Must be tough having to do Roland's dirty washing for him. So Jose Riga went out of his way to help us out, because of his good relationship with RD. Really! is this how you treat a friend who has gone out of their way to help you out? Sorry Katrien, you're a nice young lady, but we are not stupid. It sounds very much like we are being prepared for another relegation struggle, when we could have been looking forward to a possible playoff spot under Riga.
Better than complete silence, but that's not saying much. Any one here could have written 95% of this given a bit of thought and scanning of CL.
but seriously, what do you expect a corporate lawyer to say? If they have specific concerns about Riga, is it helpful (to him or CAFC) to air these publicly?
We're all more interested in deeds than words in any case, so securing Diego and Morro is what matters most
Wow, so many cynical people on here. I would just like to say thanks to Katrien for updating us all on what has been going on at the club in recent times. Hopefully you will continue to keep the lines of communication with the supporters open. You are right VG, I don't know why they even bother.
Don't know why the club bother really. Some people moan when there is no communication yet when Katrien Meire does issue a statement it is taken apart as some kind of propaganda or saying nothing at all. Not sure what else could realistically be said.
Not sure what people expected. They made a decision and will live or die by it. None of us have any idea if it will work. Most didn't want Riga to go, blimey I didn't want Powell to go but can't think what else they can say. I'm very dubious about some of the decisions but they obviously think they're making the right ones, I do believe that they are honest in that. Glad that they are at least communicating.
"He was a very serious candidate to get the job because he was so successful but, in the meantime, we looked at other alternatives. We looked at all aspects and, with a number of strong candidates, we had a difficult decision to make to choose between them, of course, all decisions come with an element of risk, but we balanced all the pros and cons and, finally, we came to a conclusion that we would go forward with Bob Peeters."
Am I missing something here. This sounds like the job was advertised and a shortlist of candidates drawn up and interviewed. I don't think this actually happened, did it?
Fair play to Katrien for issuing a statement as something is better than nothing and as others have said MS/TJ didn't communicate anything.
I'm in a similar situation at my workplace where one of my tasks is to be an official mouthpiece for a group of people higher up who are not exactly clued up on the realities of the business at ground level....and it's not an easy job.
So it sounds as if Bob has form at taking a group of 'unknowns' and turning them into something solid and relatively successful and that's why he is The Chosen One. Cue a summer of disappointment as our new arrivals are announced.
I don't think the statement per se is the issue - of course any communication is welcome (compared to the last lot).
It's the fact that it wasn't done as a matter of course when Jose left. It just seems so reactive and contrived after Riga's appearance a couple of weeks back on SSN, the social media bleating etc.
But hey, it's their club, they can do what the hell they want, when they want.
"He was a very serious candidate to get the job because he was so successful but, in the meantime, we looked at other alternatives. We looked at all aspects and, with a number of strong candidates, we had a difficult decision to make to choose between them, of course, all decisions come with an element of risk, but we balanced all the pros and cons and, finally, we came to a conclusion that we would go forward with Bob Peeters."
Am I missing something here. This sounds like the job was advertised and a shortlist of candidates drawn up and interviewed. I don't think this actually happened, did it?
they may have approached people directly or via an agent/headhunter. Then there is the network... I'm not too concerned that they didn't put an ad in the Standard... :-)
I'd love to know who the other candidates were. If we believe what we read it was Peeters, Riga, the Belgian U21 coach and maybe Di Canio. I wonder if any British-based candidates were ever seriously considered.
“He faced an extremely difficult job in keeping our club in the Championship, having to do so with a number of our young academy players and, for that, he deserves a lot of praise.”
Surely this would be more accurate if it read "he faced an extremely difficult job in keeping our club in the Championship, having to do so with a number of woefully inept network players that were foisted on him and his predecessor, for that, he deserves a lot of praise. It's a good job that Charlton already had some good young academy players that were actually capable of playing at Championship level".
Or is she implying that we stayed up despite having to field Diego Poyet, Callum Harriot and Jordan Cousins. Very peculiar. Considering that the one indisputable positive after they took over was that there seemed to be a commitment to proper communication with supporters, it's a shame that they've now apparently resorted to only making public statements in response to criticism from supporters.
