Thanks for posting. The last couple of lines in the SL article are so true:
"He'll be back. Count on it. But Charlton have lost a manager that cared for the club. Someone who understood the history. Those kind of bosses don't come along very often. And that's without mentioning that he is also one of football's true gentleman. For what he has done for the Addicks, he deserves so much better".
The article by Richard Cawley puts the situation into clear perspective - Powell was a manager who was being asked to operate on an increasingly tight budget whilst rivals were pumping more and more money into their teams and in the end reality will bite hard.
I don't doubt that Powell made mistakes in tactics and selection but I would be pretty sure that over the next 16 games (or whatever we have left) that JR will struggle to produce a significantly improved performance over what Powell did - unless we bring in two new goal scoring and making players, a striker and wide right player.
Just think back to when Parkinson got the sack - in very similar circumstances to Powell with a new owner involved - did we see a huge turnaround from Powell's team in the second half of the season? Er, no! After four bright - but pretty lucky - wins we went down the table like Danielle Lloyd's knickers in a nightclub and the same problems that were evident under Parkinson soon became apparent under Powell.
I don't doubt for a second that Parkinson - given the same funding Powell had - would have got us out of League One as well, our squad was very high quality for that division.
In my view managers get far too much credit when things go right and far too much blame when it goes wrong, the bottom line is that managers are only as good as the players at their disposal and right now we are desperately short of attacking quality, something that was apparent from the start of the season.
I wish RG all the very best of luck for the rest of the season and pray (well as much as an Atheist can pray) that we get enough points to stay up but I just can't see where the goals will come from.
"Other players arrived at the club, on the judgment of Duchatelet. The manager, charged with building a team, knew that if he didn’t pick Thuram for the Cup tie with Sheffield United, then he was out of a job."
Not that it needed confirming, but it's just totally ridiculous that we have lost a manager who like Cawley says cared about the club and its history, because he wouldn't play a goalkeeper the coaching staff had absolutely no faith in. It's sad but I'm glad he's not our manager anymore, he is better off out of it - no self respecting manager would take the CAFC 'Head Coach' job as it is now.
strange that Jose hasn't picked Thuram for either of his games in charge. Can we expect him to be sacked soon? Or Nego? And he dropped Reza Saturday. Took AA off at half time. I'm don't buy this 'Powell was told to play them' line.
I have a thought, I know it's rubbish but I'm going to air it:
could it be that CP was too close to the job, having struggled all season with the many problems forced upon him by Jimenez, he was just worn out and couldn't see a way of improving the team so RD decided to rest him and bring on an old colleague JR to try and see the sea on through. But to cover all his option CP was sacked but will return at the end of the season.
strange that Jose hasn't picked Thuram for either of his games in charge. Can we expect him to be sacked soon? Or Nego? And he dropped Reza Saturday. Took AA off at half time. I'm don't buy this 'Powell was told to play them' line.
If it did happen it was to force CP out. Obvious Jose is playing who he wants.
strange that Jose hasn't picked Thuram for either of his games in charge. Can we expect him to be sacked soon? Or Nego? And he dropped Reza Saturday. Took AA off at half time. I'm don't buy this 'Powell was told to play them' line.
If it did happen it was to force CP out. Obvious Jose is playing who he wants.
This. RD knew that CP wasn't buying into his vision and that he couldn't trust him to do things the way he wanted. He therefore deliberately bought things to a head and a conclusion whilst there was still time left in the season.
strange that Jose hasn't picked Thuram for either of his games in charge. Can we expect him to be sacked soon? Or Nego? And he dropped Reza Saturday. Took AA off at half time. I'm don't buy this 'Powell was told to play them' line.
If it did happen it was to force CP out. Obvious Jose is playing who he wants.
Yea the difference is that Riga is his man. If Powell tells RD that Thuram is naff, that's different to Riga telling him he's naff, in the same way that you trust your friends more than strangers. AA as looked slow in the two games I've seen him - it could be that he's not as fit as we'd like. Reza has looked good to me (bad to others), but he was purchased from outside the network so unlikely to be as much pressure to play him
strange that Jose hasn't picked Thuram for either of his games in charge. Can we expect him to be sacked soon? Or Nego? And he dropped Reza Saturday. Took AA off at half time. I'm don't buy this 'Powell was told to play them' line.
If it did happen it was to force CP out. Obvious Jose is playing who he wants.
This. RD knew that CP wasn't buying into his vision and that he couldn't trust him to do things the way he wanted. He therefore deliberately bought things to a head and a conclusion whilst there was still time left in the season.
