilst managing us .
In his much criticised book which was published before his brief spell at Upton Park one of the more interesting passages which did add depth was on the subject of the happy Hammers . He didn't deny that it had crossed his mind about managing them , but at the time they came calling his son's school virtually all were West Ham supporters and he didn't want to put him in an awkward position if the team was doing badly that he might have got bullied and teased about it.
Seems a bit strange - here is a man who's had the life most of us can only dream about - played professional football and then went on to be a successful manager for a decade, probably still has more money than I will ever have, yet I am tempted to say I feel sorry for him.
His problem is that he's been out of the game so long who is going to give him a chance? Especially if he is going to be picky.
I'm also concerned about Chrissy, but at least he is a much younger man.
He's persona non grata in the football world since suing the Hammers and winning. What team in their right mind would employ him. Don't feel sorry for him, he's bloody loaded!
Whilst I don't necessarily agree with it, I can understand why people say that he has now been out of the game too long to be a successful manager again.
However, with that in mind, I am absolutely baffled that Glenn Hoddle, having spent the last year reminding us of his existence by doing pundit work on Sky Sports and during the World Cup, is now getting linked with managerial positions again. He's been out of work for two years longer than Curbs and has a mixed managerial history. Someone on Talksport the other day even suggested he could be a contender to succeed Roy Hodgson!
For what it's worth, I'd back Curbs to keep Palace up (causing me to vomit from my eyeballs in the process), I'd expect Hoddle to take them down.
How Fulham failed to promote him from within is an absolute joke when he was the perfect man for the job there
I'll be honest some of the small undertones I feel are on all these types of threads about Curbs from the "odd" Charlton fan make me feel a bit sick in the stomach and remind me why I don't think we were worthy of the footballing managerial god that was Alan Curbishley and the fact I think we have some right plums who support us
How Fulham failed to promote him from within is an absolute joke when he was the perfect man for the job there
I'll be honest some of the small undertones I feel are on all these types of threads about Curbs from the "odd" Charlton fan make me feel a bit sick in the stomach and remind me why I don't think we were worthy of the footballing managerial god that was Alan Curbishley and the fact I think we have some right plums who support us
Seems a bit strange - here is a man who's had the life most of us can only dream about - played professional football and then went on to be a successful manager for a decade, probably still has more money than I will ever have, yet I am tempted to say I feel sorry for him.
His problem is that he's been out of the game so long who is going to give him a chance? Especially if he is going to be picky.
I'm also concerned about Chrissy, but at least he is a much younger man.
He's persona non grata in the football world since suing the Hammers and winning. What team in their right mind would employ him. Don't feel sorry for him, he's bloody loaded!
Curbs would still do a fantastic job for any club but i agree with others, that he is going to struggle to get another management job, as he has been out of the game so long and we know how much Chairmen like to appoint someone from the recently failed merry go round of poor managers in this country.
It's the same reason why SCP needs to snatch any job in the Championship or top half League 1 that he gets offered before he gets forgotten aswell.
@oohaahmortimer well said. Curbs has been and will always be my biggest football hero and I'd be thrilled if he ever came back to work at Charlton, in whatever capacity. It's a shame that he's been out of the game for so long that some people don't seem to rate him anymore. Personally I don't understand why that is much relevant because in my opinion the ability of a manager who has nearly two decades of successful management experience won't easily get undermined by being off the hot seat for six years. Had Curbs taken the Wolves job, I believe he would still be working now (for a football club instead of TV stations) and doing far better than the likes of Allardyce, Pardew or Redknapp.
How Fulham failed to promote him from within is an absolute joke when he was the perfect man for the job there
I'll be honest some of the small undertones I feel are on all these types of threads about Curbs from the "odd" Charlton fan make me feel a bit sick in the stomach and remind me why I don't think we were worthy of the footballing managerial god that was Alan Curbishley and the fact I think we have some right plums who support us
How Fulham failed to promote him from within is an absolute joke when he was the perfect man for the job there
I'll be honest some of the small undertones I feel are on all these types of threads about Curbs from the "odd" Charlton fan make me feel a bit sick in the stomach and remind me why I don't think we were worthy of the footballing managerial god that was Alan Curbishley and the fact I think we have some right plums who support us
I definitely agree with this. How anyone can even remotely question what Curbs did for us. The man was practically dipping into his own pocket in the early managerial years to fund scouting trips, away games etc. He was in charge in what was arguably our most successful (sustained period - Although I can see many people prompting for the Jimmy Seed days of the FA Cup final and finishing 2nd in the top division (before my time though)).
He built a fantastic team culminating in that magical day on the 25th May 1998. We then enjoyed some really good years in the Prem, punching well above our weight. I will honestly say though, that I do believe he knew we would struggle the season he chose to leave. We might not have got relegated, but it would've been touch and go. The mainstays of that team were coming to the end of their careers (Holland etc). I think you could argue there are comparisons between the timing of his departure and Alex Ferguson's. I think they both knew it was time to go (albeit on completely different scales).
