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Support for the Belgian Geezer ?

This is a serious question. I have been surprised by what appears to be an acceptance of what our new owner has done, and also appears about to do. Is this because those on here leading the Jiminez and Slater hate brigade realise that things were far from bad and in fact we were better off with the devil we knew? They seem to me to have been very pro SCP and. I wonder if some on here have regrets and are keeping a low profile?
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  • Undefeated under Riga...
  • no acceptance from me
  • Funny that, being as you are one of the irregular posters to suddenly appear regularly after the Dear Leader was overthrown, are you Seth too? Or one of the other obvious candidates. This site has been getting weird. Move on people.
  • I am with RD and SJR unless you come up with the money to buy the club, then I am with you.

    Sounds like a very fair and eminently sensible observation Mr Dowman.

    I can't get arsey with RD as he had done nothing to date to merit rebuke. He is a business man who sees CAFC as a potential sleeping giant that can make him some money if managed properly - essentially a recovery situation. So why would he want to do anything to ruin his investment?

    I will give him the benefit of the doubt and I have a gut feeling that the summer could well see some positive developments for CAFC. But hey what do my guts know - only time will tell!

  • Guilty till proven innocent. If Powell comes out and says, "he's alright Roland, give him your support", i'll follow him no questions asked. But if Powell said, "i'm totally gutted and feel shafted and feel real fear for the club we all love", that i'd have to say Roland has got his work cut out! Success or not. I haven't supported Charlton since 78 just to bask in the glory and turn my back with it's really shit. Owners come and go but supporters don't. Powell is here for life in his heart and still would be if it was up to him and most fans. Much as i thought highly of Curbs, i never cried when he left the club. Powell is a Charlton man and i'm hoping will be back. As for Roland, the jury is still out. Supporting Charlton isn't only about success, it's about supporting a community club with integrity and respect for how it conducts it's business.

    Roland, you need a bloody good defence lawyer if you're going to win over this jury. Lets see what you're made of?
  • I am not really a Roland supporter just yet - but I am definitely not a vociferous critic yet either. I question his methods and timing regarding the axing of Chris Powell, but there is enough evidence that there is a longer term scheme afoot that I am willing to give a bit more time before I decide the Devil is Belgian. I am on the fence frankly, the people insisting he has somehow managed to tear the heart/soul out of the club I think are jumping the gun somewhat - but I am aware of the possibility that he just might do that yet.

    Time will tell, I am watching with interest... and not a little dread.
  • edited March 2014
    Feel pretty ambivalent at the moment - the network idea doesn't grab me & fill me with any enthusiasm whatsoever, yet at the same time it needs to work or we are going to be left with a husk of a club. Not impressed with Riga's credentials - how can he be the right man for this situation, his main qualification seems to be that he is one of Roland's cronies. If Powell had been replaced with an experienced & proven manager at this level - yes I could go along with it more, but this just leaves me cold.

    Will be delighted to be proven wrong of course
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  • edited March 2014
    thenewbie said:

    I am not really a Roland supporter just yet - but I am definitely not a vociferous critic yet either. I question his methods and timing regarding the axing of Chris Powell, but there is enough evidence that there is a longer term scheme afoot that I am willing to give a bit more time before I decide the Devil is Belgian. I am on the fence frankly, the people insisting he has somehow managed to tear the heart/soul out of the club I think are jumping the gun somewhat - but I am aware of the possibility that he just might do that yet.

    Time will tell, I am watching with interest... and not a little dread.

    This

    CharltonLife created a post for car sharing driving to Sheffield.

    There were people posting "I'm driving from Edinburgh / Gloucester / Northampton.... Have 1/2 spaces. Can pick up in XXXX or XXXX".

    And this is what were all about. Were a community. And Chris was/is one of us.

    So It really does still sadden me when I've seen pics in the press of Chris' time in Charlton colours, cos if anyone was going to have success with us I so desperately wanted it to be with him. He is Charlton.