Not really buying it to be honest, if RD was so intent of getting rid of Powell, he'd have just sacked him right off the bat, none of this psychological Machiavellian maneuvering. I think he probably did want to keep Powell on... as long as Powell buckled and did things the RD way. Eventually it came to the point where neither would blink, so RD just pulled the trigger and was done with it - having Riga on hand was a bonus but probably not the end game, especially if he really is just here to see the season out.
strange that Jose hasn't picked Thuram for either of his games in charge. Can we expect him to be sacked soon? Or Nego? And he dropped Reza Saturday. Took AA off at half time. I'm don't buy this 'Powell was told to play them' line.
If it did happen it was to force CP out. Obvious Jose is playing who he wants.
Yea the difference is that Riga is his man. If Powell tells RD that Thuram is naff, that's different to Riga telling him he's naff, in the same way that you trust your friends more than strangers. AA as looked slow in the two games I've seen him - it could be that he's not as fit as we'd like. Reza has looked good to me (bad to others), but he was purchased from outside the network so unlikely to be as much pressure to play him
"What Powell wasn't prepared to do was play players that he felt were not better than others he had at his disposal. A prime example was that he refused to select Yohann Thuram-Ulien ahead of his first-choice keeper Ben Hamer.
There was also pressure exerted to start Loic Nego, signed from Ujpest, another club in the Duchatelet fold."
"Powell had next to no funds to work with and did not spend a penny on transfer fees after the team romped to the League One championship."
Not true. We spent approx £300,000 on Lawrie Wilson.
Compare that to the spend of the other teams in the division last season. Cardiff's promotion cost them something like £18m. It sounds fairly obscene, but £300k is next to nothing compared to the big guns spending power
strange that Jose hasn't picked Thuram for either of his games in charge. Can we expect him to be sacked soon? Or Nego? And he dropped Reza Saturday. Took AA off at half time. I'm don't buy this 'Powell was told to play them' line.
If it did happen it was to force CP out. Obvious Jose is playing who he wants.
Yea the difference is that Riga is his man. If Powell tells RD that Thuram is naff, that's different to Riga telling him he's naff, in the same way that you trust your friends more than strangers.
There's probably an element of truth to this. There are a number of reports that Powell was told who to pick, so i don't disbelieve these. RD might have thought Powell was deliberately not picking Thuram/Nego to prove a point to him but if Riga comes in and tells RD 'i've watched this guy in training all week and he is not good enough' then RD will trust him.
strange that Jose hasn't picked Thuram for either of his games in charge. Can we expect him to be sacked soon? Or Nego? And he dropped Reza Saturday. Took AA off at half time. I'm don't buy this 'Powell was told to play them' line.
If it did happen it was to force CP out. Obvious Jose is playing who he wants.
Yea the difference is that Riga is his man. If Powell tells RD that Thuram is naff, that's different to Riga telling him he's naff, in the same way that you trust your friends more than strangers.
There's probably an element of truth to this. There are a number of reports that Powell was told who to pick, so i don't disbelieve these. RD might have thought Powell was deliberately not picking Thuram/Nego to prove a point to him but if Riga comes in and tells RD 'i've watched this guy in training all week and he is not good enough' then RD will trust him.
Which may work to the advantage of the team long-term. If someone like Riga who RD trusts fully explains exactly what he needs and why it seems more likely that RD will be cooperative and provide what's needed - with CP for whatever reason there seemed a mutual antagonism and RD was not inclined to go above and beyond if he could possibly help it.
New owners nearly always want new managers,it's the way of the world, I thought we all wanted a takeover to happen , given the thousands of pages devoted to it.
Unless a rich charlton fan takes over the club we are stuck with who we've got and have to get behind the team.
"Powell had next to no funds to work with and did not spend a penny on transfer fees after the team romped to the League One championship."
Not true. We spent approx £300,000 on Lawrie Wilson.
Compare that to the spend of the other teams in the division last season. Cardiff's promotion cost them something like £18m. It sounds fairly obscene, but £300k is next to nothing compared to the big guns spending power
He/we still did get some players in to strengthen the squad. Wilson as you say cost £300k, Fuller would've been on good wages. Then we also signed Dervite and Kerkar. I appreciate the transfer fees may not have been huge, but that was still more investment than we had for the current season. I had no issue with the team's performance last season. What we needed was to strengthen this season. This is where Powell got hamstrung. We only had Kermorgant as our recognised forward going into the Bournemouth game. Powell had to take Church and Sordell at the last minute.
All of these articles will be supportive of Powell based on his character and his performance as manager (he did a great job). What I don't care for is how quick they are to judge RD and his 'evil plans' for our club. From the offset, he has funded the purchase of our club (no small fee either). He wants to prepare us for FFP,which can only be a good thing, as I think the footballing authorities have talked it up so much, they will have to act next season. In addition, we were running at a loss prior to the takeover, I assume just getting rid of Kermorgant & Stephen's wages won't make a huge difference, and we are still running at a loss. In all likelihood, he's going to have to spend a bit of money on our pitch in the summer. Finally, as much as I thought Powell did a great job, I couldn't see him getting us out of it this season.