Wait and see, blah, blah, blah. Already seen enough.
Must be tough having to do Roland's dirty washing for him. So Jose Riga went out of his way to help us out, because of his good relationship with RD. Really! is this how you treat a friend who has gone out of their way to help you out? Sorry Katrien, you're a nice young lady, but we are not stupid. It sounds very much like we are being prepared for another relegation struggle, when we could have been looking forward to a possible playoff spot under Riga.
Hang on, what do you actually want? 'We hired Bob because we feel he's the best man' or 'we hired Riga and not who we felt was the best candidate because he's a mate'? Time will tell if Bob's the right choice but you don't hire a manager just because he's done you a favour
CL: "Hey, hey Charlton, say something, hey... hey say something, we want you to say something"
[Insert Official Club Statement straight from Director of football club explaining the situation in detail]
CL: "Hey, hey Charlton, that's not what we wanted to hear, say something different, hey... hey say something, say we're going to be in the Premier League, say we're going to buy seven world class strikers (..mumbles about going down)"
Thank you for the official statement to the fans, it is appreciated. Onwards and upwards.
Not really sure what the club are supposed to say over why they chose Peeters over Riga. Katrien said " We balanced all the pros and cons and, finally, we came to a conclusion that we would go forward with Bob Peeters". They had reasons for doing that which we are not entitled to know. Disrespectful to Riga if it were to be made public knowledge. It could be purely money for all I know which if true is disappointing but a harsh reality.
Things might well all go horribly wrong but it's just too early to judge that IMHO.
Personally, I just read it as "We considered Jose for the job, but he didn't do as he was told, naughty boy and ultimately, Bob was a cheaper option".................
There is no doubt in my mind that KM reads this board and Facebook.
not sure whether she is one of the ones that reads directly or not (Hi Katrien!), but i have been told by different people that someone is tasked with collating feedback (i was told on a daily basis) and feeding it up the chain. not sure whether that includes the Would Ya's, but it would make for an interesting board meeting.
Firstly, its a welcome release. Its not burying head into sand, but it is giving a level of communication, albeit reactive. However, when you remove unknowns, you then allow yourself to be judged against.
Unless you view 'pros and cons' as 'one being a lot cheaper than the other', then they have made a clear statement that they believe that Riga, despite his performance, popularity and desire for the role, is not as good as Peeters.
They are creating unecessary additional risks with the decision, but ultimately time will tell whether that was the correct decision or not.
Must be tough having to do Roland's dirty washing for him. So Jose Riga went out of his way to help us out, because of his good relationship with RD. Really! is this how you treat a friend who has gone out of their way to help you out? Sorry Katrien, you're a nice young lady, but we are not stupid. It sounds very much like we are being prepared for another relegation struggle, when we could have been looking forward to a possible playoff spot under Riga.
Hang on, what do you actually want? 'We hired Bob because we feel he's the best man' or 'we hired Riga and not who we felt was the best candidate because he's a mate'? Time will tell if Bob's the right choice but you don't hire a manager just because he's done you a favour
Good point.
They think a bloke most of us have never heard of was the best man for the job.
They have taken a risk, but if they have the brains then it was a neccessary risk.
Time will tell, im still going to be skeptical but with the thought that the new bloke better deliver straight away as according to the people that hired him, he will do a better job than Riga.
The aggressive fan/judgmental approach is now fully eligable.
It's a football club, not a democracy, RD and co. are saying they did at least consider JR (no reason for them to lie about that) but went with another option. The board made a decision many fans aren't happy about. That is pretty much how every single club in the country is run the last I knew... or did United fans vote in Moyes then Van Gaal? Did Levy hand out ballot cards around Spurs fans before appointing Timmy Sherwood or Pochettino? I seem to remember the last Charlton manager appointed to near-universal acclaim was f***ing Pardew for god's sake, and look how that ended.
There is no doubt in my mind that KM reads this board and Facebook.
not sure whether she is one of the ones that reads directly or not (Hi Katrien!), but i have been told by different people that someone is tasked with collating feedback (i was told on a daily basis) and feeding it up the chain.
