Please could it be noted that any statement emanating from East Kent Addicks does not necessarily reflect the views of supporters who live in East Kent . Thank you.
Please could it be noted that any statement emanating from East Kent Addicks does not necessarily reflect the views of supporters who live in East Kent . Thank you.
Yawn.
Any reason for your constant snipes at our well supported supporters' group, of which you attended two meetings?
Yes Ross, as I understood it, the amalgamation of the two branches would mean that 'we' would have some representation on the new committee. That does not appear to have happened. Therefore if you would revert to your former title, I feel that would be more honest. You guys deserve credit for getting things going, of that there is no doubt. Just my view, however, you do not necessarily represent EK. please carry on yawning. P.S. Sorry my hubby had a heart attack!
We have taken the name of East Kent Addicks as we are open for anyone from the East of Kent to join and attend our meetings. Until the point that a new group starts in the Canterbury area or beyond, why can we not use this name? Otherwise, the supporters in the areas of Canterbury, Thanet, Deal etc have no representation on the Fans Forum, nor a supporters group to join and go to meetings.
We are looking to do a meeting in the Canterbury area next season, allowing those further afield to attend. However, we are based in Ashford due to the core of our members and our committee as this is where Ashford and Shepway Addicks originates from. When someone wants to start a new supporters group in the areas mentioned above then yes, we will relinquish the name and revert to Ashford and Shepway Addicks. But until then we will remain as East Kent Addicks.
Your views on East Kent Addicks have been made and respected, but please do not try and make a dig at us at every opportunity. We have a thriving membership, and we hold many successful meetings and dinners each season and will continue to do so.
Anyway, let us not hijack this thread any longer. Apologies.
Pitch Update The pitch will be renewed completely and will have the capacity for under-soil heating. Preparation work will take place over the next five weeks, the construction period is eight weeks and there is then a growing phase.
The capacity for under-soil heating? Does that mean no under-soil heating to start with but the scope to install it without too much fuss if we get promoted?
Fans Forum Email Address There is now a general fans forum email address - cafcfansforum@talktalk.net. Some emails have been received, especially after Chris Powell's departure.
Still awaiting a response from the club to my email regarding the removal of Chris Powell.
@MrLargo It could mean that the piping is installed so it does not have to be dug up at a later date but full utilisation will not be implemented .. just a guess.
@MrLargo It could mean that the piping is installed so it does not have to be dug up at a later date but full utilisation will not be implemented .. just a guess.
That appears to be the case as was reported in SLP last week.
That the views of the G21 did not necessarily reflect the views of East Kent Addicks.
...Nor mine but I'm not represented. I hope you don't mind if I hijack the views of East Kent Addicks even though I live in NW London as I feel left out not belonging to a group. ;o)
"The stadium Safety Certificate dictates that to get people out of Crossbars and into their seats so they must leave by 14:30. Therefore, Crossbars can only be marketed to those who hold tickets in the north stand."
Why ? Can anyone explain this ?
If you exit into Harvey Gardens, the East Stand Entrance is less than 30 seconds away.
The West Stand entrance is a maximum of 5 mins away.
You could exit any pub in Charlton by 2.30 & be in your seat by 3.00.
@MrLargo It could mean that the piping is installed so it does not have to be dug up at a later date but full utilisation will not be implemented .. just a guess.
Cheers, that makes sense. I had no idea it was so expensive to run, presumed that the upfront installation costs were the main reason we hadn't installed it previously.
We have taken the name of East Kent Addicks as we are open for anyone from the East of Kent to join and attend our meetings. Until the point that a new group starts in the Canterbury area or beyond, why can we not use this name? Otherwise, the supporters in the areas of Canterbury, Thanet, Deal etc have no representation on the Fans Forum, nor a supporters group to join and go to meetings.
We are looking to do a meeting in the Canterbury area next season, allowing those further afield to attend. However, we are based in Ashford due to the core of our members and our committee as this is where Ashford and Shepway Addicks originates from. When someone wants to start a new supporters group in the areas mentioned above then yes, we will relinquish the name and revert to Ashford and Shepway Addicks. But until then we will remain as East Kent Addicks.
Your views on East Kent Addicks have been made and respected, but please do not try and make a dig at us at every opportunity. We have a thriving membership, and we hold many successful meetings and dinners each season and will continue to do so.
Anyway, let us not hijack this thread any longer. Apologies.
"The stadium Safety Certificate dictates that to get people out of Crossbars and into their seats so they must leave by 14:30. Therefore, Crossbars can only be marketed to those who hold tickets in the north stand."
Why ? Can anyone explain this ?
If you exit into Harvey Gardens, the East Stand Entrance is less than 30 seconds away.
The West Stand entrance is a maximum of 5 mins away.
You could exit any pub in Charlton by 2.30 & be in your seat by 3.00.
I will ask the question at the next Safety Advisory Group Meeting later this month.
I'm just relieved Slater remembered to leave Roland or Katrien the key to the room he locked the Ashford Addicks in after his meeting with them before he left.
Thanks for posting the minutes up, interesting reading when your based so far away...every little piece of info helps. Do we no longer have any overseas representation on the FF?
Thanks for posting the minutes up, interesting reading when your based so far away...every little piece of info helps. Do we no longer have any overseas representation on the FF?
