Just seen this in the beeb, http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27306106 could you ever see charlton with a female manager? By this isn't a "would ya" but she is not hard on the eye.
Why not? There are an increasing number of women involved in senior management of football clubs and companies in general (granted, starting from a very low level) and we have seen from the likes of Jose Mourinho that you do not need to have been any kind of top player to be a successful manager. So I am sure the process will not be quick, but I can only see more women being managers at every level.
CAFC has a proud history of breaking down prejudice barriers, so there is every reason to think that we would be one of the first.
The problem I see with it,which I have seen at a lot of levels at football and rugby is something similar to the Les Reed situation.You can be a highly qualified coach with all the badges under the sun but I feel you need to have played to a pro standard to grasp the finer point of the dark arts involved. In my youth rugby coaching days I came up against a decent side coached by a woman.They were straight out the text book caused a few problems until wily old eyes with 30 years of playing experience spotted what needed to be done and game over.I see it with my youngests football team where someones Mum is coaching them and its the same,trying to play off the coaching manual. On a Charlton front I wouldn't really care if our Gaffer was green and yellow and turned up in his/her space ship as long as we were doing well!!
The problem I see with it,which I have seen at a lot of levels at football and rugby is something similar to the Les Reed situation.You can be a highly qualified coach with all the badges under the sun but I feel you need to have played to a pro standard to grasp the finer point of the dark arts involved. In my youth rugby coaching days I came up against a decent side coached by a woman.They were straight out the text book caused a few problems until wily old eyes with 30 years of playing experience spotted what needed to be done and game over.I see it with my youngests football team where someones Mum is coaching them and its the same,trying to play off the coaching manual. On a Charlton front I wouldn't really care if our Gaffer was green and yellow and turned up in his/her space ship as long as we were doing well!!
Might be better at kids level to have Mums teaching from the manual than to have competitive Dads shouting to lump it up to the big fella in terms of player development.
Apologies to our female posters if they take offence at this comment dont deliberately intend it to...
Part of me wonders if she always planned on taking the job for this long and that she's now going to come out with some story saying that the state of Men's Football is that its sexist and that no woman can take a top job because of that reason.
Am probably wrong (and am 99% sure I am) and its some other reason but I really hope its not that
The problem I see with it,which I have seen at a lot of levels at football and rugby is something similar to the Les Reed situation.You can be a highly qualified coach with all the badges under the sun but I feel you need to have played to a pro standard to grasp the finer point of the dark arts involved. In my youth rugby coaching days I came up against a decent side coached by a woman.They were straight out the text book caused a few problems until wily old eyes with 30 years of playing experience spotted what needed to be done and game over.I see it with my youngests football team where someones Mum is coaching them and its the same,trying to play off the coaching manual. On a Charlton front I wouldn't really care if our Gaffer was green and yellow and turned up in his/her space ship as long as we were doing well!!
Might be better at kids level to have Mums teaching from the manual than to have competitive Dads shouting to lump it up to the big fella in terms of player development.
The problem I see with it,which I have seen at a lot of levels at football and rugby is something similar to the Les Reed situation.You can be a highly qualified coach with all the badges under the sun but I feel you need to have played to a pro standard to grasp the finer point of the dark arts involved...
I think there might be something in what you say, but for different reasons though. I'm not actually convinced that there's that many finer points in football that ex-players know and that others don't. You could watch a seasons worth of Match of the Day analysis and learn next to nothing. All the things that they talk about have been said over and over again ad nauseam. The key difference between professional footballers and amateurs or non-players is not what they know but how they play. They are quicker in thought and action, they have better ball control, they can see more options, they are more confident in their own ability and (while they are playing, at least) they are physically fitter. This isn't because they know more stuff, it's partly down to innate ability and partly down to relentless practicing of the necessary skills at an early age.
I do agree with you that there could be a problem for women in the game and I think you are right to link it to the problems that Les Reed faced. For me though the issue is not with their level of knowledge, but with others' (chiefly footballers) perception of their likely abilities. It's not that they are lacking in the finer points of the dark arts, but they have less credibility within the coven because they haven't been seen practicing them in public.
Anyway, good luck to Helena. I hope she does well.
As womens football continues to increase in popularity I am sure there will be a rise in female managers. Look at people like Hope Powell, Casey Stoney, Kelly Smith and Aluko. They are very experienced female football players who will be looking for a new challenge when their playing careers are over and I'm sure there will be opportunities for them at lower level football as managers to start with, as they will probably be cheap to hire and want experience. It will only take a couple of them to have a few good seasons with a lower league club before they start moving up the leagues. Good luck to them. If we had a female manager who could get us promoted to the premier league I couldn't care less! These women are not naïve. They know full well they will come in for some serious stick.
As womens football continues to increase in popularity I am sure there will be a rise in female managers. Look at people like Hope Powell, Casey Stoney, Kelly Smith and Aluko. They are very experienced female football players who will be looking for a new challenge when their playing careers are over and I'm sure there will be opportunities for them at lower level football as managers to start with, as they will probably be cheap to hire and want experience. It will only take a couple of them to have a few good seasons with a lower league club before they start moving up the leagues. Good luck to them. If we had a female manager who could get us promoted to the premier league I couldn't care less! These women are not naïve. They know full well they will come in for some serious stick.
The problem I see with it,which I have seen at a lot of levels at football and rugby is something similar to the Les Reed situation.You can be a highly qualified coach with all the badges under the sun but I feel you need to have played to a pro standard to grasp the finer point of the dark arts involved.
Parreira and Queiroz immediately spring to mind as exceptions. I'm sure there are plenty more
The problem I see with it,which I have seen at a lot of levels at football and rugby is something similar to the Les Reed situation.You can be a highly qualified coach with all the badges under the sun but I feel you need to have played to a pro standard to grasp the finer point of the dark arts involved.
Parreira and Queiroz immediately spring to mind as exceptions. I'm sure there are plenty more
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CAFC has a proud history of breaking down prejudice barriers, so there is every reason to think that we would be one of the first.
do we know if she has a dislike for a team in New Cross?
In my youth rugby coaching days I came up against a decent side coached by a woman.They were straight out the text book caused a few problems until wily old eyes with 30 years of playing experience spotted what needed to be done and game over.I see it with my youngests football team where someones Mum is coaching them and its the same,trying to play off the coaching manual.
On a Charlton front I wouldn't really care if our Gaffer was green and yellow and turned up in his/her space ship as long as we were doing well!!
Part of me wonders if she always planned on taking the job for this long and that she's now going to come out with some story saying that the state of Men's Football is that its sexist and that no woman can take a top job because of that reason.
Am probably wrong (and am 99% sure I am) and its some other reason but I really hope its not that
She contacted the chairman and he basically ignored her, so she walked because she felt she had no power at all within the club.
She's fighting centuries of evolution with men switching off when women start nagging.
I do agree with you that there could be a problem for women in the game and I think you are right to link it to the problems that Les Reed faced. For me though the issue is not with their level of knowledge, but with others' (chiefly footballers) perception of their likely abilities. It's not that they are lacking in the finer points of the dark arts, but they have less credibility within the coven because they haven't been seen practicing them in public.
Anyway, good luck to Helena. I hope she does well.