Great news right i want
A heated seat in the winter months please. Protective head wear as the bloke behind cant shout of sing without spraying me in spit. my own space in the loo so i dont have to queue u. my half time beer delivered to my seat
He was a very serious candidate to get the job because he was so successful but, in the meantime, we looked at other alternatives. We looked at all aspects and, with a number of strong candidates, we had a difficult decision to make to choose between them, of course, all decisions come with an element of risk, but we balanced all the pros and cons and, finally, we came to a conclusion that we would go forward with Bob Peeters. It was a very difficult choice and it does not mean that we are not extremely grateful for José’s work at Charlton, just as we were grateful for the work of Chris Powell before him. After weighing up all the information an informed decision was made which, we think, will turn out to be the best thing for the club.”
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So as a very quick translation and without reading the rest of the thread, this says.."Jose wanted the job and we thought about it and also considered some alternatives. At the end of the day however Roland told us we had to take the cheapest option as it was his money we were considering spunking up the wall and the only man prepared to take the job at that price was this Millwall reject with virtually no experience."
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Sorry Katrien, you're a nice young lady, but we are not stupid.
It sounds very much like we are being prepared for another relegation struggle, when we could have been looking forward to a possible playoff spot under Riga.
but seriously, what do you expect a corporate lawyer to say? If they have specific concerns about Riga, is it helpful (to him or CAFC) to air these publicly?
We're all more interested in deeds than words in any case, so securing Diego and Morro is what matters most
Am I missing something here. This sounds like the job was advertised and a shortlist of candidates drawn up and interviewed. I don't think this actually happened, did it?
I'm in a similar situation at my workplace where one of my tasks is to be an official mouthpiece for a group of people higher up who are not exactly clued up on the realities of the business at ground level....and it's not an easy job.
So it sounds as if Bob has form at taking a group of 'unknowns' and turning them into something solid and relatively successful and that's why he is The Chosen One. Cue a summer of disappointment as our new arrivals are announced.
It's the fact that it wasn't done as a matter of course when Jose left. It just seems so reactive and contrived after Riga's appearance a couple of weeks back on SSN, the social media bleating etc.
But hey, it's their club, they can do what the hell they want, when they want.
Or is she implying that we stayed up despite having to field Diego Poyet, Callum Harriot and Jordan Cousins. Very peculiar. Considering that the one indisputable positive after they took over was that there seemed to be a commitment to proper communication with supporters, it's a shame that they've now apparently resorted to only making public statements in response to criticism from supporters.
Wait and see, blah, blah, blah. Already seen enough.
[Insert Official Club Statement straight from Director of football club explaining the situation in detail]
CL: "Hey, hey Charlton, that's not what we wanted to hear, say something different, hey... hey say something, say we're going to be in the Premier League, say we're going to buy seven world class strikers (..mumbles about going down)"
Thank you for the official statement to the fans, it is appreciated. Onwards and upwards.
Things might well all go horribly wrong but it's just too early to judge that IMHO.
I'm going to wait and see what happens.
Firstly, its a welcome release. Its not burying head into sand, but it is giving a level of communication, albeit reactive. However, when you remove unknowns, you then allow yourself to be judged against.
Unless you view 'pros and cons' as 'one being a lot cheaper than the other', then they have made a clear statement that they believe that Riga, despite his performance, popularity and desire for the role, is not as good as Peeters.
They are creating unecessary additional risks with the decision, but ultimately time will tell whether that was the correct decision or not.
They think a bloke most of us have never heard of was the best man for the job.
They have taken a risk, but if they have the brains then it was a neccessary risk.
Time will tell, im still going to be skeptical but with the thought that the new bloke better deliver straight away as according to the people that hired him, he will do a better job than Riga.
The aggressive fan/judgmental approach is now fully eligable.
A heated seat in the winter months please.
Protective head wear as the bloke behind cant shout of sing without spraying me in spit.
my own space in the loo so i dont have to queue u.
my half time beer delivered to my seat
That will do for now ;-)