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Do we have an attacking coach?

AdamAddickAdamAddick
in General Charlton
Had a look on the coaching staff for the first team and we have

Chris Powell - Manager

Alex Dyer - Assistant Manager

Damian Matthew - First Team Coach

Football Adviser - Keith Peacock

Goalkeeping Coach - Ben Roberts

And other various roles of physio's ect

Does anyone know if any of these are just in control of the attacking responsibilities or do they all just chip in and work with the whole team?

If not do you think it might be worth having one? Leaving chris powell work with evina and the defence with what he knows best?

Comments

  • VincentVincent
    Do we have a defensive coach
  • LincsaddickLincsaddick
    this is not American football .. Association football is a game of continuous flow from attack to defence and back and forth .. the manager should decide on tactics and formations .. there is room for a coach/coaches to work on individual skills for attackers but a separate 'policy' for attackers divorced from the approach by the team as a whole just is not viable
  • StrikerFirmaniStrikerFirmani
    You need to have strikers in the squad to make it worth paying out for an attacking coach.
  • AdamAddickAdamAddick
    Lincsaddick said:

    this is not American football .. Association football is a game of continuous flow from attack to defence and back and forth .. the manager should decide on tactics and formations .. there is room for a coach/coaches to work on individual skills for attackers but a separate 'policy' for attackers divorced from the approach by the team as a whole just is not viable

    Yes, but the video posted up the other day, where were the defenders?? It started with powell or the attacker passing the ball out wide? The ball didnt come from the back it just started from an attacking point of view so it is clear to see that they were seperating the attack from the defence with no flow to the play
  • LincsaddickLincsaddick
    AdamAddick said:

    Lincsaddick said:

    this is not American football .. Association football is a game of continuous flow from attack to defence and back and forth .. the manager should decide on tactics and formations .. there is room for a coach/coaches to work on individual skills for attackers but a separate 'policy' for attackers divorced from the approach by the team as a whole just is not viable

    Yes, but the video posted up the other day, where were the defenders?? It started with powell or the attacker passing the ball out wide? The ball didnt come from the back it just started from an attacking point of view so it is clear to see that they were seperating the attack from the defence with no flow to the play
    Take the video with a pinch of salt .. that was propaganda, a fan's introduction to our new strikers showing how great they are both in the air and on the ground .. as I wrote above, attackers are dependant on the other 9 or 10 or 8 teammates, they may learn all the skills, but no service = no goals
  • AdamAddickAdamAddick
    Lincsaddick said:

    AdamAddick said:

    Lincsaddick said:

    this is not American football .. Association football is a game of continuous flow from attack to defence and back and forth .. the manager should decide on tactics and formations .. there is room for a coach/coaches to work on individual skills for attackers but a separate 'policy' for attackers divorced from the approach by the team as a whole just is not viable

    Yes, but the video posted up the other day, where were the defenders?? It started with powell or the attacker passing the ball out wide? The ball didnt come from the back it just started from an attacking point of view so it is clear to see that they were seperating the attack from the defence with no flow to the play
    Take the video with a pinch of salt .. that was propaganda, a fan's introduction to our new strikers showing how great they are both in the air and on the ground .. as I wrote above, attackers are dependant on the other 9 or 10 or 8 teammates, they may learn all the skills, but no service = no goals
    So you think powell did that session knowing they were filming?? I doubt that, no service could be helped with an attacking coach? I didnt say a striker coach, just another person that could give some fresh ideas that could help the 'attacking' from CM's Wingers and Strikers
  • scabbyhorsescabbyhorse
    Apparently we do have a coach, Mr Ebdons
  • LincsaddickLincsaddick
    AdamAddick said:

    Lincsaddick said:

    AdamAddick said:

    Lincsaddick said:

    this is not American football .. Association football is a game of continuous flow from attack to defence and back and forth .. the manager should decide on tactics and formations .. there is room for a coach/coaches to work on individual skills for attackers but a separate 'policy' for attackers divorced from the approach by the team as a whole just is not viable

    Yes, but the video posted up the other day, where were the defenders?? It started with powell or the attacker passing the ball out wide? The ball didnt come from the back it just started from an attacking point of view so it is clear to see that they were seperating the attack from the defence with no flow to the play
    Take the video with a pinch of salt .. that was propaganda, a fan's introduction to our new strikers showing how great they are both in the air and on the ground .. as I wrote above, attackers are dependant on the other 9 or 10 or 8 teammates, they may learn all the skills, but no service = no goals
    So you think powell did that session knowing they were filming?? I doubt that, no service could be helped with an attacking coach? I didnt say a striker coach, just another person that could give some fresh ideas that could help the 'attacking' from CM's Wingers and Strikers
    now you've made yourself clearer, an adviser on the best way to effect smooth transition from defence to attack may be good idea as opposed to a just 'striker skills' coach ..BUT.. too many coaches can spoil the broth, however I do not want to get into semantics here .. and if you really think that Powell had no idea that 'the session' was being filmed, I would suggest that you are naïve in the ways of publicity/PR
  • sseaddicksseaddick
    StrikerFirmani said:

    You need to have strikers in the squad to make it worth paying out for an attacking coach.

