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Were Charlton fans spoilt?

Dazzler21Dazzler21
edited February 2014 in General Charlton
No not in terms of results, classy displays etc but the info we were given directly from the club under the previous regime (before TJ & MS).

I feel that Charlton fans still get more in depth info about the goings on in the club than what any other local club gives, yet we seem to demand immediate answers pretty much all of the time.

I genuinely believe we have been spoilt with the information given under the previous boards and should be grateful for what info does come direct from the club, especially now we have a new, unusual owner who could choose to do a blackout on non standard PR.

The club still seems to offer an inch now and again and we as fans demand a mile.

Less demand more patience with this board please, it's new, it's very different and we need to get to know it properly before trying to demand things.

Do you think we've been spoilt because of how much info we used to be given direct from the club? I'd love to know what other fans think.

Comments

  • AlgarveaddickAlgarveaddick
    Confidential information which could affect the well being of the club has always been just that, confidential. Other than that kind of thing, what is to be gained by not letting supporters know what is going on?
  • boggzyboggzy
    edited February 2014
    Yep, I felt really spoilt by the board before TJ & MS keeping us up to date with their intentions such as "Les Reed will not be going anywhere, he's just signed a new 4-year contract" and "Parkinson will be judged on results".
  • E_cafcE_cafc
    Yes, since 2005-2006 we have been spoilt rotten, I am sure we will all agree on that!
  • BedsaddickBedsaddick
    Your easily pleased Dazzler
  • meldrew66meldrew66
    Turbulent times ahead, despite and because of the takeover. Hold on for the never ending roller-coaster ride that is CAFC.
  • GoonerhaterGoonerhater
    When we had X amount of fans as share holders they couldnt keep to much from us re finances it was in the yearly share holder statement.
  • DMCDMC
    meldrew66 said:

    Turbulent times ahead, despite and because of the takeover. Hold on for the never ending roller-coaster ride that is CAFC.

    I wouldnt want it any other way. Although, I wish we had some more positives at the moment.
  • MrLargoMrLargo
    I think we were spoilt prior to TJ and MS taking over. Didn't agree with every decision that Richard Murray, Roger Alwen, Peter Varney and co made, but I always knew that, even when they got it wrong, each and every one of their decisions was made with the best interests of the club in mind. That has certainly not been the case since they sold the club.
  • Dazzler21Dazzler21
    MrLargo said:

    I think we were spoilt prior to TJ and MS taking over. Didn't agree with every decision that Richard Murray, Roger Alwen, Peter Varney and co made, but I always knew that, even when they got it wrong, each and every one of their decisions was made with the best interests of the club in mind. That has certainly not been the case since they sold the club.

    This is kind of my point. People forget our board went on for years before the premier league relegation yet as shown in this thread memories only seem to reach back that far.
  • MrLargoMrLargo
    Dazzler21 said:

    MrLargo said:

    I think we were spoilt prior to TJ and MS taking over. Didn't agree with every decision that Richard Murray, Roger Alwen, Peter Varney and co made, but I always knew that, even when they got it wrong, each and every one of their decisions was made with the best interests of the club in mind. That has certainly not been the case since they sold the club.

    This is kind of my point. People forget our board went on for years before the premier league relegation yet as shown in this thread memories only seem to reach back that far.
    Agreed. Very harsh to judge them on the post Premier League years, particularly as a lot of the things they get criticised for (such as appointing Parkinson permanently) seemed to be dictated more by a desperate financial situation than poor decision making. I think they deserve great credit just for keeping us out of administration when the money ran out. It's a great injustice that the likes of Palace, Leeds, Leicester and Southampton are all now better of than us despite (or possibly because) they went into administration.
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  • c4fcdenmarkc4fcdenmark
    At least we are not whinging to the level Man United fans are with their perceived God given right to win every match or the Arsenal fans who want Wenger aaaahhht because they made no major signings in the January transfer window (and are currently top of the Prem)...
  • MrLargoMrLargo
    c4fcdenmark said:

    At least we are not whinging to the level Man United fans are with their perceived God given right to win every match or the Arsenal fans who want Wenger aaaahhht because they made no major signings in the January transfer window (and are currently top of the Prem)...