I wanted him to, but 6 wins in 30 games will leave any manager vulnerable, even a club legend. The back drop of RD dictating who plays is bad, but then every week we all question who plays, how we line up etc. Obviously RD has the power to influence this, but I think it needed freshening up. As it transpires, Thuram has played neither of Riga's first 2 games, and I think Riga knows Hamer is better. I don't think RD is as evil or sinister as he's being made out to be, and so far I support him and the decisions he has made.
I personally don't even think we needed to "strengthen" in the Summer. Just keeping the same squad rather than cutting Fuller, Haynes etc would have been enough for us to be more than safe.
I know people will say that Haynes and Fuller would get injured a lot, but they're goalscoring records weren't any worse than what the likes of Church have produced playing every game!
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"He'll be back. Count on it. But Charlton have lost a manager that cared for the club. Someone who understood the history. Those kind of bosses don't come along very often.
And that's without mentioning that he is also one of football's true gentleman. For what he has done for the Addicks, he deserves so much better".
I don't doubt that Powell made mistakes in tactics and selection but I would be pretty sure that over the next 16 games (or whatever we have left) that JR will struggle to produce a significantly improved performance over what Powell did - unless we bring in two new goal scoring and making players, a striker and wide right player.
Just think back to when Parkinson got the sack - in very similar circumstances to Powell with a new owner involved - did we see a huge turnaround from Powell's team in the second half of the season? Er, no! After four bright - but pretty lucky - wins we went down the table like Danielle Lloyd's knickers in a nightclub and the same problems that were evident under Parkinson soon became apparent under Powell.
I don't doubt for a second that Parkinson - given the same funding Powell had - would have got us out of League One as well, our squad was very high quality for that division.
In my view managers get far too much credit when things go right and far too much blame when it goes wrong, the bottom line is that managers are only as good as the players at their disposal and right now we are desperately short of attacking quality, something that was apparent from the start of the season.
I wish RG all the very best of luck for the rest of the season and pray (well as much as an Atheist can pray) that we get enough points to stay up but I just can't see where the goals will come from.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2578563/It-stinks-great-club-like-Charlton-eighth-highest-attendance-English-football-history-turned-cheap-dumping-ground-MARTIN-SAMUEL.html
Not that it needed confirming, but it's just totally ridiculous that we have lost a manager who like Cawley says cared about the club and its history, because he wouldn't play a goalkeeper the coaching staff had absolutely no faith in. It's sad but I'm glad he's not our manager anymore, he is better off out of it - no self respecting manager would take the CAFC 'Head Coach' job as it is now.
could it be that CP was too close to the job, having struggled all season with the many problems forced upon him by Jimenez, he was just worn out and couldn't see a way of improving the team so RD decided to rest him and bring on an old colleague JR to try and see the sea on through. But to cover all his option CP was sacked but will return at the end of the season.
yes OK it's rubbish but wishful rubbish!
Not true. We spent approx £300,000 on Lawrie Wilson.
"What Powell wasn't prepared to do was play players that he felt were not better than others he had at his disposal. A prime example was that he refused to select Yohann Thuram-Ulien ahead of his first-choice keeper Ben Hamer.
There was also pressure exerted to start Loic Nego, signed from Ujpest, another club in the Duchatelet fold."
There's probably an element of truth to this. There are a number of reports that Powell was told who to pick, so i don't disbelieve these. RD might have thought Powell was deliberately not picking Thuram/Nego to prove a point to him but if Riga comes in and tells RD 'i've watched this guy in training all week and he is not good enough' then RD will trust him.
Unless a rich charlton fan takes over the club we are stuck with who we've got and have to get behind the team.
All of these articles will be supportive of Powell based on his character and his performance as manager (he did a great job). What I don't care for is how quick they are to judge RD and his 'evil plans' for our club. From the offset, he has funded the purchase of our club (no small fee either). He wants to prepare us for FFP,which can only be a good thing, as I think the footballing authorities have talked it up so much, they will have to act next season. In addition, we were running at a loss prior to the takeover, I assume just getting rid of Kermorgant & Stephen's wages won't make a huge difference, and we are still running at a loss. In all likelihood, he's going to have to spend a bit of money on our pitch in the summer. Finally, as much as I thought Powell did a great job, I couldn't see him getting us out of it this season.
I wanted him to, but 6 wins in 30 games will leave any manager vulnerable, even a club legend. The back drop of RD dictating who plays is bad, but then every week we all question who plays, how we line up etc. Obviously RD has the power to influence this, but I think it needed freshening up. As it transpires, Thuram has played neither of Riga's first 2 games, and I think Riga knows Hamer is better. I don't think RD is as evil or sinister as he's being made out to be, and so far I support him and the decisions he has made.
I know people will say that Haynes and Fuller would get injured a lot, but they're goalscoring records weren't any worse than what the likes of Church have produced playing every game!