    We have 4 senior strikers at the club...
  • LincsaddickLincsaddick
    scabbyhorse said:

    Apparently we do have a coach, Mr Ebdons

    not the snooker boreist ?? .. ((:>)
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  • AdamAddickAdamAddick
    Lincsaddick said:

    AdamAddick said:

    Lincsaddick said:

    AdamAddick said:

    Lincsaddick said:

    this is not American football .. Association football is a game of continuous flow from attack to defence and back and forth .. the manager should decide on tactics and formations .. there is room for a coach/coaches to work on individual skills for attackers but a separate 'policy' for attackers divorced from the approach by the team as a whole just is not viable

    Yes, but the video posted up the other day, where were the defenders?? It started with powell or the attacker passing the ball out wide? The ball didnt come from the back it just started from an attacking point of view so it is clear to see that they were seperating the attack from the defence with no flow to the play
    Take the video with a pinch of salt .. that was propaganda, a fan's introduction to our new strikers showing how great they are both in the air and on the ground .. as I wrote above, attackers are dependant on the other 9 or 10 or 8 teammates, they may learn all the skills, but no service = no goals
    So you think powell did that session knowing they were filming?? I doubt that, no service could be helped with an attacking coach? I didnt say a striker coach, just another person that could give some fresh ideas that could help the 'attacking' from CM's Wingers and Strikers
    now you've made yourself clearer, an adviser on the best way to effect smooth transition from defence to attack may be good idea as opposed to a just 'striker skills' coach ..BUT.. too many coaches can spoil the broth, however I do not want to get into semantics here .. and if you really think that Powell had no idea that 'the session' was being filmed, I would suggest that you are naïve in the ways of publicity/PR
    Again you haven't read what i said, i said 'so you think powell did that session knowing they were filming' because you said it was an introduction into our new strikers, meaning that you thought that powell did the session with no defenders so we could see how good at scoring they are. I then responded so you think powell did the session (with no defenders) just because they were filming in order to get some good clips. Id hope that powell would work on sessions that would help the team in a match, not just to show the fans the players can score
  • Off_itOff_it
    DE-FENS!
  • BigAndyCAFCBigAndyCAFC
    Bearing in mind we don't score very often, I don't think we do...my personal opinion is that a lot of our problems stem from Sparrows Lane - I'm seeing nothing different from the first games back in August. I know they are all giving their best but, it clearly isn't working. The squad we have should be up in around 15th and fairly comfortable.
  • StrikerFirmaniStrikerFirmani
    sseaddick said:

    StrikerFirmani said:

    You need to have strikers in the squad to make it worth paying out for an attacking coach.

    We have 4 senior strikers at the club...
    Were they on show Saturday, because I saw a few chances go begging but didn't note anyone looking like a striker.
  • SilentAddickSilentAddick
    Attack is the best form of Defence, Anon.
  • KermorulesKermorules
    Must admit did wonder the same thing about attacking coach!!!
    When you watch them shoot at the goal before the games in the pre-match warm up our players are shocking at shooting. I tend to think that a professional footballer should be able to hit the target when under no pressure!!!
    I agree it does not help that we don't create many chances either.
  • DizzleDizzle
    Jason Euell is on the books as a coach isn't he?
  • AdamAddickAdamAddick
    Dizzle said:

    Jason Euell is on the books as a coach isn't he?

    under 21s
  • Off_itOff_it
    OFF-ENS
  • sseaddicksseaddick
    StrikerFirmani said:

    sseaddick said:

    StrikerFirmani said:

    You need to have strikers in the squad to make it worth paying out for an attacking coach.

    We have 4 senior strikers at the club...
    Were they on show Saturday, because I saw a few chances go begging but didn't note anyone looking like a striker.
    Yes they were, all four of them played as you well know, they may not look like strikers but they still are.

    I think the main problem is we have no imagination, we never try anything different at set plays, subs at half time? Playing players in there correct position. We certainly need some fresh ideas because we don't know what to do when we are near the goal.
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  • GoonerhaterGoonerhater
    was on a coach that got attacked
  • Covered EndCovered End
    Adam I agree with you & was thinking the same myself.

    Church & Sordell haven't made a decent run all season.

    I know the midfied creativity is poor, but this isn't helped by the forwards not making decent runs.

    Can't someone teach Church how to have a shot ?

    I could go on, but yes I agree.

    Powell must know all about defensive qualities, but is he as good on forward qualities.

    Also, with the greatest respect Alex Dyer wasn't exactly Wayne Rooney.
  • StrikerFirmaniStrikerFirmani
    sseaddick said:

    StrikerFirmani said:

    sseaddick said:

    StrikerFirmani said:

    You need to have strikers in the squad to make it worth paying out for an attacking coach.

    We have 4 senior strikers at the club...
    Were they on show Saturday, because I saw a few chances go begging but didn't note anyone looking like a striker.
    Yes they were, all four of them played as you well know, they may not look like strikers but they still are.

    I think the main problem is we have no imagination, we never try anything different at set plays, subs at half time? Playing players in there correct position. We certainly need some fresh ideas because we don't know what to do when we are near the goal.
    In the ideal world having a coach who can teach forward players better technique etc, would be worth while IMO.

    Unfortunately we need players that can cut it up front now. The 4 mentioned I fear would take time we don't have to improve and that's if there capable of improving, before its to late this season . Excluding Peter Pole because we haven't seen him play yet.

    With regard to creative midfield players you have either got a footballing brain or you haven't is my experience.
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