    There are a lot of people who aren't happy with him going, and I get that, but it wasn't working (were bottom) and he didn't buy into the owners view on the longterm strategy and despite accepting the financial part of the contract there were other caveats that he didn't. (I think the new guy was being brought in in a Dir of Football role. Hence why he was in place so quickly and only has a mandate until the end of the season).

    There really was only one path available.

    So we are where we are, right or wrong, but if we don't get behind the team and the club were in very real danger of going down. Whatever RD's longterm plans and whether you think they're genuine or not, this will damage the club and we will lose players we value.

    Let's get behind the new regime, but with a watchful eye.
  • Funny that, being as you are one of the irregular posters to suddenly appear regularly after the Dear Leader was overthrown, are you Seth too? Or one of the other obvious candidates. This site has been getting weird. Move on people.

    I think this is the second time you have aired the notion that I post under different logins.

    The first time I said I didn't but it seems you choose not to believe me.

    I post so much on here it leaves little time to maintain multiple identities.

    When you suggest others are actually me, is that not a bit disrespectful to those posters also?

    Please contact a site administrator who can trace things back and ask them if I have multiple identities on Charlton Life, because you do not seem prepared to take my word for it.

  • And you should take my word because I never lie.

    Oops ....
  • I'm Seth plum too...............
  • I am Seth Plum
  • (I'm not)
  • I'm Spartacus.......
  • I am very rarely wrong when it comes to all things charlton

    Our away support is shite
    RD is using charlton as a toy to support standard leige
    Danny Green is shite
    We should never have sold Yann
    TJ and Slater were actually alright, had the clubs best interests at heart and would never have sacked CP
    Reza is a fooking useless cheat
    Johnnie Jackson is proper Charlton and the only thing connecting the club with fans

    Chrissy Powells red and white army

    Await the flags....
  • this....clearly except the TJ Hooker and Slater part
  • I am very rarely wrong when it comes to all things charlton

    Our away support is shite
    RD is using charlton as a toy to support standard leige
    Danny Green is shite
    We should never have sold Yann
    TJ and Slater were actually alright, had the clubs best interests at heart and would never have sacked CP
    Reza is a fooking useless cheat
    Johnnie Jackson is proper Charlton and the only thing connecting the club with fans

    Chrissy Powells red and white army

    Await the flags....


    @Southendaddick - as a relatively new Charlton supporter, how bad is our away support compared to other teams in the Championship? There's shite and there's proper shite if you know what I mean? I haven't yet made it to an away game (work commitments make getting to the home games challenging enough) so I can't compare with what I see turning up to The Valley.

    No flag from me....... ;-)
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  • Let's have it right.

    If you are prepared to accept the dark arts continually at our club, well good luck to you.

    Doesn't matter if you have been Charlton for 30 years like me or 30 minutes, there are certain ways we should accept to conduct our business.

    We are Charlton.

    The way things have occurred is not the Charlton way.

    Certain standards have to be upheld.

    If you don't understand, or do not accept this, well you clearly haven't been watching.


    Fair point. The way things have been happening recently does leave a sour taste in the mouth. Disconnection from the club some might say...
  • Can't see RD being good for the club in the long term - would love to be proved wrong.
  • Lots of posts. However, appears to be quite a few people staying away from this. My question is genuine and I would love the main anti Slater/Jiminez crowd to share their thoughts.
  • masicat said:

    This is a serious question. I have been surprised by what appears to be an acceptance of what our new owner has done, and also appears about to do. Is this because those on here leading the Jiminez and Slater hate brigade realise that things were far from bad and in fact we were better off with the devil we knew? They seem to me to have been very pro SCP and. I wonder if some on here have regrets and are keeping a low profile?