Since the group was "re-formed" there has never been any reference to an overseas member , Tel.
TBH, not sure how this would work or whether it's required ( don't mean to be dismissive of our overseas supporters)
The 2.30 restriction on Crossbars has applied since it was built (from recollection the council originally wanted 2.15/2.20) and has always been seen as a problem. I would think the club means that by restricting access to fans in the upper north stand it can potentially get it put back to the same arrangement as, for example, the Millennium. That would make more sense.
The Fans Forum have now received additional clarification from Ben Kensell and Mick Everett in relation to Crossbars as follows:-
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Effectively the challenge is all to do with escape routes and emergency evacuations which all have to be calculated on maximum seating capacities and are directly linked to the stadium safety certificate. It is also about when fans are in the building.
For example, if the upper north stand seating area holds 3,500, and we have another 100 people in the north stand lounge whose seats are not in the north upper, we are over capacity in terms of means of escape, as all supporters would have to exit the stadium via the rear of the stand. This would mean that the existing stairwells carrying supporters from the north upper, and then those from Crossbars would be over capacity. Stair widths and exiting routes all have to be calculated in coming to these numbers.
Hence why fans are requested to leave Crossbars at 2.30pm to ensure that when the upper tier fans come in we are not over capacity however for next season we would never be over capacity as they are coming from the same area where they sit hence they can stay until 3.00pm.
Thanks for that. The notes are not minutes & that's where I misunderstood. So my apologies.
The benefits of selling Crossbars to Upper North only is now understood.
It enables fans to stay there until kick off & also go back in at half time.
I don't think this entire scenario was ever fully explained (it may have been).
If people making decisions, explained the reasons why, they would most likely get less dissenters.
In the end, however, the reason why the fans from other stands were in Crossbars in the first place is that even in the Premier League there was inadequate demand from the fans in the upper north to sell it viably as a lounge.
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Any reason for your constant snipes at our well supported supporters' group, of which you attended two meetings?
We have taken the name of East Kent Addicks as we are open for anyone from the East of Kent to join and attend our meetings. Until the point that a new group starts in the Canterbury area or beyond, why can we not use this name? Otherwise, the supporters in the areas of Canterbury, Thanet, Deal etc have no representation on the Fans Forum, nor a supporters group to join and go to meetings.
We are looking to do a meeting in the Canterbury area next season, allowing those further afield to attend. However, we are based in Ashford due to the core of our members and our committee as this is where Ashford and Shepway Addicks originates from. When someone wants to start a new supporters group in the areas mentioned above then yes, we will relinquish the name and revert to Ashford and Shepway Addicks. But until then we will remain as East Kent Addicks.
Your views on East Kent Addicks have been made and respected, but please do not try and make a dig at us at every opportunity. We have a thriving membership, and we hold many successful meetings and dinners each season and will continue to do so.
Anyway, let us not hijack this thread any longer. Apologies.
The pitch will be renewed completely and will have the capacity for under-soil heating. Preparation work will take place over the next five weeks, the construction period is eight weeks and there is then a growing phase.
The capacity for under-soil heating? Does that mean no under-soil heating to start with but the scope to install it without too much fuss if we get promoted?
Fans Forum Email Address
There is now a general fans forum email address - cafcfansforum@talktalk.net. Some emails have been received, especially after Chris Powell's departure.
Still awaiting a response from the club to my email regarding the removal of Chris Powell.
Why ? Can anyone explain this ?
If you exit into Harvey Gardens, the East Stand Entrance is less than 30 seconds away.
The West Stand entrance is a maximum of 5 mins away.
You could exit any pub in Charlton by 2.30 & be in your seat by 3.00.
I imagine the crossbars thing is because they can't have people exiting the North against the tide of people coming in.
Obviously they cannot get back to the Bar for half time and the club now want to maximise its use.
Perhaps, they did, but it's not reflected in the minutes.
I've emailed the fans forum & they've said they can't comment & have forwarded it to Ben Kensell.
I'll update, if I get a reply.
:-)
TBH, not sure how this would work or whether it's required ( don't mean to be dismissive of our overseas supporters)
Nigel FarrageEast Kent Addicks regarding overseas representation:-)
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Effectively the challenge is all to do with escape routes and emergency evacuations which all have to be calculated on maximum seating capacities and are directly linked to the stadium safety certificate. It is also about when fans are in the building.
For example, if the upper north stand seating area holds 3,500, and we have another 100 people in the north stand lounge whose seats are not in the north upper, we are over capacity in terms of means of escape, as all supporters would have to exit the stadium via the rear of the stand. This would mean that the existing stairwells carrying supporters from the north upper, and then those from Crossbars would be over capacity. Stair widths and exiting routes all have to be calculated in coming to these numbers.
Hence why fans are requested to leave Crossbars at 2.30pm to ensure that when the upper tier fans come in we are not over capacity however for next season we would never be over capacity as they are coming from the same area where they sit hence they can stay until 3.00pm.
UNQUOTE
The benefits of selling Crossbars to Upper North only is now understood.
It enables fans to stay there until kick off & also go back in at half time.
I don't think this entire scenario was ever fully explained (it may have been).
If people making decisions, explained the reasons why, they would most likely get less dissenters.