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Hughes vs Dyer

Anyone notice the verbal disagreement between the two at the end of the game. Hughes was more vocal towards the players during the second half using industrial language than the coaching staff was
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  • Perhaps Hughes is angling for the manager's job if/when Powell goes .. we could do worse, especially if RD is intent on spending NIL or as little as possible on any replacements, player or managerial
  • Against Oxford at home in the Cup Hughes was getting very animated on the touchlune and at one point was barking instructions at Wiggins to overlap and get down the wing and Rhoys completely ignored him. Hughes walked over to Dyer and was pointing at Wiggins and down the line and Dyer just shrugged and basically ignored him. If CP were to go and rather Hughes given the reins than Dyer.
  • I said to my mate today that if Powell went then Hughes would make a good option to fill the role. Don't think Dyer adds much if I'm honest and think Paul Hart would be better alongside Powell right now as he would add that experience I think he needs.
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    I said to my mate today that if Powell went then Hughes would make a good option to fill the role. Don't think Dyer adds much if I'm honest and think Paul Hart would be better alongside Powell right now as he would add that experience I think he needs.

    It's the same kind of crap that was banded about concerning Mervyn Day. You don't think Dyer adds much? Based on what exactly? How much time have you spent with the team on the training ground to come to that conclusion? How many hours have you spent in management meetings? How much time have you spent with Dyer? I'm guessing the answer to all of those questions in none. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but if I'm not, please enlighten to me to how you have come to that conclusion?
  • Maybe Hughes's frustration during recent home games is to do with the current incumbents just standing there and not encouraging or criticising
  • Rob62 said:

    I said to my mate today that if Powell went then Hughes would make a good option to fill the role. Don't think Dyer adds much if I'm honest and think Paul Hart would be better alongside Powell right now as he would add that experience I think he needs.

    It's the same kind of crap that was banded about concerning Mervyn Day. You don't think Dyer adds much? Based on what exactly? How much time have you spent with him and the team to come to that conclusion?
    I personally don't think any of them add anything. I think the stuff my girl wanks out of me is more useful than Powell and co.
  • Rob62 said:

    I said to my mate today that if Powell went then Hughes would make a good option to fill the role. Don't think Dyer adds much if I'm honest and think Paul Hart would be better alongside Powell right now as he would add that experience I think he needs.

    It's the same kind of crap that was banded about concerning Mervyn Day. You don't think Dyer adds much? Based on what exactly? How much time have you spent with him and the team to come to that conclusion?
    I personally don't think any of them add anything. I think the stuff my girl wanks out of me is more useful than Powell and co.
    No one likes a tosser
  • Wanks? not a very American term....
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  • I don't confess to knowing anything that goes on at the training ground and I guess neither do you Rob62. I, like everyone else on hear know very little of what actually goes on behind the scenes but I am entitled to express
    my opinion without getting my head bitten off. I am merely just pointing out what I see on a match day and that is very little from Dyer in terms of enthusiasm around what is happening on the pitch. I could be completely wrong and Dyer could be the best coach around. However I don't see it but it doesn't make me right or wrong. Just voicing my opinion which I am entitled to. If you don't like that then that's up to you. For the record I am fully behind Chris Powell, his staff and the team.
  • I think the actions of hughes today on the touchline spoke volumes of the underlying issues within the set up

    I think SCP is an amazing a fantastic man

    I think he has the ability when supported properly to do a sterling job

    I think he makes mistakes

    I think he is struggling to motivate himself and his back room team right now

    I think Hughesy was trying to motivate the team and the mgmt. team into action he done more today to try to affect the game from the touchline that chris powell imo

  • C_A_F_C said:

    Wanks? not a very American term....

    I said to my mate today that if Powell went then Hughes would make a good option to fill the role. Don't think Dyer adds much if I'm honest and think Paul Hart would be better alongside Powell right now as he would add that experience I think he needs.

    It's the same kind of crap that was banded about concerning Mervyn Day. You don't think Dyer adds much? Based on what exactly? How much time have you spent with him and the team to come to that conclusion?
    I personally don't think any of them add anything. I think the stuff my girl wanks out of me is more useful than Powell and co.


    Bye. It's been a pleasure having you join us.

    I think the actions of hughes today on the touchline spoke volumes of the underlying issues within the set up

    I think SCP is an amazing a fantastic man

    I think he has the ability when supported properly to do a sterling job

    I think he makes mistakes

    I think he is struggling to motivate himself and his back room team right now

    I think Hughesy was trying to motivate the team and the mgmt. team into action he done more today to try to affect the game from the touchline that chris powell imo

    I think the actions of hughes today on the touchline spoke volumes of the underlying issues within the set up

    I think SCP is an amazing a fantastic man

    I think he has the ability when supported properly to do a sterling job

    I think he makes mistakes

    I think he is struggling to motivate himself and his back room team right now

    I think Hughesy was trying to motivate the team and the mgmt. team into action he done more today to try to affect the game from the touchline that chris powell imo

    I think you think to much
  • It does annoy me that people seem to equate 'motivation' with 'bollocking'. I'm not suggesting that Hughes would or would not make a decent assistant manager or manager. personally, I think he might - though it won't be for a few years yet. I'm more concerned by the fact that people think shouting makes him a good candidate. If that were the case, maybe we should look at John Sitton if Powell is replaced?

    and you can bring your f*cking dinner...