I have no problem with this as he explained in his book that his passion was waning. Yes, there may have been an element of self protection, protecting his reputation etc, but he earned that right. I also think he has been very clever in not jumping at any old job. Location is important to him as he is settled in Essex (I believe). I know he was very close to the Villa job before Houllier, as my uncle went to a Q&A session with him the night of Houllier's appointment, and he actually said 'he didn't expect to be there'.
I actually think it's one of the sad facts of the game that in management, how often do we see a manager that has built a good reputation, fail at one job, and then drop down the football league ladder. For me, Steve Bruce is a good manager, I found it strange that he had to take the Hull job and drop down into the Championship. Where will David Moyes end up. I mean yes, the Man Utd job was beyond him, but I feel that one season has undone all the good work he did 10 years previous with Everton, and I could see him ending up at West Brom or somewhere like that.......
@oohaahmortimer well said. Curbs has been and will always be my biggest football hero and I'd be thrilled if he ever came back to work at Charlton, in whatever capacity. It's a shame that he's been out of the game for so long that some people don't seem to rate him anymore. Personally I don't understand why that is much relevant because in my opinion the ability of a manager who has nearly two decades of successful management experience won't easily get undermined by being off the hot seat for six years. Had Curbs taken the Wolves job, I believe he would still be working now (for a football club instead of TV stations) and doing far better than the likes of Allardyce, Pardew or Redknapp.
Agreed. However we live in an age where the Premier League obsessed Football media move from one trend/fashion to the next in no time - whether it be managers, players, teams, formations etc. That is IMO part of the reason why his perception has been damaged.
As Charlton fans we know what he is capable of, but the casual football fan/media outlet are always only ever interested in what Jose Mourinho is saying or what player Harry Redknapp might be after. Any ex-manager outside of that little Premier League bubble is just seen to have a lesser level opinion.
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Going to give it a listen though.
Nah I love curbs but we've mutually moved on.
His problem is that he's been out of the game so long who is going to give him a chance? Especially if he is going to be picky.
I'm also concerned about Chrissy, but at least he is a much younger man.
The context of the comment was around Curbs always having a clause in his contract that he could leave Charlton if the right club came in , but he didn't choose to have a similar clause at West Ham.
To be fair to him ,I now live in East London and have retained my allegiance to Charlton. Had I been born and brought up in Canning Town I suspect I too would have been a happy Hammer . He also said that he turned West Ham down whilst managing us .
In his much criticised book which was published before his brief spell at Upton Park one of the more interesting passages which did add depth was on the subject of the happy Hammers . He didn't deny that it had crossed his mind about managing them , but at the time they came calling his son's school virtually all were West Ham supporters and he didn't want to put him in an awkward position if the team was doing badly that he might have got bullied and teased about it.
However, with that in mind, I am absolutely baffled that Glenn Hoddle, having spent the last year reminding us of his existence by doing pundit work on Sky Sports and during the World Cup, is now getting linked with managerial positions again. He's been out of work for two years longer than Curbs and has a mixed managerial history. Someone on Talksport the other day even suggested he could be a contender to succeed Roy Hodgson!
For what it's worth, I'd back Curbs to keep Palace up (causing me to vomit from my eyeballs in the process), I'd expect Hoddle to take them down.
I'll be honest some of the small undertones I feel are on all these types of threads about Curbs from the "odd" Charlton fan make me feel a bit sick in the stomach and remind me why I don't think we were worthy of the footballing managerial god that was Alan Curbishley and the fact I think we have some right plums who support us
It's the same reason why SCP needs to snatch any job in the Championship or top half League 1 that he gets offered before he gets forgotten aswell.
Hopefully they both get something this season.
He built a fantastic team culminating in that magical day on the 25th May 1998. We then enjoyed some really good years in the Prem, punching well above our weight. I will honestly say though, that I do believe he knew we would struggle the season he chose to leave. We might not have got relegated, but it would've been touch and go. The mainstays of that team were coming to the end of their careers (Holland etc). I think you could argue there are comparisons between the timing of his departure and Alex Ferguson's. I think they both knew it was time to go (albeit on completely different scales).
I have no problem with this as he explained in his book that his passion was waning. Yes, there may have been an element of self protection, protecting his reputation etc, but he earned that right. I also think he has been very clever in not jumping at any old job. Location is important to him as he is settled in Essex (I believe). I know he was very close to the Villa job before Houllier, as my uncle went to a Q&A session with him the night of Houllier's appointment, and he actually said 'he didn't expect to be there'.
I actually think it's one of the sad facts of the game that in management, how often do we see a manager that has built a good reputation, fail at one job, and then drop down the football league ladder. For me, Steve Bruce is a good manager, I found it strange that he had to take the Hull job and drop down into the Championship. Where will David Moyes end up. I mean yes, the Man Utd job was beyond him, but I feel that one season has undone all the good work he did 10 years previous with Everton, and I could see him ending up at West Brom or somewhere like that.......
As Charlton fans we know what he is capable of, but the casual football fan/media outlet are always only ever interested in what Jose Mourinho is saying or what player Harry Redknapp might be after. Any ex-manager outside of that little Premier League bubble is just seen to have a lesser level opinion.