    I don't think either were/are good for Charlton and all the parties would rip the soul out of the club for a quick buck.
  • Slater and Jiminez kept a lot of their dirty washing hidden away behind the scenes, I reckon. if you just judge on their external actions, then appointing CP, keeping CP, allowing the L1 investment, even arranging the Red Devils etc for the celebration match v Hartlepool, not selling our best players in transfer windows once the Cash had run out, maintaining investment in the Academy etc all showed signs of people acting in the best interests of CAFC (albeit their own too). Clearly there was a lot more to it, though, with the changes in non-footballing staff and who knows what dodgy dealings...so before I get shouted down, I am not supporting them or wishing they were back.

    However, I'm starting to prefer the "silent" approach of the previous regime where we just knew not to expect any comms from the directors. For all the criticism that got at the time, I prefer it to the blatant lies and continual spin we now get from RD and his cronies. We knew not to trust TJ/MS...and just about got away with an intact club on their departure (albeit with contract and pitch issues). The paternal approach of RD backed up by smiley Katrien and increasingly two-faced RM has been much more destructive already IMHO - and that's after just two and a half months. I said I'd judge them on actions, not words. I don't like much of the action I've seen so far, and have rapidly come to the conclusion not to believe any of the words.
  • masicat said:

    Lots of posts. However, appears to be quite a few people staying away from this. My question is genuine and I would love the main anti Slater/Jiminez crowd to share their thoughts.

    ask local businesses, local suppliers to the Club who'd they would prefer be in charge. ask the staff down the Club who they would prefer to be in charge. I can guaranteed you the answer won't be TJ & Co.

  • masicat said:

    Lots of posts. However, appears to be quite a few people staying away from this. My question is genuine and I would love the main anti Slater/Jiminez crowd to share their thoughts.

    ask local businesses, local suppliers to the Club who'd they would prefer be in charge. ask the staff down the Club who they would prefer to be in charge. I can guaranteed you the answer won't be TJ & Co.



    Not sure what that means?
  • masicat said:

    Lots of posts. However, appears to be quite a few people staying away from this. My question is genuine and I would love the main anti Slater/Jiminez crowd to share their thoughts.

    ask local businesses, local suppliers to the Club who'd they would prefer be in charge. ask the staff down the Club who they would prefer to be in charge. I can guaranteed you the answer won't be TJ & Co.

    I'm not sure the local pubs are going to enjoy the drop in numbers the Valley is seeing, and the fact RD is pushing the fact he wants everyone down at the Valley drinking beer to get more money into his coughers.

    Local businesses probably had their best season in a long while in the League One title winning season. The whole place was buzzing
  • masicat said:

    masicat said:

    Lots of posts. However, appears to be quite a few people staying away from this. My question is genuine and I would love the main anti Slater/Jiminez crowd to share their thoughts.

    ask local businesses, local suppliers to the Club who'd they would prefer be in charge. ask the staff down the Club who they would prefer to be in charge. I can guaranteed you the answer won't be TJ & Co.



    Not sure what that means?
    do you not understand English then?

  • vffvff
    edited March 2014
    RD has been somewhat inept IMO. OK he has a plan and why of doing things, and that didn't involve Chris Powell. Most Charlton supporters would have accepted Chris Powell moving on in January and RD bringing in his own caretaker coach. A lot would have preferred Chris to continue but he is a new owner and he wants his own man, so fair enough. RD could have negotiated a fair settlement on the contract, shook hands and everyone would have been happy enough and got on with it.

    But no RD has dealt with Chris Powell in a manner that has upset a good 1/3 to 1/2 of the supporter base so much so that many are considering not renewing the season tickets and seriously questioning RD strategy. The attendance against Hudds was a lot lower than 12,000 and it is a lot easier to lose season ticket holders than regain them. It is just not good business. It also has wasted a couple of months giving a new coach time to do things their way.

    I agree with Weegie Addick - 'I said I'd judge them on actions, not words. I don't like much of the action I've seen so far.' Still open minded and wanting to see whether the ITTV rumoured wonder improvements will arrive. Whether they are improvements at all or over hyped. A decent bit of strengthening would help for the short term. As would some Charlton Championship Charlton goals and points to move Charlton up the table.
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