  • It does annoy me that people seem to equate 'motivation' with 'bollocking'. I'm not suggesting that Hughes would or would not make a decent assistant manager or manager. personally, I think he might - though it won't be for a few years yet. I'm more concerned by the fact that people think shouting makes him a good candidate. If that were the case, maybe we should look at John Sitton if Powell is replaced?

    Funnily enough Sitton applied for a Coaching job with us a few years back and got told by Les Reed that the club could not employ him because of his behaviour in that car-crash "Club for a Fiver" program.

    From what I understand a Sitton is actually a well credentialed coach but that show fucked his career.
  • we needed someone doing something on the side today , as from what I saw no one was willing to stand up and make a difference
  • well if hughesy whats to shout and tell them what to do and how to play its fine by me! coz i what to do the samething!!
  • And just to add the players should also listen to diego poyet coz he knows how to play football!! by the way robert lee's son oliver was playing for brum today
  • Can he please shout at Powell to tell him when to make subs!
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  • I noticed Hughes doing a lot of encouraging, especially to AA every time he done something well he would clap and shout what you'd assume was encouragement.

    I like Hughes and wouldn't mind him being our manager in a few years time
  • It does annoy me that people seem to equate 'motivation' with 'bollocking'. I'm not suggesting that Hughes would or would not make a decent assistant manager or manager. personally, I think he might - though it won't be for a few years yet. I'm more concerned by the fact that people think shouting makes him a good candidate. If that were the case, maybe we should look at John Sitton if Powell is replaced?

    Funnily enough Sitton applied for a Coaching job with us a few years back and got told by Les Reed that the club could not employ him because of his behaviour in that car-crash "Club for a Fiver" program.

    From what I understand a Sitton is actually a well credentialed coach but that show fucked his career.
    Yep...John Sitton's an excellent coach with a very deep tactical knowledge. Since Orient, he's done work for the FA but now, I believe, splits his time between his taxi cab and working for Opta Stats. The Orient job came too soon for him and maybe he's more cut out to coach rather than manage but there is definitely a place for him within football.
  • My one concern would be that Hughes could either accidentally or intentionally create a dressing room rift. If Powell is struggling and Hughes is now trying to essentially take over as motivator, then players could be torn, as Hughes is a pretty charismatic and influential guy by all accounts.

    That said, there is a heck of a lot more to being a decent manager/coach than simply shouting instructions from the sidelines. For all we know, instead of being motivated the players may well be wishing Hughes would f*** off and stop trying to be the footie equivalent of a backseat driver. I doubt this is the case mind you, but it is possible...
  • Simonsen said:

    It does annoy me that people seem to equate 'motivation' with 'bollocking'. I'm not suggesting that Hughes would or would not make a decent assistant manager or manager. personally, I think he might - though it won't be for a few years yet. I'm more concerned by the fact that people think shouting makes him a good candidate. If that were the case, maybe we should look at John Sitton if Powell is replaced?

    Funnily enough Sitton applied for a Coaching job with us a few years back and got told by Les Reed that the club could not employ him because of his behaviour in that car-crash "Club for a Fiver" program.

    From what I understand a Sitton is actually a well credentialed coach but that show fucked his career.
    Yep...John Sitton's an excellent coach with a very deep tactical knowledge. Since Orient, he's done work for the FA but now, I believe, splits his time between his taxi cab and working for Opta Stats. The Orient job came too soon for him and maybe he's more cut out to coach rather than manage but there is definitely a place for him within football.
    Read a bit about him on here yesterday then you tubed club for a fiver. You are spot on.

    Would be really interesting to see the same type of programme now with a warts and all type young manager at the sharp end.
  • Noticed just before the game Hughes giving Poyet encouragement, certainly seemed to work.
  • I did know about Sitton's coaching credentials - just used him as a convenient example. That clip is absolutely hilarious - I just watched it again. "you, ya f###ing big c###, and you ya little c###". He's a really odd looking bloke as well - it's like being offered out by a bullfrog.
  • Good clapping and shouting skills? Make him our new manager now!!!

    Give me a break...
  • Noticed just before the game Hughes giving Poyet encouragement, certainly seemed to work.

    All players welcome encouragement.


    Constructive critiscm is fine in the right place - but like touchline instructions, can be a distraction to players.

    Every player is the first to know when he has fecked up.
    He doesn't need others to tell him.



  • From what I understand a Sitton is actually a well credentialed coach but that show fucked his career.

    It also showed him to be emotionally unstable...
  • Oggy Red said:

    Noticed just before the game Hughes giving Poyet encouragement, certainly seemed to work.

    All players welcome encouragement.


    Constructive critiscm is fine in the right place - but like touchline instructions, can be a distraction to players.

    Every player is the first to know when he has fecked up.
    He doesn't need others to tell him.

    This. I do feel we need a dose of confidence injected into the team. At the moment it doesnt seem to be coming from the manager or coaching staff unfortunately.

    Hughesy is a larger than life character and will perhaps overstep the mark. Wiggins probably didn't listen to hughes because he didnt want to undermine the management.
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