    In defence of Man U, I think it's their Surrey-based armchair fans that are clogging up the phone-ins, the ones that actually go to games seem to be sticking with Moyes so far.

    As for Arsenal, they remind me of some of our fans towards the end of Curbs' reign - convinced there's someone out there who can take them up a level and in for a very nasty surprise when that turns out not to be the case.
  • Kap10Kap10
    I ma not sure we were spoilt but we were handled better and the information flow was mangaed better, whether we got a lot more real information than we have received latterly is debatable.
  • FiiishFiiish
    Think this is largely a side-effect of the fact we used to have a fan on the board and now this is no longer the case, leading the fans and the fans forum at the mercy of the board. Our last owners didn't endear us to the cut off of information, and were quite contemptuous of the fans wanting to actually know what was happening behind the scenes. Therefore it's not unnatural that with new owners fans will voice that they expect to be kept in the loop. The squeaky wheel gets the oil...
  • AmericanAddickAmericanAddick
    edited February 2014
    Charlton were spoiled in the sense that the club had a LONG time in the Premier League, probably longer than the club should have had. That really says a lot about the people who were at the club during the Curbishley era. Remember, after relegation, and even to this day, people talk about getting the club "back to where it belongs". That mentality is bad to have. Of course you want the club to progress and grow, but no team belongs anywhere. You have to have results to back up your desires. This essentially created a feeling among the fans that the club belongs in the higher echelons of English football, despite what the past eight years have shown both on and off the pitch.

    With the current make up, i'd rate the Charlton team and staff as being at worst promotion contenders from League One and at best lower level Championship.
  • FiiishFiiish
    AmericanAddick said:

    Charlton were spoiled in the sense that the club had a LONG time in the Premier League, probably longer than the club should have had. That really says a lot about the people who were at the club during the Curbishley era. Remember, after relegation, and even to this day, people talk about getting the club "back to where it belongs". That mentality is bad to have. Of course you want the club to progress and grow, but no team belongs anywhere. You have to have results to back up your desires. This essentially created a feeling among the fans that the club belongs in the higher echelons of English football, despite what the past eight years have shown both on and off the pitch.

    With the current make up, i'd rate the Charlton team and staff as being at worst promotion contenders from League One and at best lower level Championship.

    Agreed. One thing I hate about fans of clubs like Liverpool and Arsenal is that they have some divine right to win trophies and be in the CL. Listening to a LFC fan moan on and on about their history is like rubbing an industrial cheese-grater against my ears.

    That said, we have a Premier League quality stadium in a prime location and the only things letting us down are our pitch and our low attendances, both home and away, and unfortunately the fairweather fans only come out for Premier League football. It'd be great to have a fanbase like Rangers who still have great attendances even if they're playing Loch Ness XI in the Fried Mars Bar Conference or wherever they are now, but I think Football League fans are more fickle, plus the recession hasn't helped matters - tickets prices aren't great. We have shown we can get 80-90% attendance when we bring ticket prices down, so the fans are there, they just can't afford to be there every week. If we could afford it, it'd be great to have cheap tickets every week as there is no better tonic for a team than having 20k+ fans roaring you on - empty seats don't inspire good performances. Do we deserve to be in the Prem or do we have some right to be there? No, and getting into that mentality that we need to get back where we belong is bad to have - it presumes that we'll just somehow get there and just sit back and wait. We belong where we're good enough to be, and at the moment that's in the relegation zone of the Champ - here's hoping SCP and his new signings can finish this season well, so from that we can build on getting into a position to make an attempt at promotion.
  • Samhall1986Samhall1986
    No! We make Charlton what Charlton is. We follow home and awY and act with decorum and style. We deserve to know what goes on at our club as without us there isn't a club! Something's we don't get involved inhowever if carlsberg did football fans....
  • razilrazil
    edited February 2014
    I say no too, arguably that involvement contributed to the success
  • Kap10Kap10
    Agree we were not spoilt we were where we were on merit. Charlton are naturally a team of the second tier, but through hard work of the board, management and players with the support of the fans we got to a level where we punched above our weight, but we were never spoiled. Spoiled is when yuo are handed something you don't necessarily deserve on a plate, we weren't we worked for it.
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